It's not huge, and it seems there's a pretty good chance Biden gets closer from here on.
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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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It's not huge, and it seems there's a pretty good chance Biden gets closer from here on.
He was obviously too busy pumping out BS desperate ads licking Obama's nutsack after trashing him since 2012
If you're Kulinski today you're probably pretty desperate to find some kind of, any kind of positive spin to put on ST.
On the contrary, his campaign's Latinx outreach was legit impressive and it paid dividends. Kudos to them on that.
Thanks for voting. That's going to be an uphill battle for sure.
LOL the candidate most popular with hispanic voters is tonedeaf to the concerns of non-white voters
fuck this disingenuous jackass
He'll pick a Qanon guy in the name of compromise and bipartisanship.
See, this is what I complained about when posting that Bernie needed to make inroads with the party. At some point you have to play the political game and get people on your side. The fact that Bernie himself talks often about how he isn't for the niceties highlights this. You have to make these personal connections in this field. Sucks, but it's the reality.
It's a really good question...
Even when Bernie was looking very strong post-South Carolina, he did nothing to signal to moderates that he could be someone that they could rally behind. He was terrible at getting any endorsements, from anyone (look at who he put up!).
This steadfastness is probably part of his inherent temperament (and is in line with how he's reportedly viewed in the Senate), but his campaign should have done everything they could to lessen this aspect of his personality, because it doesn't invite people in who aren't already ideologically on board.
I keep posting about Sanders' outreach to the Latine community netting huge benefits and no one seems to want to talk about it.
given what we know about both campaigns' efforts that tweet feels especially gross
The only thing the delegate count says now is whether or not it is "close" but when you consider Bernie losing the white rural vote so far this year, then I don't see how it changes much going forward. He won't be able to string many victories going forward unless something changes.
That's some pretty disingenuous garbage about the candidate who's winning the latino and asian vote.
Oh yeah, it's definitely going to be a female POC.
Kamala Harris, Stacey Abrams, and Tammy Duckworth come to mind.
It really is one of the most important demographics of this election, especially considering the administration's vitriol towards their community, and there is no other candidate speaking to them like Sanders is.
No, this was a primary election to qualify for the ballot in November and he got that and that tweet is him celebrating that fact.
The only minorities who count are those who for Biden, apparently.
Democrats just now began respecting black voters after what we did in 2018. It takes time for them not to take your group as a joke. Democrats should be asking why Bernie decimated thier chosen candidate in Nevada which happens to have the fastest growing minority population in it's state. But hey who cares, Joe gonna get the older black folk and those mythical rust belt Dems!
I mean, he did. What else is there to be said? Biden ran up the score with AA voters and didn't do horribly enough with latin@ to lose Texas while doing middling with whites. That's the bottomline.
this has always been my thought as well. Biden's plan isn't as good, but it's more realistic to getting passed. Probably unlikely for either though unless some craziness happens
Yes which he lost to Pelosi by 60%
Do you think he's going to overcome that 60% deficit?
Why these generalizations? Are people saying that? Anywhere?
No it isn't, and why the fuck are you linking people to some barely-engaged-with rando's tweets?
Bernie is very clearly the preferred candidate among Latino and Asian voters.
I keep seeing hot takes in here about Bernie making no advances in his outreach since 2016 and it's plainly not true.
If he picks Pete, this will be the hardest vote of my life. It'd be like he's mocking me.
It was a brief moment of existential terror I had, but that's passed now lol
Honestly, online Bernie bros are just a puzzle to me. I checked out r/politics earlier and just judging by their front page you couldn't tell that Bernie suffered a huge defeat last night. None of Biden's wins were on the front page. I hope that it's bots manipulating the voting, because that sub is pretty suspect anyway, but then I see real people like Kulinski or Hasan, and I wonder if many people online are actually like this. Like, completely detached from reality while absording exclusively news from blatantly shit sources like Kyle.
Goddamnit
Ok now the excitement makes more (?) sense
The Google table is off
It's not 24 that Google says, it's a split of 71
Unless I'm still missing something though I don't see how even if this happens that Bernie gets a huge influx
Ok now the excitement makes more (?) sense
The Google table is off
It's not 24 that Google says, it's a split of 71
Unless I'm still missing something though I don't see how even if this happens that Bernie gets a huge influx
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Do you think forcing Pelosi to actually try to win progressive votes in November is actually a bad idea?
What does change look like to you if it doesn't involve voting for progressive candidates?
Not my election so was just gonna lurk but something I want to add since that tweet also does this is that people keep trying to erase or sweep under the rug the fact that Bernie is Jewish and try to cast him as just a old white dude
Read the twitter thread Kirblar posted literally within the last ten minutes.
He won latin@'s in 2016 as well, though by less (Helps that Bloomberg took a bigger chunk than Warren). He lost AA's in 2016 as well, by similar margins. He lost states he won in 2016 today. I'm not sure he did nothing, but what he did sure didn't help him with AAs.
Not to mention that Biden won the working class vote, which Bernie feels like is his base, when it's not.
he seems to not have made a particularly strong effort to reach out to black voters in the south, which imo would be a good place to reach to voters because the south tends to be very poor and full of disenfranchised folks who could maybe benefit from strong leftist policies
Oh no I know, its just that Liberals now, like in 2016, are saying he has no minority support in order to make it seem like his supporters are all white dudes.
Meanwhile, in November Pelosi wins reelection with 80% of the vote.
There's no doubt Sanders faces an uphill battle (especially after the exit of Bloomber). But people suggesting (in this thread and other places online) that he should drop is absurd.
The difference in Biden vs. Sanders is a top-down approach to politics (endorsements, media coverage, partnering with moneyed interests) vs. a bottoms up approach to politics (door knocking, phonebanking, rallies, etc.). The Biden approach happens to work better right now, which is why he did so well in the past few days.
And while obviously there are a lot of white people that go over the top with their hot takes concerning black voters, I don't think we have to swing to the opposite direction and pretend like Joe Biden has this completely organic, long-time support of black folks. He ran for president twice before, and didn't get support from anyone, let alone black voters, and then he got picked by Obama to be on the ticket so that Obama wouldn't be seen as too much of a newbie/radical, and he's now benefiting from that, which allows him to avoid having to actually do any campaigning or discussion of his actual record on black issues.
And while obviously there are a lot of white people that go over the top with their hot takes concerning black voters, I don't think we have to swing to the opposite direction and pretend like Joe Biden has this completely organic, long-time support of black folks. He ran for president twice before, and didn't get support from anyone, let alone black voters, and then he got picked by Obama to be on the ticket so that Obama wouldn't be seen as too much of a newbie/radical, and he's now benefiting from that, which allows him to avoid having to actually do any campaigning or discussion of his actual record on black issues.
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