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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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FWIW MSNBC says Warren is reassessing her path forward today. Same language as Bloomberg last night
Bloomberg will murder Biden in the first term not a doubt in my mind
Find me the person in this thread arguing that real voters did not vote for Biden.
Oh right, you wont find it. So you should stop acting like the people criticizing DNC/MSM for heavily attacking Bernie without stopping, for MONTHS are somehow arguing that *itsallaconspiracy.gif*.
She was my preferred candidate with Bernie second. I take "reassessing" as taking calls from people as to who she should endorse and if there are any cabinet or VP positions in sight.
woof, USA played itself, again. So, another 4 years of Trump? Good luck with that fellows. I hope everyting is a ok there.
This mindset confuses me. Hillary narrowly lost in 2016 but she was saddled with an unfair reputation that could not be overcome and went up against incredible amounts of misogyny -- hurdles which were unfortunately too high for her to clear. Biden has generally been viewed as a good and likable guy for a very long time and does not have to deal with being a woman running for president. If he ran against Trump in 2016, he almost certainly wins given the small margins. Why are people assuming that whatever happened then will happen again? I don't get it.
Let's not forget that the most progressive president can't get anything done with a resistant Republican Congress. Obama not being progressive enough isn't at all what hurt his agenda.
He basically begged people to vote in the midterms and people didn't listen.
This take is tired. It's not only tired, it's wrong, as was demonstrably proven yesterday given the turnout numbers and the results.
Do I think we're guaranteed the Senate with Biden, no, but it is completely disingenuous after last night to try and say that Sanders has the better case for "motivating voters" over Biden.
Exactly. Not to mention this argument that moderates don't win elections requires completely ignoring 2018.
And probably cost as much to him as a $5 donation to a Twitch streamer would've cost you or me.
Nope and she still gets her 1 delegate lol
Which I guess technically means she gets a seat at the convention?
God I hope she drops out today.
The Daily Beast on Twitter
“NEW: Sen. Elizabeth Warren is deciding whether to continue her presidential campaign “Elizabeth is talking to her team to assess the path forward,” an aide told The Daily Beast. https://t.co/crds5l38TT”twitter.com
And now there were two. Warren will probs drop out very soon.
But the question is, is she going to endorse Bernie or is she going to show her true colors?
Bernie isn't a viable candidate, the primary is essentially over. She will endorse Biden.
Everyone, except Bernie, are going to move forward towards the general after last night.
It's absolutely laughable that you believe you can recreate 40 years of vehement demonization of a woman with a single fictional scandal on a man.
Can't wait for the Biden voter quote "My family member died because we didn't have insurance, I'll still for for Biden in 2024 though".
That makes zero sense. The only element that stopped a complete Biden blowout last night was Bloomberg taking votes from him.
Interesting question for the Bernie supporters. Which is the best path for Warren and the progressive movement, dropping and endorsing Sanders at this point, or dropping, endorsing Biden and guaranteeing herself a position in a future Biden admin, putting a prominent progressive voice directly in the executive office?
This is some rando but I do ponder this....
I know people will rightfully point out that Bernie has the better stance on healthcare but I do wonder if the Corona Virus isn't causing people to just want to get things back to when Obama was there.
Seems like the smart move. Its weird how quickly all of this happened. Just like a week ago Biden's campaign was barely clinging to life
Neither Warren nor Sanders should join a Biden admin, if only because it'd be a GOP senator in their place for at least ~6 months. They should stay in Senate to push Biden.
She really owes Bernie nothing, and Biden has a near majority of voters locked down at this point—plus up to 60% of Warren's supporters are likely to go to Biden.
Honest question, but why should a disabled person like me feel anything other than complete demoralization if this really does come down to a vote between Trump or Biden? I'm one cut away from being on the street and Biden is gunning just as hard to cut disabilities as much as Trump is. At least if Trump does it, you all will pretend to actually care about disabled folk for half a second and treat it like the evil that it is, while if Biden does it, you will find every excuse under the sun to justify it. You can go on and on about how I'm supporting Trump or am as evil as a republican for not wanting to give my vote of approval to the guy who gives as little of a fuck about the disabled as Trump, but it doesn't matter. Disabled folk are always on the chopping block and even after having 20-some freaking candidates to choose from, people continue to make it clear how little of a shit they give about the disabled by going with the guy who is actively trying to ruin what little support we have just as much as the republicans. It fucking sucked when we had to watch Obama try to throw us under the bus, and it's clear that even now that isn't going to change, regardless of who is in charge.
Glad we're on this shit so early.
I wonder how long until "Bernie is going to cost us 2020" will start.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking as well.
Actually in reality moderate democrats win elections all the time. Unless your sample size is....1.
Piss off with these stupid drive-by posts, man. Both of our front-runners are polling similarly versus Trump and we have a real good shot with either Joe or Bernie.
He didn't accomplish that lmao, if anything he helped Bernie by stopping Biden from getting even more delegates this Super Tuesday.
You know who ignores 2018? Those who just see it as a random snapshot.
It was a SNAPBACK against trump. It was also fueled by women.
Guess what Biden does to women? Sniffs them. Not exactly the inspiring character for them to get energized in a GE. Trump will use those footages in ads.
No one will vote for Trump because of that, but they will stay home.
These are not novel concepts. Voter supression, depressing turnout,confusing voters: none of these are new. And, they have been used against Bernie too this time.
She wont. She will endorse Joe.I hope I am wrong, though.
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I don't want to say the people deserve the misfortunes they get out of not voting and are victims of these problems, but...
They deserve it in the same way we've had people in the UK not voting despite being victims of the problem.
It's a cruel mindset and I don't think it's in the government's interest to make voting easier for them. But the people not wanting to go out, vote and attempt to change their fate deserve the suffering because they enabled a worse government by inaction.
Oh well, more people in poverty and suffering is actually better for my line of work, so I'm not totally losing out here.
you know the answer. The one which requires showing pure loyalty to a person rather than the progressive cause.
Based on words from various people, including Bernie, I think Obama is not going to make any official endorsement, but will be coming out STRONG in the general for whomever wins. Which is a good thing, and I think an appropriate strategy. Obama is still very popular among dem voters and presumably still a great orator.
The voters that DID actually turn out yesterday, older black voters and others, may not generally be in love with Joe Biden. But they are united in really, really, really wanting to get Trump out of office. And they're gonna feel the same way in 6 months, and I don't think a Burisma story or Joe's sentences sometimes crumbling before they get all the way out his mouth are going to change that.
The voters that DID actually turn out yesterday, older black voters and others, may not generally be in love with Joe Biden. But they are united in really, really, really wanting to get Trump out of office. And they're gonna feel the same way in 6 months, and I don't think a Burisma story or Joe's sentences sometimes crumbling before they get all the way out his mouth are going to change that.
Well Bernie's 0-1, and the Justice Democrat's are like, 6-150.
When you're very afraid, you don't put it all in on the last ditch effort to clench the game. That's movie stuff. The average person retreats to the safest status quo. That would be "The guy who stood next to Obama" in this case.
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