No one in their right mind is advocating for a full on repeal of the second ammendment. In this very video Biden is talking about gun control and an assualt weapons ban. Jesus.
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The one where he says the GOP will block everything Bernie tries to pass? Yes.
That is going to play well with the voters that he needs to get. some of you are really scraping the barrel.
LOL with who?
Biden was buddy-buddy with segregationists. Honorary black man? This is wild shit. The man is part of why it sucked to grow up black in the 90s!
They tried to do that with Clinton in the 90s too, a dude that used slave labor to mind the governor's mansion, but he played the saxophone so he had a pass.
It's not really a secret that the CBC doesn't do a good job of representing black folks. We just don't talk about it a lot.
No, where they say what they claimed would happen under Biden wouldn't happen under Bernie.
I never said Bernie would calm conservatives. Biden's nonaction towards anything means there's a vacuum and less of an aggressive movement to get things done. Hence, he's the greater risk of a neonationalist because he'll lie like Obama did about how everybody is better off.
The difference between them is Sanders will have people trying to tug his policies along when they fail. Biden's more likely to be pointed at as the political disease he's always been when nothing changes. One of these opens more room for the frustrated to fall for a far-right populist.
It is not productive indeed. I'm just dumbfounded that people would argue on the basis of people being hurt and killed that the Republicans are on the same level as ISIS. ISIS who's philosophy is to kill, convert all unbelievers, who were genocidal, who's goals were not only to create a Islamic country in their image, but export and bring about a global religious war to cleanse the world.
And using air quotes to say "What you call 'assault' weapons".
Thats exactly the same as saying they'll calm relative to Biden. Let's not play rhetorical games.
The idea Biden, the boring guy who touts the Democratic Party platform right down the line, will inspire far right populists more than Bernie Sanders is actually laughable. Have you seen how they feel about socialism?
Late to the party here, but this is extremely irresponsible and gross.
yikes, Beto? don't we want to win elections?
Democratic Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware, Biden's home state, lamented on CNN that O'Rourke's stance could haunt Democrats, because "that clip will be played for years at Second Amendment rallies with organizations that try to scare people by saying, 'Democrats are coming for your guns.' "
Choose a line of attack, then. Either Biden's not doing anything on gun control or he's too "radical". I don't think pushing Beto as the gun guy publicly was a good idea electorally.
That only made me respect Beto even more than I already did. He's 100% correct and it sucks that it killed his campaign.
Fuck the 2A.
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I feel like old Black Democrats like Clyburn made it this far by informing for J.Edgar Hoover.
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Happy primary day!
Woke up to see Trump retweeting Jill Stein's conspiracy theories about Biden's cognitive abilities. Now with Sanders playing footsie with the idea in his Fox News town hall and Cenk & Chapo pushing the same angle, it looks like the garbage people Voltron is finally coming together!
Gotta love seeing Trump, Dr. Jill Stein, B. Sanders, Cenk, Fox News and Chapo all coalesce around one idea 👀
Woke up to see Trump retweeting Jill Stein's conspiracy theories about Biden's cognitive abilities. Now with Sanders playing footsie with the idea in his Fox News town hall and Cenk & Chapo pushing the same angle, it looks like the garbage people Voltron is finally coming together!
Gotta love seeing Trump, Dr. Jill Stein, B. Sanders, Cenk, Fox News and Chapo all coalesce around one idea 👀
Take out "Islamic" and replace it with christian and you're describing the republican party to me.
You understand that doesn't in any way refute what I wrote, right? Or are you going to continue arguing in bad faith? You have this habit of changing what the conversation is about to make your original bad post seem more reasonable, but sorry, you claimed the poster was arguing Bernie would "calm" the GOP. Show me that then I'll respond.
Oh cool. Even the poster disagrees with your assertions.
I'm not even agreeing or disagreeing with this, but I hate somebody bad faith posting and twisting another user's words.
the fuck?
People say Bernie is divisive? This is straight Trump tier rhetoric. Conflating Bernie supporters with Trump supporters is political malpractice of the worst kind. Definitely not on par with the reactions McCain (probably won't forget that moment when he shut that crazy old racist down) or Obama have given at rallies when people say or do something controversial.
100%. People voted Trump in cause he was seen as not a politician. A straight talker. (I know he's trash) this is good on Biden. Anyone pissed (gun owners) already wouldn't vote for Biden.
Lmao imagine if Biden wins the presidency and he deflects all criticism with "stfu Bernie Bro" for the next four years.
For real, sharia law is one Ctrl+H away from being the GOP's platform.
that gun nut is a Republican for life and is just picking a fight with a Democratic candidate
Joe knows that that gun nut is a lost cause
Joe knows that that gun nut is a lost cause
Yeah, I can't believe they all think the sky is blue and the earth is round. When will these conspiracy theorists ever learn?
It's probsbly like that one conservative lady on Twitter
Joe's response to gun nut was fine. Some stupidity should not be entertained and I appreciate real talk from politicians.
Im not sure what the problem is here. That poster is arguing Biden will inspire far-right populists but Bernie will not (or will mitigate it...somehow). I've argued against that since the beginning and nothing I've said is disingenuous or in bad faith. Stop using that as an excuse to cover your own misunderstanding.
Republicans being "calmer" under Bernie compared to Biden makes zero sense.
Lol. It's sad that I would consider this prediction fair enough. It's either that or wholesale blaming Bernie supporters if he loses to trump considering the dems are running the same playbook from 2016.
It seems like folks here have very different twitter trends than I do.
Remember the AIDS crisis in the 80s and how the Reagan administration purposefully ignored it, resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths? It shouldn't be dumbfounding to you when you realize that the majority of Republicans wish genocide upon people who aren't white and straight nearly every single day. No one is saying ISIS is good, obviously, but minimizing the damage Republicans have brought upon this country is not worth it.
Yep, Dr. Jill Stein, Fox News and Trump all have excellent records on not pushing disinformation. Fun seeing B. Sanders and his pundits come along for the ride ^_^
The line of attack Trump has settled on is cognitive decline/dementia (hmm that sounds familiar??). Frankly, clips like that help Biden combat that IMO.
People think the angry Sanders supporters are particularly mean pundits, but that's because they don't want to deal with the fact that they're also extremely polite revolutionaries
He doesn't need to win SC outright or even win a majority of Black voters but he should avoid losing by almost 30 pts. The goal is to limit your losses and keep Biden's support at bay.
That would be the point of improved outreach. Clyburn would never have endorsed Bernie but he never bothered to reach out to him in the first place which begs the question who else did he not reach out to? There are a lot of other people in South Carolina and else where he could have engaged. Actually pick up the phone and talk to people even if you're not that kind of guy. Make some trips down to SC. Long term outreach programs headed by staff/volunteers. Run ads not at the last minute. What did he do with all that money he raised?
His campaign manager is talking about talking to CBC members who didn't endorse him. Why now? Biden has build those relationships for a long time and it would be a tall mountain to climb but Sanders had 4 years to also build those relationships.
Also, we can talk about various candidates and how well they do with certain demographics without treating any group like a monolith. Like of course Black voters aren't a monolith but the data don't lie. We spent months talking about how Pete doesn't do well with Black voters. I'm sure it made his supporters defensive but it was still true.
Jim Clyburn put too much gas in Biden's tank with that honorary Black man compliment. Joe's advisors are currently trying to talk him out of making a TV appearance while sporting a durag and the ECW belt.
As I keep reminding people...Bernie is the compromise candidate. They might not like what a real leftist looks like.
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No, you don't get it. If you're not 100% onboard with Biden, you're with Trump. If you criticize Biden, you're with Trump so get the fuck outta here and go vote for Trump.
What's that, you don't like Trump? Well you better get down and suck Joe's dick so we don't get four more years of Trump, loser.
Sanders is not pushing disinformation or attaching himself to conspiracy theories. He specifically refused to comment on Biden's mental health when asked, if you watch the full clip, and said he's not going to engage in that type of rhetoric.
Well, if even the "compromise" candidate can't win, I'm not sure what your veiled threat is accomplishing.
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