They have to vote for their candidate to get him to the GE and they didn't. Forgive me for not counting on them to be there in November
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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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They have to vote for their candidate to get him to the GE and they didn't. Forgive me for not counting on them to be there in November
You're not selecting your president in the primary. The primary isn't the be all and end all right?
apparently you're perfectly capable of reconciling Bernie fans disliking the NYT but agreeing with it on obvious points
however, you cannot resist throwing out silly rhetoric over a Bernie fan using the "worst person you know just made a great point" meme in response to a Trump tweet
almost like you're letting your biases contort you into goofy-ass positions that make no sense
You know what I think the difference is between a progressive and a moderate?
Progressives don't let problematic people slide. It's a part of fixing this corrupt world. Hold people accountable or be a moderate.
I'm in Texas and went to my polling station in the middle of the afternoon to try to avoid the long work lines. Instead I stood in line over an hour then was told I needed to vote 2 counties over because despite my having sent in my voter registration TWICE prior to the deadline they still had me at my old address. Got there around 5 and lines were hours long. Real effect from the closing of all those voter locations. I wouldn't be surprised if that's why Biden took down Sanders here.
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They literally voted less often yesterday than they did in 2016.... LESS, when he had a viable chance to win.... and while turnout overall was up
Calling Biden a progressive to make centrists feel better for supporting him, accomplishes...?
What are you talking about? The mass media is on social media. People that are seen on CNN, ABC, Foxnews, etc get tweeted left and right constantly and picked up by other online only personalities every single second.
I want Bernie to win, but at some point you've gotta call a spade a spade: the youth vote is still unreliable and didn't show up when they absolutely needed to. Whether it was apathy, less opportunity to vote, whatever, that doesn't change the fact that you can't ignore the system and then expect influence within it. Bernie was their best shot at change and they still couldn't be assed to get out and vote.
Look, I remember during the debates people finding both candidates to be a joke despite Hillary being actually logical compared to Trump, but the Brexit-supporting loonies around me all thought Trump was 'saying it like it is'. To the apathetic, both sides were the same (a loathsome half-inaccurate and reductive phrase that caused a lot of woes for us), but for the loonies, of which there were many, Trump resoundingly won. The best case scenario IMO is that Biden pulls out the same debate 'victories' then loses in the actual election again when said debate analysts turn out once again to be vastly out of lockstep with actual votes.
Oh, and by all means, insinuate I'm a Trump supporter, please. Very much a Joe Biden tactic to insult your allies, isn't it? Some big-tent candidate he is.
Then I am sure there will be absolutely nothing to worry about come November. GL
It also ignores the MSM dumping on biden and practically burying him for weeks before SC. So should we chastise the media for all that burying or should we chastise them for reporting on biden's SC victory or should we accept reality. Lots of options.
Should the media have not reported on Butteklob dropping out and endorsing Biden?
Yeah this shit is fucked up
VOTING SHOULD BE EASY AND MINDLESS
This definitely is a contributor to depressed turn out and I consider any example of it unacceptable
I see you ignored the reality of the primary process being reworked for Sanders, but still flogging the, "Dem machine made all our voters stay home" BS.
Folks trying to square away Sander's coalition shrinking from 2016 is pretty amusing to see.
Funnier yet is that the data seems to show some of Sander's support in 2016 was from "Fuck Hillary" folks more than anything else.
Listening to 538 and they basically agree. "The pundification of the electorate" - people are voting for who they are told will win and very clearly not who they like most or they themselves believe in. Going purely off who they are told they should vote for.
Who knows... but Sanders getting less young people out to vote for him when he could win than when he couldn't is disconcerting
I thought the same thing but man that Bernie ad is even more insidious than the Bloomberg one. I think if Biden has a good week next week it wouldn't surprise me if he jumped in right before Florida to end it.
Welp, this certainly reminds me of Labour in the UK.
Don't worry Bernie fans, the left in the UK knows how you feel.
Don't worry Bernie fans, the left in the UK knows how you feel.
This is hilarious? I would say young voters showing up in lesser numbers than 2016 is bad actually, for whoever the dem candidate is.
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Right thats what it was. Not that more people want Biden. I guess denial is the first stage of grief though.
You know the political spectrum isn't; Progressives -> Centerists -> Republicans -> Clinton's, right?
You just agreed with someone being deeply sarcastic but congrats
Poor one out for Chris Matthews this morning. If he just held off on his meltdowns until after ST he would've been sitting pretty and still had a job.
This has been Biden's angle since he entered the race. It's so boring. At least his rivals have articulated clear plans--please don't link me to the damn website lol. He's not campaigning on those plans.
So you are fine with denying people their right to vote? Mostly low-income minority voters? Get real.
Voter supression to own the progressives is the new hotness, apparently. With a bit of gaslighting added.
We saw some of that data in 2016, as well
WV has a ton of old Democrats who are Democrats only because they've never bothered to update their registration to Republican. So they vote in the primary.
Bernie won WV pretty handedly in 2016 among voters who were voting Republican in the general election. They just hated Hillary that much that they came out to specifically vote against her in a primary for a candidate they had 0 intention of ever voting for in the general.
Yeah this is why I don't get the media fucked Sanders theory. The media was all to happy to run Biden conspiracy shit and I saw some coverage of his speeches calling him out as rambling, etc, shit they would never say about Trump. They dumped on him for his campaign almost being dead too. The media dumps on all liberals because they want to be seen as fair and unbiased.
I mean you guys had a fucking chance with Bernie.... he had a fucking chance.
If this was the case what happened to Michael Bloomberg he had millions of TV ads and billions of dollars and ended up with just American Samoa. People are making excuses for Bernie Sanders shortcomings. He couldn't get African Americans or even the young people he so claimed he had. Facts are facts I'm not gonna argue when people are just refusing to look at the numbers.
I never expected the youth vote to show up, so I'm not going to say it is a bad result at all because it went as expected.
The voters that helped Democrats win in 2018 showed up, and they did for Biden and that's far more important to winning 2020 than an increasing reliance on a youth vote that consistently fails to show up.
Trump also amusingly called out Bloomberg yesterday that a lot of moderates on here agreed with
Nice try tho
The vast majority of voters aren't paying attention to Twitter or MSNBC, they watch an hour of local news and vote for people they've heard of. Bernie had like 100% name recognition and couldn't close the deal
I think people really need to rethink how important policies are for electability.
www.vox.com
Why support for Medicare-for-all didn’t translate into a bigger Super Tuesday for Bernie Sanders
Medicare-for-all keeps outperforming Bernie Sanders with Dem primary voters.
www.vox.com
Thank you. It's like some believe all of the policies Bernie is proposing will just happen as soon as he's sworn in. It would be nothing but infighting (that's even if Dems can take control of both houses) and then mid-terms would hit and Republicans would win one or both chambers. Bernie might accomplish one promise and that would likely mean him compromising on the bill -- which I think he wouldn't do until faced with the reality of losing a chamber and thus any progress.
I want Bernie's policies, but in reality, he wouldn't accomplish much before the first round of mid-terms.
The poll closings, designed to affect the general election outcome in TX, affected every candidate running in the primary.
Did you miss the part where Bloomberg is hovering double digits, even after the brutal takedown of the last debates?
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