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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Definitely a good year for pollsters (minus SC), maybe not such a great year for forecasters:
Nah, that would be him losing Washington. Then he is well and truly cooked.
You think so? As someone without a job and without healthcare at the current moment, I guess I have less faith than you do.
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Personally I thought people supported Sanders more than they apparently do. He has a very very vocal minority but I never would have thought his real power was not being a Clinton last time. Both of his supporters fooled me into thinking they were many.
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I am all set, you can fight that fight. I am not going to promote a horrible person like Joe Biden.
There's a reasonable amount of polling putting Biden tied or in the lead, so I wouldn't bet on it going to Bernie.
Let me say a few things about today, and the Biden and sanders campaigns moving forward.
One thing Is 100% clear, this is a total rejection of Bernie tonight, and while this is disappointing for some, it was quite obvious with all the significant endorsements that happened before the 1st Super Tuesday.
Moving forward, I think Bernie has very little hope with his campaign, unless something drastic happens that is unprecedented in the biden campaign.
For people that support Biden, I think it's obviously a good month for him, but I would be extremely weary on this choice moving forward.
I don't have many terrible things to say about biden, his personality, or fanbase, I am Canadian, I do not have a vote, but I do have thoughts who follows American politics frequently for the interest of it.
That being said, In my personal opinion, I think Biden should absolutely 100% stay away from ALL debates with Trump, and focus on positive messages, stay away from aggressive campaigning, battles, and focus on a clear, safe message, why?
Trump Thrives on conflict, In a debate I can honestly truly think that Trump would absolutely crush Biden in every single facet, and it would be a terrible look for Biden.
Trump will have a clear gameplan, make biden slip up, and go after him so hard, rising up his fanbase, Biden needs to stay away period, bite his tongue, and focus on his values.
just my two cents.
One thing Is 100% clear, this is a total rejection of Bernie tonight, and while this is disappointing for some, it was quite obvious with all the significant endorsements that happened before the 1st Super Tuesday.
Moving forward, I think Bernie has very little hope with his campaign, unless something drastic happens that is unprecedented in the biden campaign.
For people that support Biden, I think it's obviously a good month for him, but I would be extremely weary on this choice moving forward.
I don't have many terrible things to say about biden, his personality, or fanbase, I am Canadian, I do not have a vote, but I do have thoughts who follows American politics frequently for the interest of it.
That being said, In my personal opinion, I think Biden should absolutely 100% stay away from ALL debates with Trump, and focus on positive messages, stay away from aggressive campaigning, battles, and focus on a clear, safe message, why?
Trump Thrives on conflict, In a debate I can honestly truly think that Trump would absolutely crush Biden in every single facet, and it would be a terrible look for Biden.
Trump will have a clear gameplan, make biden slip up, and go after him so hard, rising up his fanbase, Biden needs to stay away period, bite his tongue, and focus on his values.
just my two cents.
Nah, because we voted for HIllary uniformly (esp black women) and it wasn't enough because white people wanted their
No, Warren should have run in 2016 in addition to HIllary.
I will never say that a woman shouldn't have run. We don't have enough.
It is wild just how unpopular she is going by comparing these results. She struggled against Sanders back when he had a much smaller national profile and no field to contend with, and all the money in the world whereas Biden is just walking through this thing. Her supporters will never accept it but it's true, she was uniquely unpopular and even then and with the biggest October Surprise ever, she lost by less than 80k votes across three states. Biden will likely win pretty damn big.
This is unfortunately true. On the plus side, Sanders has been so consistent for so long, and so uncompromising that he's uniquely positioned to drag the party to the left by owning and growing the progressive wing.
If he wins Washington the margins in Mich are going to kill him
DNC probably won't let it happen either. Clyburn is already calling for primary cancelations.
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God you're a smug prick.
Hillary would have been great, but to many people HATE her.
yep. Caucuses need to be fully abolished. People should be allowed to make a ranked choice vote then leave in peace.
I don't want Biden to beat Trump. I want Biden to annihilate him. I want him to embarrass him so hard that his grandkids feel it. I want all those stupid fucking racists that voted him into office to know this is not their fucking country.
Dude you need to chill, nothing in that post deserved that response.
I know he won't beat Cindy Hyde Smith, but I hope he makes her and the GOP waste a shit ton of money on a safe seat.
Bernie needs to take Yes for an answer. The Democratic party moved substantively left due to his participation. Progressive goals are now widely popular throughout the party and any Democratic President will work to accomplish them. You won buddy and then some. Now, do everything in your power to bring your voters along and make sure a Democrat wins the Presidency.
Same here. Biden will be better than Trump, but I'm not going to waste energy promoting some corporate stooge.
Sigh. I'm kinda not happy to be honest. Bernie represented something better but America is not ready.
Yes it fucking matters. It shows what's more to come. People are really having a tough time understanding that a primary is incredibly different than a general election. The majority of voters in a general do not have strong party loyalties, they are willing to flip for a variety of reasons. Biden looking feeble and unable to convincingly articulate his thoughts is going to be a massive problem. You're lying to yourself if you think Biden is going to coast to victory and people aren't going to pick up on his shortcomings or question his mental fortitude.
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literally lmao at making this argument at any point after 1992
Lets not forget that Joe also lost his son right before the 2016 campaign got started. A lot of factors came into play in his decision I am sure. But off course, Hillary running was obviously the biggest if not one of the biggest factors.
The way the last two weeks have gone? It could get put in play if Trump just collapses a la Carter.
For those who support progressive causes, the good news is Biden will undoubtedly be a one term president if elected. So we'll have another shot in 4 years.
I'll own that. I've spent the last three elections catching shit for not liking Sanders. It's a good night for me watching him be rejected like this.
Just so we're clear, I am all for M4A and other progressive ideas, but I abhor Bernie Sanders.
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