I am extremely liberal, for single payer, and voted Biden in MI. So yep.
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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Please tell me this isn't a "we shouldn't rush into anything" criticism of nuclear power. It's been around since World War II.
The argument you are advocating is "America is too incompetent to do this correctly." Shouldn't we just hire people that are competent so we don't have a repeat of something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site ?
He only changed his "plan"(basically plagiarized) from a D- to B after Greenpeace criticized him.
This is a campaign promise.
Context:
Joe Biden’s Sketchy Climate Record
His attempt to take undeserved credit for the Paris Agreement only scratches the surface of his questionable decisions as vice president.
newrepublic.com
I've seen plenty of older well off white people living on the coast express the same sentiment.
In your specific situation the Dem label is just one component of many as to why someone might not support Sanders. There are plenty of people who are not in that situation who think the same way.
I'd also add that Dem primary voters are typically the most well informed voters. I think most of these people are well aware of the Dem's shortcomings that progressive candidates like Sanders and Warren go after.
Yeah, like the next person definitely has to start there (be it AOC or whoever) because it was Sanders kryptonite twice
Nah, I am a hardcore left progressive. Like I agree with bernie on basically 100% of his policies. Still voted Biden.
They need to ask in these polls if people find M4A feasible. Not just if they support it. I'd be willing to bet a good percentage of those that support M4A also think it's not possible to get it passed.
I think they're plenty serious, there's just a LOT of fearmongering on it.
If you align with Bernie, why vote Biden even though both are polling higher than Trump?
this entire party is completely doomed if biden is really the best. so much for a party that wants to go forward, they'd rather go back to nostalgic past of 5 years ago. great! the "we need to beat trump" is going to kill this party if democrats lose this GE.
In what kind of world is it pragmatic to vote against your ideals?
After 2018 and dem turnout being way up in the primaries so far, I do not think Bernie or Biden will lose in the general. People want Trump the fuck up out of here.
I don't think that's uncommon. Aside from the most diehard Trump supporters I don't think anyone fully agrees with any politician.
Because the primary is over. Biden won. Dragging it any longer hurts us being able to unify quickly and beat Trump.
I voted Bernie for pragmatism. But i dont put msyelf int he Bernie catagory. I think the labeling is stupid anyways. Im a Democrat and will vote for the Democrat mostly because they arent the Republican.
I want to beat the GOP. Primary was 100% over on Super Tuesday. Needlessly dragging it on hurts us.
5 years ago *was* much happier, thank you very much. Since then the economy has improved but the government has become a disgrace.
The median voter doesn't think a political revolution would benefit them, that's why one is not taking place.
Nothing which is why it's so annoying to see many on the left adopt that stance.
Maybe they want the candidate that can best win the general.
I mean good luck because currently no one in the federal government openly opposes capitalism.
Also I disagree on your point anyway. Tankies oppose capitalism and I would not consider them remotely progressive at all.
and specifically, Cuyhoga county ( where cleveland is) has at least 3 confirmed cases
The only three cases in the state I think, but I won't give DeWine any shit for wanting to be proactive here.
That's like saying that Biden is an Uber hardcore progressive because he says that healthcare should be a right but he's out there peddling his terrible more expensive plan while spreading FUD about M4A.
No offence meant but : I've never seen you endorse or advocate for any Sanders policy except as a rethorocal spring board to talk about why it can't be done or shouldn't be attempted.
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Between this and the "what if Warren endorsed" polling, can we stop with the fantasy that Warren dropping and endorsing before ST would've changed the result?
I thought we needed nuclear to bridge the gap to renewables? Surely that is better for the climate than fossil fuels
Maybe this will put an end to the speculation and blaming of Warren.
yep. Nip it in the but immediatly.
and the benefit was
2 came from a cruise ship recently
1 came from some conference.
hopefully no one else got infected
This as a singular dividing line is how you get anti-LGBT, nationalistic and/or authoritarian "allies."
I am for M4A. Not Biden's plan. Warren was my perfect candidate.
It is. Banning nuclear power plants, especially ones already built is anti-science hysteria.
Maybe Progressives will learn from these last two failed campaigns by Bernie and formulate a winning strategy. I'd love for someone further to the left than Biden to win, and as someone who voted for Bernie in California last week, it's disappointing to see that his campaign had almost zero takeaways from his 2016 loss.
Did this poll get posted discussed at all today?
Warren supporters go a little bit to Biden but not in any significant way.
Biden vs. Trump is a sad state of affairs.
Enthusiasm for the Democratic party with JB as the candidate will mark a significant low.
I anticipate he'll underperform Hillary, and we'll have another 4 years of Trump.
That's all folks.
Enthusiasm for the Democratic party with JB as the candidate will mark a significant low.
I anticipate he'll underperform Hillary, and we'll have another 4 years of Trump.
That's all folks.
Why are people obsessed with unity during the primary? If you actually believed in progressive ideals, then the primary is the time for you to display those and vote for them. You can't act like a progressive and then vote against progressive ideals during this time. Especially because each vote means more leverage for the candidates to push a party further left.
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