It's by no means ideal, but atleast it's not a pirate ship.Biden's team floated potential cabinet picks today and almost all of them are former bankers. So yeah they'll be more competent I guess?
Biden's team floated potential cabinet picks today and almost all of them are former bankers. So yeah they'll be more competent I guess?
The current power structure won't allow it to happen regardless. This primary shows that change can't happen through the system.Some people in this thread are infuriating. How well is your future dream President going to get things done when the Supreme Court is 7-2 for decades?
The idea that Biden's team would float picks to AXIOS, which consists of the worst parts of OG Politico, isn't very credible.
Biden's team floated potential cabinet picks today and almost all of them are former bankers. So yeah they'll be more competent I guess?
The narratives in this thread are really something...
Biden can't beat Trump - even though the polls show otherwise.
Bernie would do better against Trump - even though he's likely to get destroyed within his own party during these primaries.
Biden will get destroyed by Trump in debates - even though Trump is a terrible debater.
Seriously, WTF is going on in this thread?
The current power structure won't allow it to happen regardless. This primary shows that change can't happen through the system.
The idea that Biden's team would float picks to AXIOS, which consists of the worst parts of OG Politico, isn't very credible.
Who the fuck is encouraging progressives to say home. It doesn't apply to me and it CERTAINLY doesn't apply to the poster who started this conversation who outright stated that they are focusing their PROGRESSIVE efforts on local fucking elections.
I don't know which conservative site would be down to hear any of those options.
And how many of them moderate discussions about US politics?Just saw that thread about that video being taken down and if there's anything I find hilarious about this election cycle it's the perception that our staff, made up of incredibly diverse, multinational selection of people, is biased against leftists on the forum. What a knee slapper. I'm not going to get into the political leanings of individual members because that's personal info, but fucking LOL at them acting in bad faith against leftists.
The current power structure won't allow it to happen regardless. This primary shows that change can't happen through the system.
In other words, there is no such thing as Bernie or Bust. It's Bernie or Trump for them.
Bloomberg and Daimon are 100% pirates, just of a smarter kind than Trump and his ilk.
Apologies, based my comment on what I've seen and I haven't seen these polls, I'm curious are they recent?80 to 90 percent of the forum have indicated they would prefer Sanders based on polls in these threads. That's the best data we have.
Two in the last month-ish.Apologies, based my comment on what I've seen and I haven't seen these polls, I'm curious are they recent?
Apologies, based my comment on what I've seen and I haven't seen these polls, I'm curious are they recent?
Agreed, but I have little doubt that Bloomberg will not be among his picks.4 the record i don't have a lot of faith in b*d*n to select good people for his cabinet
4 the record i don't have a lot of faith in b*d*n to select good people for his cabinet
The narratives in this thread are really something...
Biden can't beat Trump - even though the polls show otherwise.
Bernie would do better against Trump - even though he's likely to get destroyed within his own party during these primaries.
Biden will get destroyed by Trump in debates - even though Trump is a terrible debater.
Seriously, WTF is going on in this thread?
When you don't like them reposting alt-right propaganda about Biden, you become the enemy apparentlywhat? this thread has consistently been anti Biden and anti Biden supporters since it was started.
The self defeatist and weakness is something I only see on this forum. Turnout has been way higher for every election including primaries after 2016. Why? Not sure. Maybe some diehard progressives dont want to believe someone like Biden could get high turnout, despite Alabama, Louisiana, Kentucky, 2018, the 2020 primaries, etc.
I think people underestimate what will happen when the media immediately turns on Joe Biden as soon as the primary is over.The self defeatist and weakness is something I only see on this forum. Turnout has been way higher for every election including primaries after 2016. Why? Not sure. Maybe some diehard progressives dont want to believe someone like Biden could get high turnout, despite Alabama, Louisiana, Kentucky, 2018, the 2020 primaries, etc.
I think people underestimate what will happen when the media immediately turns on Joe Biden as soon as the primary is over.
Bernie's team never cracked the code for how to tailor their message to the mainstream left
But maybe the other Joe Biden can pull it off
I don't see how that makes a differenceNot when Bloomber will be bankrolling hundreds of millions and the economy has crashed. Like what?
Hey guy, criticism of your candidate isn't alt-right propagandaWhen you don't like them reposting alt-right propaganda about Biden, you become the enemy apparently
This forum nearly ground to a halt like two or three months ago because of the mod team's questionable treatment of trans folks and related issues. And needed a meeting with the black community like a month ago. It's still fucking stickied lol.
Not when Bloomber will be bankrolling hundreds of millions and the economy has crashed. Like what?
Fake videos from trump supporters, excuse me lolHey guy, criticism of your candidate isn't alt-right propaganda
If that's considered esoteric activist speak, then I have no hope for this country in any capacity.
Fake videos from trump supporters, excuse me lol
people are getting played by them
I think people underestimate what will happen when the media immediately turns on Joe Biden as soon as the primary is over.
2016 was also a referendum on sanity and decency.Yeah if anything they're going to prop Biden up as a return to sanity while the world falls apart.
Quoting for fucking truth.If we were to be rude yet honest, a great deal of this forum is "feel good leftism," so long as it doesn't shake the boat of comfortability. A real "leftist" take is understanding if you're not shook you're not seeing the depth of suffering and injustice that practically breathes around oneself.
This election is quickly turning into 1992/2008 3.0. We're facing down a recession. Trump is historically unpopular with only the economy keeping him barely afloat. Biden is literally generic democrat voting-wise over the course of his career, for better or for worse.I think people underestimate what will happen when the media immediately turns on Joe Biden as soon as the primary is over.
Bernie's team never cracked the code for how to tailor their message to the mainstream left
2016 was also a referendum on sanity and decency.
And again, after the media turns on Biden and plays clips of his more concerning moments 24/7 or refuses to push back against whatever AG Barr has in store for him, who knows how many moderate voters will see him as a return to sanity?
Attacks against Bernie are a lot easier to defend than those against Biden. It's why he was able to do so well despite fighting against the GOP, the Democratic establishment, and the media. Like he blew out Nevada despite Chris Matthews comparing him to Hitler, you know?Weren't a bunch of folks here already complaining about the media being biased against Bernie? What the hell happens if he became the nominee? How does this differentiate Biden or make him less likely to win relative to Bernie?
I have no idea how this point is argued by some with a straight face.
And the mods who locked both of those threads tell us that we should be discussing that video in threads like this one, where *this* is the quality of discourse to be found here.Fake videos from trump supporters, excuse me lol
people are getting played by them
Attacks against Bernie are a lot easier to defend than those against Biden. It's why he was able to do so well despite fighting against the GOP, the Democratic establishment, and the media. Like he blew out Nevada despite Chris Matthews comparing him to Hitler, you know?
How many people, on this very forum, are foolish enough to think the dystopia in America is just rooted in Donald Trump? I fear a too large body of people. That's part of the feel good behavior: thinking if we just get rid of him it ends. Depending on who and how we get rid of him, we may just as likely sow the seeds to see a successor of his come in. In fact, I believe a Biden presidency would do just that, because by aiming to be a time freeze, you don't actually solve or change the conditions and states of affairs that allowed a neonationalist to be normalized; you treat him like a meteor that crash landed onto the planet. This is the whole "return to normal" nonsense in action, because people actually believe this shit. It's not a slogan for the white moderate, to trick them. People think May 2015, a month before Trump went down the golden escalator, is the target to aim for. This was a period of profound misery.
you do realise that these two narratives don't contradict each other right? basically if Bernie can win the primary after already facing heavy media bias against him, then he's clearly already prepared for the coverage he'll get after the primary. Biden hasn't faced anywhere near the level of negative press as Bernie so will face a massive increase once the right start actually giving a shit about him after the primary if he winsWeren't a bunch of folks here already complaining about the media being biased against Bernie? What the hell happens if he became the nominee? How does this differentiate Biden or make him less likely to win relative to Bernie?
I have no idea how this point is argued by some with a straight face.
This is like looking at a wide glass and a tall skinny glass filled to the same height and saying "wow, this is the same amount of water"He's doing so well he's going to get even less delegates than he did in 2016.
What a winner!