Because she's expressing solidarity with Warren, I guess? And Warren didn't endorse Bernie so she's the enemy? Or something?
I keep having people shit on me for "supporting" Biden just because I don't believe in Bernie. It's insanity.
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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Because she's expressing solidarity with Warren, I guess? And Warren didn't endorse Bernie so she's the enemy? Or something?
I keep having people shit on me for "supporting" Biden just because I don't believe in Bernie. It's insanity.
Same. I just want to vote for a progressive in the Primary and then get on with the GE.
Because she dared liked a video that had Elizabeth Warren in it. These people want to win and they don't understand why it might be a bad idea to attack someone who has Bernie's back 24/7, shares his politics etc. just because she liked a fucking SNL video with another progressive in it.
Wild.
Because she enjoyed a video of Warren doing a funny skit. Yes. Literally that is why.
it's giving me "Hillary is LITERALLY dying she can't serve" vibes from 2016. It's just desperation by Bernie supporters. Which is sad, since I'm for Bernie. But damn it's annoying as all hell. I've accepted that Biden will probably be the nominee. Diehards need to get out of their bubble and smell the coffee. I've always hated armchair devs, doctors, etc. though.
I'd honesty pin Hillary's VP pick as a reason she lost in 2016 -- Tim Kaine was the most boring person to back her up. Created no excitement for a candidate that was already pretty boring.
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i know, americans are dumb like that tho
Oh okay, I took that way too literally and became terrified haha. It's probably best he's owning it, I agree.
What in the fucking world.
This was very depressing to watch. She literally displays the emotional intelligence the movement needs to grow and gets purity tested by random bros on Twitter. Hopefully she can whip them in shape. I have a lot of hope for her but I wonder if sexism will do her in.
While I don't align with her politically, I 100% respect the passion and doggedness she has shown. I hope she continues to stay on the scene and hope she don't let people tear her down.
I have to wonder how much of that is pushed by bot networks. I imagine it's hard to tell because some real people are slanted towards acting like that. It would be so easy to push that.
I would hope she'll stick around. We need more progressive voices in the country in general but we especially need progressives who know how to work with others.
Ahhh, yes, I remember watching this. Clean forgot the specifics though. Cheers for the link. :)
Well then the good news is 2016 showed it doesn't matter if you get destroyed in all the presidential debates.
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There are 2 days until very important votes and Warren hasn't endorsed the only candidate who is even close to her stated values. She stuck in the race when it was clear she couldn't win. Bernie supports are not happy with her for that and other reasons, so to see a video of her going on SNL yesterday and making jokes about not endorsing anyone it is infuriating. That is why people are upset with AOC for tweeting that clip and approving of it.
That being said who the fuck knows where her supporters are going to go at this point. I imagine the ones who actually cared about the politics will go to Bernie and the rest of the white women will go to Biden.
We elected a racist reality TV show host. If you didn't bury your expectations at that low point, then I'm not sure what's happening at this moment to discourage you.
Even if she endorsed him, her supporters won't all go in that direction, so your final point would remain regardless of her endorsement status.
I'd be careful about justifying gross, mean-spirited and dickish behaviour, because pretty soon there will be no way Bernie can possibly win the nomination. At that point, there will be loud and repeated calls for him to drop out and endorse quickly to prevent disunity. If you're fine with people treating Bernie in much the same way as people are treating Warren (and by extension AOC), awesome.
Yeah, generally-accepted wisdom is that about half of her supporters go to Biden, regardless of endorsement. Also, there's a chance (a pretty good one, I think) Warren would endorse Biden in exchange for her wealth tax being part of his agenda.
i think its much weirder to be like 'oh why would you say this is lame' than to call something lame on twitter. it is lame by the way and brooks is right to think it sucks cus it sucks
Trump is so stupid he could lose a debate against himself.
The debates don't matter. 2016 has taught us this. It literally doesn't matter if Biden forgets where he is midway through or Trump spends his time calling Ted Cruz's wife ugly. The line is drawn and anybody who says they're undecided probably just doesn't want to admit they're voting for the bigger racist.
By now I'm not even sure if posts like this from Bernie stans refer to Trump winning or getting "Trump 2.0 but smarter" if Biden wins.
Thanks for the apology, I really appreciate it. I know most Bernie fans are good people so don't think I feel this way about most Bernie supporters. I know it's mostly the rowdy ones on the internet that say things like that. Pretty much all the Bernie supporters I've run into in real life are thoughtful and caring people, and that's because Bernie himself is a likable and nice guy. It's just a few of his surrogates and a few rotten eggs on the internet that are making him and his movement look hostile and condescending at times.
We need the numbers and historically we don't have them for a variety of reasons.
I care about good policies and correct moral thinking that rises to the challenge of our times. Warren, Biden and Trump in various ways have shown none of that so fuck them. I am a dick to people who deserve it. Pretty normal considering the stakes. Which doesn't really matter anyways cause when Bernie can't win he will endorse Biden. Even if all his supporters didn't want him to. Hell he keeps talking about endorsing him in the primary which is a stupid move.
Purity testing, the dictionary definition.
Nevermind that the chances of a Dem trifecta - and thus progressive legislation and SCOTUS nominees - increases substantially with Biden as the nominee; if it's not Bernie at the top of the ticket, then nothing matters.
just sayin' if youre one of the people who push the 'biden has dementia' thing really hard -- remember the right is also pushing it too alongside you. think twice before trying to make up for your losing candidate by pushing no context/edited videos. when biden becomes the nominee people are going to super aware that he might have dementia, and trump's gonna exploit the fuck outta it. just be careful what you do.
Sets the news agenda for the next 24 hours
It's also attack ad fodder
Just don't do the debates
Tell me that you are now a parody of yourself. Tell me this is not real :D
Please, tell me, that Michael Brooks fucking posting an emoji and a "No" does not constitute an attack on AOC.
We have truly entered the Twilight Zone.
I don't know, but who would you have in mind? Apart from Warren - which he probably won't choose anyway since he said she's needed in the Senate in a tweet the other day.
I don't know either, mate haha.
Maybe Barbara Lee? She has a really good reputation, wasn't too involved with Sander's campaign (as in more acceptable for centrists), and is a woman of colour.
Like whoops they don't worship AOC, guess it's an attack now!
Establishment dems are cult-like
I know her name has been floated around when it comes to who Sanders could pick as VP, but honestly, I don't really see who Biden would pick if he went for a progressive.
And I still think there's a somewhat significant chance he'll pick Buttigieg, or give him Defense or some other key position.
Personally, I totally agree with Michael on that, it is not a good behavior by Warren.
Yet I still worship AOC, she is a treasure for the way she acts on behalf of her constituents.
What is the problem with AOC's tweet? The fact she isn't joining in on pressuring warren to push her supporters to Bernie? Maybe as a woman she finds it gross the way she was treated? You don't see Biden fans peer pressuring Bloomberg and Harris to support him.
The fact that AOC plays the game of thrones much better than Bernie? Or maybe after a week of being harassed by Bernie fans AOC thinks it great that Warren isn't letting it get to her. What about the rest of the AOC clique, are they demanding Warren turn over her followers?
At this point I feel like you don't even respect yourself if you give into the bullies online.
The fact that AOC plays the game of thrones much better than Bernie? Or maybe after a week of being harassed by Bernie fans AOC thinks it great that Warren isn't letting it get to her. What about the rest of the AOC clique, are they demanding Warren turn over her followers?
At this point I feel like you don't even respect yourself if you give into the bullies online.
I'm actually curious if the logic that it's better for the party to resolve primaries quickly and cleanly tracks, anymore.
The circus of the 2016 GOP primary gave Trump permanent residence in the public headspace. He got the kind of nightly news presence Bloomberg's money couldn't even buy, and he wouldn't have had half of it if the field hadn't been so muddled and there hadn't been drama about delegates potentially flipping a close-run nomination up to the very end.
Maybe it's actually better to drag it out. Maybe all that really matters is having the American voting public hear your name as many times as possible, regardless of the context.
The circus of the 2016 GOP primary gave Trump permanent residence in the public headspace. He got the kind of nightly news presence Bloomberg's money couldn't even buy, and he wouldn't have had half of it if the field hadn't been so muddled and there hadn't been drama about delegates potentially flipping a close-run nomination up to the very end.
Maybe it's actually better to drag it out. Maybe all that really matters is having the American voting public hear your name as many times as possible, regardless of the context.
person A: *Does something*
"Bernie Bro": Hey, I don't like this
right wing democrats: YOU SEE THE HATE AND BIGOTRY OF THE BERNARD BRETHREN THEY ATTACK ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH THEM. POOR PEOPLE SHOULD DIE
Yeah this only applies if the Bernie bro actually said it in toxic-less manner, you know they don't.
yeah might wanna check the news. no one needs to pressure them since they'll fall into line anyway.
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