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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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If it were Bernie you wouldn't be calling him an auto worker, but a fascist who blatantly lied to Bernie's face. We're all hypocrites here.
No, I mean that if saving the planet isn't on the ballot, the people who don't want to die will resort to more desperate measures
You're really reaching for a correlation. Stay off Twitter for a bit and just listen to the questions and answers.
No it's not. It was literal dogwhistle and left out that Biden spoke again later that day for longer. Pretending he's above it while leaning into it is really gross. As someone with mental health issues, it's got to be one of the most offputting things Sanders has done this cycle.
If Sanders shouted down a Trump supporter who was spouting bullshit talking points about guns I'd applaud him.
Rallies are a bad idea right now in this environment anyway. I'd be fine with more interviews or something instead.
Yes, Bernie just happened to know how long Biden's speech was off the top of his head, that's perfectly normal. Actually, not how long his speech was (closer to 10 minutes), but how long his supporters and surrogates were saying Biden's speech was when openly questioning his cognitive ability. Just a mundane answer.
Yeah its almost like voters can make up their own minds when it comes to who they want to vote for.
Agreed. I think endorsements only work if you needed a tie breaker for example.
For a second, put your bias aside and look at the question. It was about Biden's sometimes rambling answers. WTF is wrong with Bernie feeling like he is better at taking the time to talk about his platform vs. Biden who puts less time into talking about his own policy. Biden does ramble on sometimes and give a non-answer. Would you rather Bernie arm chair diagnose Biden's stutter instead?
This is a key point. I don't think many on the left realize how important identity is for democratic voters
Very reasonable. Bernie's attacks on the Dem establishment are counter-productive. Hopefully the next person to carry his torch will learn from Bernie's failures.
the poll makes sense but I also question it somewhat
theoretically, it wouldn't just be an endorsement; it'd be an endorsement followed up with positive, persuasive speeches, a burst of compelling media, perhaps other endorsements as others follow Warren's lead
like, Buttigieg and Klobuchar's endorsements weren't impactful in and of themselves, it was the endorsements in combination with everything else
I happened to come across this video through a commentary on another video. It was purely coincidental. I didn't look at who put the video online. The person who put it online is making strange untruthful videos, but Joe Biden's paedophile behavior has also been confirmed by dozens of sources that are truthful.
This is a better video in my opinion: it shows what kind of strange discussions Joe Biden has with young girls:
Mod Edit: Video has been removed because the source is questionable.
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I'd rather he not lean into it at all. I'd rather he tell his surrogates to stop pushing a dishonest narrative that includes clips edited together by right wing talking heads. I'd rather Sanders debate Biden's policies.
I don't know where or how he got 7 minutes. That's not really the point, but if you want to watch and average his speeches, go for it. Just felt like a generic "He gives short speeches, and I know my stuff, so I give long speeches".
I'd rather the moderators would stop twisting words for policies to bring down Sander's popular policies while giving everyone else a pass.
Oh fuck off.
Just because I'm not excited to bow down and make excuses for Biden every time he goes a gaffe does not mean I'm some delusional dumbfuck Bernie buster. I'm prepared to do what is fucking necessary to keep us all from assured destruction under another 4 years of Trump, including kissing Biden's boot by ultimately voting for him in the general.
But I reserve every right to bitch about it from now until November, and then for four years of a Biden presidency after that. There are legitimate things to criticize Biden on that aren't alt-right propaganda and the fact that he keeps turning away legitimate criticism by claiming everyone who doesn't like his policies is a Trump supporter or a Bernie bro does not exactly fill me with confidence. And no, I don't mean the gun nut who would've never voted Dem in the first place. I mean like the actual Dem voters and protesters criticizing his policies who he has repeatedly dismissed in the smug knowledge that they have no choice but to vote for him.
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But... I was specifically told in this thread that more Warren supporters don't prefer Biden over Bernie!
It's my fundamental problem with Sanders.
I just have a hard time trusting a career politician who jumps in and out of a party when it's convenient.
Bernie spending the last 4 years raging against the establishment didn't gain him new voters or allies, it just made him a lot more enemies. Hopefully the next progressive is all about building more bridges instead of burning them.
What are you talking about? How does that anything to do with what I'm discussing?
It is the point though. It's a specific talking point about how Biden's staff won't let him talk for more than 7 minutes because he is senile. He didn't pull that number out of a hat
Yeah, that was something I was saying. Bernie would not have been helped by Warren dropping after SC as much as people are thinking. Warren's base was a Frankenstein of multiple lanes (Which means she'd do better in a one on one).
Same. Granted, the current media coverage of Biden is some light finger-wagging at the language so the same thing applied to Bernie would be seen as media bias more likely than not.
And hopefully they do the smart thing and label themselves a progressive Dem, rather than a socialist.
Bernie spending the last 4 years raging against the establishment didn't gain him new voters or allies, it just made him a lot more enemies. Hopefully the next progressive is all about building more bridges instead of burning them.
I'd love to hear what you're inferring here. Please continue governor.
Bernie did try to go the policy route. Every moderator made a bunch of shit up, twisted words, or straight up lied to make his policies either evil, impossible, or both.
Yes, dropping the harmful labels (what does calling yourself a socialist even accomplish?) and stopping the anti-establishment/anti-DNC talk sounds like a solid foundation.
Oh I thought you were talking about Era mods and got confused. Yeah I'm not defending them.
That the clyburn endorsement was big for biden in SC and convinced voters, along with the other moderates dropping out and endorsing biden the day before voting.
"Actually endorsements don't matter and voters can't be convinced" is a weird take to float.
There isn't a Clyburn in every single state. Biden smoked Bernie in Virginia and NC so what was it there? While it obviously helped Biden probably still wins the state by a comfortable margin regardless.
They matter but I just don't think they're as big of a deal as folks make it out to be. Just because a candidate asks their supporters to back another candidate doesn't mean it'll happen in the numbers both candidates are hoping for.
There is no such thing as a "better video" titled "Joseph Biden's Pedophiliac Impulses" What the hell is this trash and why are you posting it? You just happened to come across this, really?
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I mean, if he ends up losing every state today or close to it, it might be true!
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