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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Nice job camping there all weekend, Sanders. Really saved your ass. Well worth brushing up against nonviability in MS.
It's striking his biggest groups are literally the ones least likely to vote
All we're missing now Is a "you have become what you hate" promo from CM Punk.
He says it was "not intended to be a combat or maneuver role" but that some of his work involved guarding vehicle movements which is just so delightfully ambiguous.
In the future it might pay forecasters to be extra skeptical of campaigns who rely so much on nonvoters to do the thing they don't do.
I think his gender numbers were more even in polling before the bump a month back from 15-20 to 20-35 range.
And campaigns that rely on everyone else not dropping out...
While his result in MI will be disappointing, that's where his Dem base is (rust belt states). It'd be pointless for him to go to the South.
Sanders's support is collapsing among people who would, in theory, benefit the most from his proposals.
I'm not an expert or anything, but that seems to suggest to me that those people simply do not trust him with win the election and/or to actually implement any of those policies. Pretty striking, really.
I'm not an expert or anything, but that seems to suggest to me that those people simply do not trust him with win the election and/or to actually implement any of those policies. Pretty striking, really.
It's likely going to be pointless for him to campaign anywhere soon if the polling holds up.
Bernie having 4 years to try and course-correct in the South and managing to change absolutely nothing about his approach, resulting in the same thing happen again is why he's failing there a second time. He was warned in 2016 after SC by his internal AA outreach team that his margins with black voters needed to be improved or he couldn't win, and he responded by running away. When the going gets tough, Bernie seems to get going.
As the field has shrunk, it mostly seems like Biden's just gobbled up all of the non-Bernie support.
Bernie's inability to expand his base as it's become a two-person race is definitely striking... I think it's less an issue of trust, though, than one centered on the perceived exclusionary message of the Bernie campaign. Running against the DNC doesn't inherently appeal to Democrats. The "Bernie bro" meme could be alienating to women who aren't on board already, perhaps?
Yeah, it's a bit much. I'm not a Pete guy but seeing people push the homophobic "gay men are amoral sociopaths" trope is really not great.
I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say here. Is it to imply that you agree with the serial killer comparison? Something else?
Yup. I was talking with my parents the other day who are strong Biden supporters and they brought up the same thing. They like Bernie and his ideas but they don't think he'll actually be able to defeat Trump or get anything done with Congress if he's elected. It's a serious perception issue that I don't think the Sanders campaign has been able to address at all. Not everyone who is voting Biden is voting because they are crazy for Biden or think Bernie has bad ideas, a lot of people just want someone that they feel can win. Right now Bernie doesn't look like he can win at all.
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Whatever happens tomorrow there should still be a debate, as we need to see how Biden fares in a one on one debate.
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Clyburn literally took shit loads of money from the Pharmaceutical industry. Joe Rogan is just a stand in for the everyman. I don't see how its hard to understand or see the difference.
We thought Bernie was Goku but as it turns out he is post-cell Gohan
Yeah. What is even more indicative of this is that people who support M4A are still voting for Biden because they think he has a better chance of actually implementing tangible healthcare reform!
Maybe he should have tried to his expand his base to include the South so he wouldn't have lost twice in a row for the exact same reasons.
It's more than perception, really! His non-voters haven't turned out (except arguably in Nevada).
Yup, mentioned this before ST results that his core supporters are people who don't vote. May have been Kyra (or may not have been), that thought building around those that don't normally vote is something that could/ should be done to win or something like that (didn't double check). The answer continues to be no, as you can't win with non-voters. You can have 100 percent resounding support and favorability with non voters and still get smoked like it seems Bernie is about to.
I dunno I kind of take umbrage to the notion that the "everyman" is racist, misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic or in any other way bigoted by default.
Clyburn is the most powerful (elected) black Democrat in the country, full stop. The most pathetic thing is Bernie didn't even try to win his endorsement. If he tried and failed, that'd be one thing.
Also you can't go from "Rogan is the most popular podcaster in the country" to "well actually Rogan is just an average schmuck," like come on, man.
Well said. I've never been a fan but after seeing his ST performance, my hope is that we're looking at another '18-style wave. Here's hoping people put their energy into defeating Trump and supporting Biden as they push him leftward.
A rich white celebrity with shitty beliefs on race, gender, etc. is a stand in for the "everyman" opposed to a black politician.
Gee, that's familiar.
What "gay men are amoral sociopaths" trope? What are you trying to do here?
Youth are never going to vote until politicians make it something you can make look sexy on your Instagram.
Did canceling the single event he had planned in Mississippi so he could have two more (for a total of four) in MI really help his numbers in Michigan all that much.
But you get a free sticker when you vote!
Who doesn't feel like a boss when you get to post this selfie?
True. He built his campaign around the youth, and the youth don't vote unfortunately. At least a lot of lessons will be learned from his defeat. Many books will be written about Biden's surge and the mistakes the Sander's campaign made during this election.
Bernie should run 3rd party.
Be honest, it's going to be a shouting game on whose worse.
Theodore Roosevelt didn't give up after loosing the GOP nomination. He ran on anti corruption that was later popularised by democrats.
We would learning nothing again for repeating 2016
Be honest, it's going to be a shouting game on whose worse.
Theodore Roosevelt didn't give up after loosing the GOP nomination. He ran on anti corruption that was later popularised by democrats.
We would learning nothing again for repeating 2016
And Nevada was a caucus where a fervent base can overcome weaknesses that may show up in a primary vote because of lower participation.
you can disagree with the corporate involvement thing and ignore the context of how rogan's audience sees him but there was a clear logic to the comparison and it was descriptive and not prescriptive.
given this post though it seems like you're more interested in implying people with different priorities than you are harboring secret racial resentment
I think you should just come out and say it because even though its a bad look either way at least it's more honest
That would be a sure way to ensure GOP rule for another decade.
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