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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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He might have far and away run away with the nomination but he's incapable of it and he's proving it again
Heyo, thanks for this. As a Warren voter, thanks for this in-depth post!
To be completely fair to Bernie, he managed to boost his Latino support considerably. That's a nugget that I hope other Democratic candidates can build upon for the future.
Otherwise, yeah: Bernie's consistent all right.
It's understandable that Joe has the black support he does. He did take part in the civil rights movement and get arrested in apartheid South Africa, after all.
That's true. Unfortunately he couldn't build other crucial coalitions - suburban women and older voters. It's truly impossible to win without them.
funny how folks are quick to pat his lying ass on the back
imagine if it were Bernie instead, lord have mercy
As opposed to White-Flight Bernie for 30 years.
No, Bernie and his supporters use marching alongside Mitch Mcconnell as his Civil Rights Activism.
Helps when you actually show up in our communities to talk to us instead of the last major interactions with black folks being "I marched with Doctor King" and "I supported Jesse Jackson in '88" (and the latter I actually give him real credit for, but that was 32 years ago).
"I knew the crime bill that Biden helped author would be used for bad things... but voted for it anyways" isn't exactly a good look.
There's an easy way to find out why someone, like a black voter in South Carolina (or Michigan, looking prospectively), supports Biden instead of Bernie.
Ask them, instead of insinuating that they were duped somehow. They're also not monoliths, so they probably all have different reasons.
(To turn that on its head, Biden's camp should attempt to analyze why Latino voters support Bernie instead of Joe.)
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No, they clearly do not "know" Joe Biden at all. If people actually knew his record of racism, cutting government programs, and sexual harassment allegations and not JUST that he was the guy attached to Obama, they'd be regretting each and every one of their primary votes. Instead, the Democratic party has proven they more under-informed than ever, and the party will probably die after Biden fails to secure the rust belt states in November and go on to fail the presidential election. Oh yeah... we seem to forget about the few states that actually determine the presidential election. Good luck telling them they should vote for the guy who supported NAFTA. That worked out great in 2016.
Are you saying African Americans that voted in the primary are underinformed? I'm pretty sure primary voters are very aware of all the things you've said and more.
I'm almost 100% sure that the majority of voters in general are misinformed.
Read this thread. Hint: it's not because they are uninformed.
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“I've talked to TOO MANY black Southern voters this week (and during my life) I wanna stop and explain the concept of "the establishment" to some people and why a lot of black Southern voters will NEVER vote for Bernie.”
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There were primary voters that literally didnt know who they were going to vote for while in line to vote.
Read this thread. Hint: it's not because they are uninformed.
michaelharriot on Twitter
“I've talked to TOO MANY black Southern voters this week (and during my life) I wanna stop and explain the concept of "the establishment" to some people and why a lot of black Southern voters will NEVER vote for Bernie.”
This is a good thread.
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Read this thread. Hint: it's not because they are uninformed.
michaelharriot on Twitter
“I've talked to TOO MANY black Southern voters this week (and during my life) I wanna stop and explain the concept of "the establishment" to some people and why a lot of black Southern voters will NEVER vote for Bernie.”
Thanks for this one.
That was a great read.Read this thread. Hint: it's not because they are uninformed.
michaelharriot on Twitter
“I've talked to TOO MANY black Southern voters this week (and during my life) I wanna stop and explain the concept of "the establishment" to some people and why a lot of black Southern voters will NEVER vote for Bernie.”
Read this thread. Hint: it's not because they are uninformed.
michaelharriot on Twitter
“I've talked to TOO MANY black Southern voters this week (and during my life) I wanna stop and explain the concept of "the establishment" to some people and why a lot of black Southern voters will NEVER vote for Bernie.”
This has been a great read, thanks.
.Read this thread. Hint: it's not because they are uninformed.
michaelharriot on Twitter
“I've talked to TOO MANY black Southern voters this week (and during my life) I wanna stop and explain the concept of "the establishment" to some people and why a lot of black Southern voters will NEVER vote for Bernie.”
So how do you begin to break this cycle because what he's proposing works in literally every other developed country yet there's a belief is it's somehow out of reach.
I was thinking the same thing with that example. This person is definitely not uninformed, but definitely misinformed. The "stifles innovation " fallacy is so fuckin frustrating
Its also an ingrained belief in many libertarians. Ayn Rand has done serious damage to the world.
Cause it seems to come up a lot when talking about black voters. Yet white voters living in the same area are said to have been abandoned or left behind. People see the low key racism and double standard
Read this thread. Hint: it's not because they are uninformed.
michaelharriot on Twitter
“I've talked to TOO MANY black Southern voters this week (and during my life) I wanna stop and explain the concept of "the establishment" to some people and why a lot of black Southern voters will NEVER vote for Bernie.”
Depressing
Particularly that bullshit about innovation being stifled
I'd say what's sums it up is issues that are presented to the public get a majority of support and then those same people that support those issues don't vote for the candidates that champion it. I know there's more to an election than policy but maybe there shouldn't be.
this might be an effective line of attack against the biden camp if bernie didn't literally hire jill stein voters to staff his campaign
Literally every other developed country doesn't have to contend with the same legislative setup as the US. The system is built on requiring extreme degrees of consensus to get things passed. A lot of Dem Senators are planning on removing at least one of those layers should we win the Senate, but that still leads roadblocks that Sanders (who has never passed a bill in all his time in Congress) is going to face more difficulty getting beyond than others.
US pharmaceutical companies factually produce more new drugs. Whether you think those drugs are necessary or not, and whether they're worth maintaining the current status quo (I'd say no to the latter at least), there is truth in our current system leading to more innovation.
Lol damn never considered that Pete's writing and George Lucas' writing could have a lot in common.
Many Democrats and people on the left in general have said that about white working class folk who vote Republican all the time. It's one of the main points driven in What's The Matter With Kansas?
I actually think it's less of an issue with black voters; so many are pragmatic to a fault. I knew so many in Florida who liked Andrew Gillum a lot, would get wide-eyed with excitement when I said I was voting for him in the primary, only for them to tell me they're voting Levine or something because they thought he could win the general election over Gillum.
So continue to prop up a shitty system for what?Read this thread. Hint: it's not because they are uninformed.
michaelharriot on Twitter
“I've talked to TOO MANY black Southern voters this week (and during my life) I wanna stop and explain the concept of "the establishment" to some people and why a lot of black Southern voters will NEVER vote for Bernie.”
Those drugs are funded through grants from the government, so id say the innovation would continue without private healthcare
I mean, how did this work out for Warren? If anything, the democratic party should probably look at why so many people are attracted to bernie's message, realize that his demographics are the future, and start shifting towards a platform that more readily embraces his ideas.
Sounds like she was fired for all the right reasons. Why is this a knock on Biden?
By what metric, then, would you measure "innovation" if not "creation of new drugs.
And that's a perfectly valid viewpoint to hold. But it is an unproven one. And the counterpoint that would inevitably be raised is that other nations are also funding drugs through government grants.
My point is that "does not agree with your world view" =/= "misinformed". Especially when they actually have direct knowledge of the field they're talking about.
Based on what? We don't know she's still working for him based on those tweets.
Claims to be a surrogate.
Why would we assume someone was fired with no announcement from the campaign? She hasn't been fired.
That anyone could ever come to the conclusion that innovation is upheld in the American medical system in like 95% of cases is a terrible reality for people who have never and will likely never know better. But it isn't just black voters in the south that have been fooled by Uncle Sam's early capitalism propaganda. Basically everyone I know has been fooled by this. No one realizes that capitalism's innovation stops as soon as anti-trust law isn't enforced.
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