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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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I've never liked this argument. One of the key arguments and points of needing to remove the Electoral College is the popular vote of the last 20 years
2000 - Bush EC Win - PV Loss
2004 - Bush EC Win - PV Win
2008 - Obama EC Win - PV Win
2012 - Obama EC Win - PV Win
2016 - Trump EC Win - PV Loss
Every vote counts in building the narrative that elections are being stolen and our votes are a fraction of worth compared to random rural votes that punch far above their weight. Protest voting is doing damage to this argument and overall narrative, the larger the popular vote wins, the easier it is to keep the abolishment of the EC going.
Court reform would likely be a pre-req for a Warren endorsement.
Uh...by what mechanism could those two be legally removed? O.o Just curious, I have no idea.
You wouldn't get the latter with Bernie. The impeachment of SCOTUS judges is the same process as impeaching the president. You need 2/3s of the Senate to vote to convict.
Impeachment
That's not happening no matter who is elected. That's never been an option or on the table.
Impeach the motherfuckers.
tbh, I don't know if there would be a legal argument to remove Gorsuch. But then again impeachment is political anyway... But Kavanaugh. That asshole rapist is clearly unfit to be a judge in any court let alone SCOTUS.
Hence I said "I'm not getting ... then ..."
Well, Biden says he can work with Republicans. Let him do his magic.
Oh how I wish trump lost so he could fuck off being a game show host and we'd read his tweets and laugh. sigh
If judicial impeachment works the way presidential impeachment does, won't it be effectively impossible to reach 67 senators?
Wouldn't it be ironic having that shit head Clarence Thomas sit there while his best buddy Biden is trying to remove a fellow sexual abuser colleague?
If any candidate has a ceiling that is incompatible with winning the general they shouldn't be the candidate. That goes for every last one of them.
So which candidates, if any, have demonstrated that they are likely to have such a ceiling?
Be dispassionate about it.
So which candidates, if any, have demonstrated that they are likely to have such a ceiling?
Be dispassionate about it.
*drops coffee mug in slow motion*
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Remember when Warren was the one? I would have taken that gladly.
Remember when Sanders was the one? I would, also, have taken that gladly.
Now Biden is the one. Biden. Biden! I'm sorry; I'm still not over it. I don't think I'll ever be over it. I'll tell all the young children gathered around the Christmas tree that there was a gift much greater than the presents they hold. A gift in the form of Warren/Sanders. And how it was taken from us by the populace we have to share our country with.
I'll then vote for the moderate candidate of that era to screw over the newer generations. They'll wish me dead, but thanks to the ingenuity of men/healthcare, I'll just seemingly refuse to die, ever. I'll take revenge on the descendants of those who I feel wronged me.
Remember when Sanders was the one? I would, also, have taken that gladly.
Now Biden is the one. Biden. Biden! I'm sorry; I'm still not over it. I don't think I'll ever be over it. I'll tell all the young children gathered around the Christmas tree that there was a gift much greater than the presents they hold. A gift in the form of Warren/Sanders. And how it was taken from us by the populace we have to share our country with.
I'll then vote for the moderate candidate of that era to screw over the newer generations. They'll wish me dead, but thanks to the ingenuity of men/healthcare, I'll just seemingly refuse to die, ever. I'll take revenge on the descendants of those who I feel wronged me.
When all is said and done, we don't get progressive candidates elected because young people don't vote.
What's wrong with that IG post? That cartoon is pretty spot on.
I'm passionate about progressivism. I don't care whether it's Bernie or someone else. How do we determine the best chance at winning the general? How each prospective candidate does in battleground states?
The Dems are taking over government, apparently, so it's time that we also pretend our foreign policy has no connection to the actions, if not the creation, of our enemies.
At the end of the day, moderate is just another flavor of neocon
I know it feels better to lie to yourself that the DNC picked Biden. I get it, people like lying to themselves. It's reassuring. It's hard to accept being wrong and it's easier to feel like it was stolen from you instead. I get it's hard to accept Bernie lost fair and square.
But guess what? Bernie lost fair and square and Biden won fair and square.
The. DNC didn't pick Biden did. The voters did. Loyal base democratic party voters. Like African Americans, union workers, and women. Demographics like those are what won Biden the nomination.
Maybe instead of blaming the DNC you listen to the will of the democratic voters instead?
Biden wasn't my choice but this is how primaries go. You don't get to take your ball and go home.
and when that didn't happen
They wouldn't have endorsed if he didn't win SC.
The DNC didn't result in this. Black voters did. Fair and square.
The choice is still the same, folks: Sanders, or trump.
We went through this in 2016. It is all going to happen again.
But until the primary is over, there is hope.
We went through this in 2016. It is all going to happen again.
But until the primary is over, there is hope.
User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissal of black experience
I came in here after the announcement just to see people show their real colors.
Who she endorses doesn't change the fact that she grew up in America as a black girl or her experience.
Uh, you shouldn't deal in absolutes. Both perspectives are simply wrong. The reality is that both the DNC and voters influence each other. Nothing exist in a vacuum. Voters get influence by ads, the media, manufactured consent, in-group favoritism, and so on. This includes BOTH Biden and Bernie voters. The DNC chooses a candidate that they feel is safe with their base, BUT they will also choose one that is favorable to their vested interests. The world isn't black and white. It's not "voters never get affected by any external influences" or "the DNC controls everything". Both are fundamentally wrong.
Biden does not carry the 30+ years of negativity Hillary did. It is not comparable at all.
To the shock of absolutely no one. Of course she wasn;t going to back Bernie.
The stench of corruption he carries is hundreds of times clearer and more understandable.
And that is without considering his burgeoning dementia.
"Sleepy Joe" will eat shit. Trump is already salivating at it.
When Kamala dropped out, I distinctively remember Bernie folks here and on Twitter celebrating, mocking her like Trump had lost.
I come from a pretty suburban to rural area and people fucking despised Hillary people voted for trump or stayed home. I already have a handful of people that said they would vote for Biden but would probably stay home if it was bernie because of his "socialism". These are trump voters too. I've explained the difference to these people but most of this country doesn't want some promise of a crazy revolution. They just want things to go back to normal.
I mean, within a week of that exchange she confirmed that she basically agreed with Biden's position. The only surprising thing about this endorsement is how long it's taken.
Turnout is way up in the states Biden is winning in the areas Biden is winning from the same voters that led to Dems retaking the house in 2018. All evidence we have available to us at this point in time from actual voter behavior since 2016 shows that you are wrong.
Based on what? Why would voters suddenly come out more for sanders in November when they're not now? Biden is doing very well and turnout remains strong.
I wanted a progressive to win as much as anyone else and I can't stand Biden but that's what the voters have chosen.
Jackson a key figure of us politics, especially for what he did during the 80s. Im really that he is oj board.
I admire Jackson very much but his endorsement should have come before South Carolina and Super Tuesday. I hope his name still carries a lot of weight in today's political climate especially with the groundbreaking work of his Rainbow Coalition
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