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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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No it isn't. Look at the rest of the country, Bernie under preformed everywhere.
Then you ain't my Ally in this fight against the White supremacists in the oval office If you can sit back and watch the rest of us fight for our lives and not lift a finger to help in November?
I can care less what you do.
I like the cold, despite being a native Californian. Save me a spot in the lodge.
Can't wait to see who Trump replaces the next supreme court judge with.
What are the major issues?
Health care? They don't care. Doesn't impact them. The chance of them needing major hospitalization is rare.
At the end of the day, they are young. Work, party, have fun, entertainment, etc.
Whether Trump or Sanders win, is THEIR lives going to change very much? Probably not.
I mean what will change under Biden? He really has no obligation to enact anything progressive or anything. I personally don't think Biden is a for the people President as he is a for the corporations President, and clearly most corporations also see him that way.
Bernie is the only one with policies that would help me so he's the only one to get my vote, Biden is a return to the past, to the Obama era, and as a latino of low income that era was shit for me and my friends, highest deportation rates ever, current democrats approved the funding for Trumps concentration camps, and when people called them that they, having no affordable healthcare and a sister with schizophrenia that requires constant care is hard as hell. Its not about bernie or bust, its just that they haven't earned my vote, I really wish Biden was a better candidate so I could vote for him
Hillary was a massively popular public figure with the Democratic base that remained sharp as a tack. Biden slept his way to victory on a sliver of the fraction of the time and effort that Sanders and his supporters put in.
2008 Democratic primary turnout among this group in California was 16%. I couldn't find 2016 data quickly.
I find the way that Warren carries herself to be more appealing, I like how her plans are laid out and they feel more tangible and realistic than Bernie's, and I also feel that if it wasn't for an anti-female mindset, she'd be the most easily electable person since Obama in 2008.
Well yeah, sounds about right. Which is an issue a lot of Democrats have with Bernie lmao.
What has Biden done to earn their vote other than be Obama's VP?
it's the older black demo that are voting for his ass, not the younger. The issue isn't that black people aren't voting for Sanders, it's young people aren't voting.
Because this is a zero sum game and not voting for the Democrat is almost as bad as a vote for Trump. Trump is not better than Biden in any scenario. If your in a safe blue state, I guess do whatever, but if you're in a swing state you need to suck it to and vote Democrat no matter what. 4 more years of Trump could very well unravel democracy as we know it. The stakes could not be higher.
Maybe you have not been following the news because Trudeau is fucking trash.
No, but again, that demographic (white, middle income, college+, older Millennial+) was a Biden voter tonight.
I'm not apart of that demo, but I am a Warren voter that wouldn't have voted for Bernie in the primary. You can think someone has strong policies and a firm grasp on the socioeconomic injustices of America AND think that they might be a poor leader with questionable tastes.
After four years of reflection, both wings of the party haven't learned much from 2016. Moderates have convinced themselves a lifelong Washington insider with skeletons and an enthusiasm gap is the only way to stop Trump. Bernie's camp ran the same playbook, turned off potential allies with bad faith demagoguery and expected too much from the unreliable youth vote. Again.
Biden is unlikely to win the general. Unlike Sanders whose oppo is mostly inconsequential things Biden has been treated with kid gloves thorough the whole primary process and he has a ton of skeletons in his closet that have been just ignored.
I do give a shit about those people, which is WHY it's important to me that we beat Trump and I will vote for whoever is running against Trump in the general election. I would vote for an empty shoe or a piece of soggy dog shit if they were opposing Trump in the GE.
I just have no faith in Bernie and don't think he'd be an effective president. Why waste my primary vote on someone I don't like or believe in?
I know, but those deportation numbers are nothing to sneeze at.
Yes, it can take decades. Women didn't have the right to vote until 1920.
By the way Biden speaks highly of Republicans, not to mention his take down of Anita Hill, I wouldn't be surprised if he chose a conservative judge. If the Dems really cared about the judicial branch, they'd make a bigger deal of all the other nut jobs currently being sworn in as judges.
How about empathy for people not as privileged as you?
After the last four years and literally kids in cages, all I can do is SMH at people like you. Politics is work, and taking your ball and going home is not a serious position.
He hasn't done a whole lot but he does have a good relationship with leaders down there.
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Bros always finding someone to blame. Its never them, always outside forces.
your interests come above all others?
you're really OK with keeping those kids in their cages this november?
Have you even bothered to watch him? And lol, one candidate here had a heart attack.
Anecdotally, this seems to be the norm tonight. Will be interesting to dive into this more fully later.Embarrassing.
And you're eating based on whatever the group's choice is.
That's the thing about government, even if you abstain, you eat the same food. At least by voting you have some effect on the output.
I'm not about making anyone vote, but that's the reality. Don't vote, vote, you suck down the same shit.
My political views match up closely with Bernie's aside from my preference for stricter gun control and I haven't considered him as a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice since the beginning of the cycle. I don't find his intransigence charming and I think he's overhyped as a coalition builder.
So clearly the person with the least agency in the situation is the most at fault.
Excuse me, but some of us here have all our roots planted in the South.
What happened in 2016? I remember Bernie supporters by a large majority holding their nose and voting for Hillary regardless in the GE. Unless you want to proffer some revisionist history?
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