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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Well, you're welcome to demonstrate a single thing that backs this up aside from the contents of your anal cavity. Turnout is up, his approval and head-to-head numbers are miles ahead of Clinton 2016 at the same time, and
he's got a wiener
I know you're being tongue in cheek but the hysteria preceded the show :p
Frankly I'm coming around more and more to the idea of Biden serving a term to course-correct after four years of Trump and then handing it off to his VP (or someone else) to pursue a bolder agenda without getting stuck on cleanup duty from day one.
Obama came in with big ideas but was constantly hounded to DO SOMETHING about the economic crash (while bad faith critics in the Republican Party hamstrung his ability to DO SOMETHING). While the ACA, Dodd-Frank and stimulus were meaningful, the last two (especially the stimulus) were clearly responses to the recession whereas work on immigration and climate unfortunately (and I think it's fair to blame Democrats for this to some degree for not prioritizing efficiently) fell by the wayside.
Obama came in with big ideas but was constantly hounded to DO SOMETHING about the economic crash (while bad faith critics in the Republican Party hamstrung his ability to DO SOMETHING). While the ACA, Dodd-Frank and stimulus were meaningful, the last two (especially the stimulus) were clearly responses to the recession whereas work on immigration and climate unfortunately (and I think it's fair to blame Democrats for this to some degree for not prioritizing efficiently) fell by the wayside.
I don't consider anyone "progressive" because as I just said, it's a meaningless word. It's not an ideology, it's not a value system, there's no specific political theory behind it, it's not a set of coherent beliefs based around a common moral or ethical standard, it's just "whatever the American Democratic Party currently supports but possibly slightly to the left."
Voter turnout is a great sign for November. States that flipped red in 2016 are back in contention for 2020. There's hope we kick Trump out and get back to sanity.
Or you can look at the numbers we actually have and realize none of this matches up with reality.
Yea her endorsement never meant shit. Hopefully that stupid plot thread is dead now.
Why are you blaming the party? Blame the people voting. Even if they all backed Bernie i don't think it would change anything. Biden is Biden, people know him more than Bernie.
uhhh now they're going to blame her because she didn't endorse him and unify the progressive movement somehow lol, just you watch
Can people please stop posting this bullshit. Dem voting is way up in these primaries.
Ok let me reword then. I consider someone like Warren - who is for pretty regulated capitalism but is on the left of social issues more of an ally than a bog standard tankie who agrees with me in democratizing the workplace but thinks I should be thrown in a gulag for sucking dick.
I'm a Bernie supporter and I don't oppose capitalism on principle. Neither does Bernie, since he points to capitalist countries with strong social safety nets like Denmark as the ideal vision of "socialism". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Please post any data or facts that supports this bullshit stance.
Go on, I'll wait.
It would be interesting to see how well voters take that in 2024, not sure if that has happened in a while
It's a starting point, not the singular dividing line. We start with those who oppose capitalism, then weed out bigots as necessary.
yes this is what I initially thought in my head as well but the actual results aren't backing it up. We are seeing big turnout increases and they are all going to Biden. He got more votes himself in Virginia than Bernie and Hillary got last time
I hope that's the reason. If people think Biden is better on these issues for the reasons you cite, I can understand and that's not an issue. It is an issue if they are aware of both of these candidates and still think Biden's lukewarm approaches to just about everything are actually good. You know, the people who want to defend for-profit insurance parasites because they create "progress." That's the sort of breadcrumb normalization I honestly fear, and I do fear that far too many people are comfortable with that trash in this country. We've already seen one poster say Biden has a good climate plan. Not simply because he has a plan, unlike Trump, but a "good" plan. Unless I'm mistaken, his plans have been far and away the worst of the last seven or so candidates that stayed in this race, and that isn't even to say or proclaim any of the others were as comprehensive as what we likely need. Incrementalism is only seen as "good" when people are not paying attention to the depth of the problem. Targets for 2050 are a genuine fucking joke. Don't kid yourselves.
We'll all learn together, I suppose. It'll take some sort of disaster that highlights things are falling apart faster than predicted for some people to wake up and realize 2050 is an eternity to how fast things are beating predictions and simulations. Climate refugees are going to fuel the far-right populists as well, kicking this can down the road even further...
Kicking problems down the road appears to be Biden's campaign in a nutshell too, so it's not exclusive to climate. Ugh.
Then why did Democrats come out and vote for Biden instead of Bernie?
I supported Bernie, and even donated to his campaign, but he just underperformed with voters. Biden blew all expectations out of the water with voter turnout.
This line of thinking doesn't make any sense.
I think we need to come to terms with that fact that there was nothing that was going to chnage the result. Outside of young people actually participating int he process and getting what they want done. Its a dumb excercize trying to find who to blame. People need to talk about solutions rather than problems. If people point out somehting about Bernies campaign or Bidens campaign or whatever component attributed to the outcome they dont agree with. It should be to learn a lesson and not to cast an accusation. Its absolutely terrifying that the time has long passed since liberal factions viewed each other as allies and not obstacles. If democracy has failed us then somewhere along the line we failed as people.
While I have no issues with you desiring an anal cavity demonstration (hey man, that's your prerogative), It's merely conjecture on my part. It's just how I anticipate this playing out.
Take a breathe. Count to 10. Calm down.
"Unity" is basically "keep it above the belt." It's about asking people not to do things like sharing Trump-team doctored videos. not the expectation that everyone agree on one candidate.
Not at all because this is only after Biden has won ST, these things effect how people think about issues and respond. Her endorsement would have been worth more then thean now, this is a fact.
"Take a breath and calm down", you say after breathlessly regurgitating a take based on absolutely nothing minutes before the polls close.
The last president to deliberately not seek a winnable second term was Calvin Coolidge in 1928.
How do you plan to enact that agenda when there isn't enough electoral support for that and there clearly isn't enough support for an actual revolution.
If Sanders was a Democrat in all but name, he would be a Democrat, which he isn't. Being an Independent and going his own way is a large part of Sanders' brand. It's something that he has benefited from politically. Sanders obviously sees value in labels and has put thought in the way he has chosen to label himself over his life. And that is fine, but he doesn't get to have his cake and eat it too.
And yes, politicians are not our friends, that really isn't a fact that is lost on most voters. But political parties are also about communities helping each other. Neighbors looking out for neighbors. Actual grassroots. Communities band together like this as a hedge against politicians. They are doing it precisely because they know that politicians are powerful people who are not their friends. It's the best way that they can maximize their very small amount of power in a system that is more often than not hostile to them.
No one involved is shooting for perfect here, they just want to support politicians who are willing to do what it takes to convince them that they are there for them. You don't do that with policies or ideas, those things come and go. You do it by showing that you are willing to commit to then in the same way that they have already chosen to commit to each other.
I think do think it is a generational thing and it actually worries me a bit. You see the same thing with younger people not valuing Unions.
That sounds incredibly dangerous to anyone who is a PoC and/or not heterosexual.
But you know all of the voting data we have contradicts what you said, right?
Since at least earlier people were talking about Climate Change, I thought it was best to link to Carbon Briefs article on IPCC report back in late 2018 & Q&A that alot of the basis for most of the candidates climate plans by the Dem candidates are based around:
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Here is a paper written a while ago about ways to get to zero carbon emissions:
Some people on Twitter worth following for climate (mostly focusing on various climate scientist):
@RARohde , @past_is_future , @AndrewDessler , @leahstokes , @triofrancos , @themadstone (she linked an article that I think is pretty good looking into alternate means of making cement), @DrKateMarvel , @coxypm , @richardabetts , @Peters_Glen , @airscottdenning , @CColose , @ClimateOfGavin , @JustinHGillis, @coralsncaves , @piersforster , @MichaelEMann , @JesseJenkins , @ramez , @laurimyllyvirta (really great source about China & sometimes the occasionally India), @DrSimEvans , @hausfath , @wang_seaver , @KHayhoe
Sorry if I bothered anyone.
In-depth Q&A: The IPCC’s special report on climate change at 1.5C - Carbon Brief
Earlier today in South Korea, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) published its long-awaited special report on 1.5C.
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Here is a paper written a while ago about ways to get to zero carbon emissions:
Some people on Twitter worth following for climate (mostly focusing on various climate scientist):
@RARohde , @past_is_future , @AndrewDessler , @leahstokes , @triofrancos , @themadstone (she linked an article that I think is pretty good looking into alternate means of making cement), @DrKateMarvel , @coxypm , @richardabetts , @Peters_Glen , @airscottdenning , @CColose , @ClimateOfGavin , @JustinHGillis, @coralsncaves , @piersforster , @MichaelEMann , @JesseJenkins , @ramez , @laurimyllyvirta (really great source about China & sometimes the occasionally India), @DrSimEvans , @hausfath , @wang_seaver , @KHayhoe
Sorry if I bothered anyone.
This take isn't backed by reality. I'd place it firmly within the mindset needed to believe that a candidate whose getting thoroughly destroyed by another candidate is somehow a more viable candidate in a General Election than the latter.
There's a disadvantage in sacrificing incumbency, but perhaps an advantage in avoiding the third term curse. 2024 would become potentially tougher at the expense of 2028 becoming easier, as the VP->Pres can now run on their own incumbency rather than being stuck playing Biden's second fiddle for eight years.
I dunno, maybe some galaxy brain thinking here but we can't keep ping-ponging between parties the way we have, especially if that involves only holding Congress for the first two years and then fucking stalemate for the next ten.
Ma'am, this is a ResetERA forum. I wasn't aware opinions and conjecture were well beyond the boundaries of law here. Forgive my blasphemous opinion.
So you're just deliberately ignoring all the data and facts that contradicts your pessimism? Isn't that something we constantly shit on Republicans for doing?
dont really care if 5 years ago was better or worse, I don't want to go back in time. Trump did the "lets go back to the old times" shit in 2016. Democrats should
Yeah, I'm disappointed too. He didn't learn anything from 2016. You'd think after losing in 2016 he would go back to the drawing board and see what he did wrong.
Don't worry, I'm blaming them too.
So, disregard the contents of your post, as you aren't responsible for their contents. Good to know. See also: Pulling it wholesale out of your own ass.
Which is insane because the core premise of that show was that they did everything wrong, intentionally, using a flawed reactor design that no other countries used, and then through human ingenuity and sacrifice overcame a terrible situation.
Lol at people worried about the primary taking too long. The primary is where you sharpen your teeth for the general election. Also not surprised at people suddenly throwing Sanders under the bus. If Biden loses to Trump we,ll get to hear all about how Sanders was the reason why, just like the last election. Democrats love eating their own.
"Its just my opinion!" Is also how the alt-right justify their delusional crap, so well done there.
That's correct. Favoring an assumption over data here. Yes.
Hillary also beat Bernie soundly during the primaries. Trump was considered a laughing stock and there was no way people were going to unite behind him until they did.
She still lost to Trump.
Primaries are not indicative of how a general election is going to go. For everyone saying that voter turnout in the primary somehow means they'll turn out for the general: You are making a bad assumption.
I think it just ramped up, well at least in social media lol
I mean, if I wanted to read baseless conjecture that contradicts all of observable reality and also probably the laws of physics, I'd just check a next-gen speculation thread
On the other hand..in places like Michigan, Hillary weakness in the primary ended up very predictive of her issues in the general.
The best current example of this happening is with how Sanders supporters think Warren is hurting them despite all evidence to the contrary.
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