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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Actually I do think Biden will get in more voters and win the popular vote... (especially if the higher turnout in the primaries is to be believed)
But I don't think he will win the electoral college.
No, he wants to try and rile people up like before. Try and get angry Bernie supporters to say fuck the DNC.
better? no, just shitty, and I said I was open to Biden earning my vote, up to him to speak about these issues
Did you read what I am saying? I'm just going to vote and tune out the race if Biden gets the nom. I'm still voting, but I'll lose my desire to pay attention.
Is that Elizabeth Warren's position? She's currently one of my senators and arguably the most productive progressive senator in American government, and y'know, that doesn't seem to be her position. But who knows, maybe you're right. Maybe the architect of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is secretly "propping up coorperations and neglecting our people."
I don't care too much about Hunter Biden, that will be a minor thing. TV ads will be made about Biden sniffing hair and being an incredibly creepy man. TV ads will be made about Biden being against bussing, TV ads will be made about some of the bullshit he's been peddling this campaign, like getting arrested while trying to free Mandela.
It has a good chance of suppressing Turnout in a huge way.
A ton! It's not hidden.
Agree to disagree, I believe all the things that are out there on Biden are significantly worse.
Moreover he has shown to be able to handle even most minor of attacks.
I actually don't, the world is a pretty shitty place for most people
The northeast isn't Bernie's though, he lost Massachusetts and Maine.
You know this means those razor blades are being forced onto your face.
Not analogous situations when one side stands for nothing and has no values. It will always be easier for fascists to fall in line for this reason, which is what makes liberalism so weak to it and obsolete.
it's almost as if when the party loudly declares that it has no interest in the issues the youth care about, the youth don't show up to the polls
New York primary is almost two months away, and she put in what might be a career ending performance tonight, don't think she's going to be able to stick it out that long.
We could say the same about you lot. But keep up with the accusations without giving anyone a good reason to support Biden.
This. This. This. And Biden's platform is more progressive than Obama (need to keep repeating it)
It's really not worthwhile to convince a person to vote.
At the end of the day, I think you should, but that's up to you if you don't. Either way, we're stuck on this ship together.
At the end of the day, I think you should, but that's up to you if you don't. Either way, we're stuck on this ship together.
This is so transparent and insulting. I'm not going to allow my enthusiasm for this movement to be exploited by this child. I'm still going to work to try and get a progressive in office, but I'll be there to remove him from office either way.
America is broken.
"We want change!"
"But not actually we just want more of the same but we want our guy instead of your guy"
"We want change!"
"But not actually we just want more of the same but we want our guy instead of your guy"
I mean statistically if the busters were young people then they weren't going to vote anyway so...
They have enough time to write paragraphs on forums though ;)
Oh, I think the establishment should offer concessions.
However, I don't think it will make a difference whether they do or don't.
It's over. The northeast hasn't even been Bernie's domain. Not with Biden winning Massachusetts despite never setting foot there, and basically taking Maine to a draw. Bernie needed a much better night tonight than what he got. This has been better for Biden than literally his thought to be best case scenario.
The sad reality is that the better Bloomberg does, the better Bernie will do. So maybe not that helpful. :P
No it doesn't. Look at these turnout numbers. No one cares about any of that and it's clear.
Can't go to bed, work showed up (freelance)..
GOTTA MAKE THAT MONEY
Keep telling yourself that, but in reality most of the remainder of her support favors Biden demographically. Without Warren in the race, Bernie would be getting his ass kicked just as hard in the best case and doing even worse otherwise.
Yep you've got to be incredibly privileged to be just fine with accepting 4 more years of Trump. That tells me you think you can probably ride it out till you get your perfect candidate and tough luck to the folks who can't.
Or it has far more to do with the fact that the youth really doesn't give a shit about voting; as a teacher, its the latter.
Yes he has. Don't confuse no one caring with it not being brought up. Literally no one cares about that stuff.
I may be exaggerating but I do feel that the youth are far too busy working too much to get out and vote. I feel this will be a serious issue in November too.
Biden winning when he has done pretty much zero campaigning. Winning from being a face and name people have heard and media pointing and saying "this guy".
Sounds more like Biden has to earn some votes and address some issues that are currently destroying communities and disadvantaged demographics. But calling that poster privileged is cool, I guess
The media was all in for Biden which is why he won so much without spending almost anything. That is all gone when he faces Trump. Trump will get the press and Biden will finally start getting attacked. I think it's going to be a circus and Trump is the most alluring clown. I think Biden loses very badly.
For some, there's still the potential of a brokered convention which in theory could make it anyone's game again.
The likelihood of this happening though is slim to none, especially given Biden's performance tonight.
Bloomberg's gotta see that his support is going to dwindle to next to nothing which the majority of the centrist vote now moving towards unifying behind Biden. Warren COULD drop out but there's potential that she's partially staying in to keep Bernie's vote total down, though in all reality assuming AT BEST 75% of Warren's voters are super progressives who would switch to Bernie, that still won't be enough to stop the combined campaigns of Joe, Pete, Klob, and Bloomberg, likely with Steyer's money getting thrown in as well.
Bernie's gonna try to stick it out as long as he can because he truly believes in his movement and the imperative of getting his platform into the mainstream. The issue of course will be what happens by the time it's clear Biden will be the nominee and how the DNC is going to convince a lot of disenfranchised progressives to want to come out and support a candidate who they don't view as a representation of everything that's wrong with today's political landscape: namely the hardline defense of the status quo with the promise of better things "soon/maybe/whenever we get around to it/not in the near future but we're getting there at some point/not gonna happen."
At best you're talking about a return to politics circa 2008-2012. Which frankly wasn't all that impressive and didn't do a whole lot to help the average American, save for a crippled out of the gate ACA. But now you'll have the added concern if you or someone you know is currently living on Medicare of Social Security assistance if suddenly those entitlements dropped or greatly reduced under either Trump who wants to gut it outright or Biden who'd salivate at the thought of using it as leverage to get something he wants from Republicans in the Senate.
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