Her and Bloomberg both need to step aside and let Biden and Bernie duke it out..
MSNBC just called MA.
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MSNBC just called MA.
I can respect that. I think the right Democratic candidate would be able to flip the senate and enact Bernie's agenda. But unfortunately for us, the right candidate isn't a man.
So it's down to Bernie and Biden to flip the Senate with the power of their strongest demographics.
If it's between the youth vote or the African American vote, it's hard to put faith in the former.
Even somebody as boring as John Kasich won his home state in 2016. I don't know what she's doing.
I know he was governor, so it's not 100% the same, but it still looks fucking awful.
Yup, WaPo was just saying that Biden basically sucked up votes from Warren in Mass.
People in America hiiiiiighly value their liberties. Sanders represents the expansion of government and the loss of control for individuals. There's also a lot of people who didn't care for how unrealistic his full platform was.
Some of this is basic, universal human psychology:
Humans heavily overvalue potential loss over new benefits.
There is a portion of the population who are psychologically wired to accept and drive for rapid change, at the expense of details or repercussions. There is another portion that need carefully laid out plans to accept change. Neither side is wrong, yet these groups often clash with each other. A candidate generally needs to understand and bridge both these groups to be successful.
I agree.
Based on how Biden is performing tonight Trump is mega fucked.
returning to the status quo is all a *huge* amount of people want
this is pure speculation but i think it you asked an average biden supporter if they would go back to george w bush instead of trump the majority would say yes because it was normal and comfortable
That meme is actually being used by leftist online to brag about their supposed power. And it's being showed here to argue they shot themselves in the foot by being that sanguine against the candidates.
I really can't stress enough that, from a purely data-driven view, today is the best evidence we have that we are beating Trump in November.
Yep he will.
He'll be permanently connected to a life support system or something, but the GOP will nominate him again.
I think we have Hillary and the notion that it's her "turn" to thank for that.
As much as I love the guy, even Obama
pressured Biden to not run in 2016 because of this notion that Hillary is entitled to the presidency.
Va. for sure since they are 100% reporting, Alabama probably will overtake as the biggest blowout
Bernie is in the mid 20's most other places Biden is projected (besides Minn)
I think Biden would fare worse than Bernie, but this does make me feel better. Enough people just want Trump out, so here's hoping they tune out all the bullshit and keep their eye on the prize. The one good thing about yesterday was the clear desire to focus on utter destruction in the electorate. Here's hoping they keep it up in the general, and if Biden gets the nomination, here's hoping Bernie, Warren and Bloomberg join in the march to routing the Republicans.
Congrats on backing a pro-Saudi who was in bed with segregationists!
If you're just removing him but not repealing or significantly changing the things he's already done, then you're running for the status quo.
The amount of doomsaying and pessimism in this thread is making ME blush.
And y'all know me.
that meme has always been incredibly tongue in cheek. even that screenshot is from last november
You people losing your minds tonight about Biden need to get the fuck over it come november. In no universe is it worth it to not vote for whoever is the Democrat on the ballot. Fucking seriously, the last 3 years have been a nightmare so don't sit there and act like it's fine to just not vote because your ideal candidate isnt on there. It will only get worse if Trump gets a 2nd term.
One side is absolutely wrong since they are directly contributing to the suffering of millions and inevitable death of the planet.
The point is that Bernie's brand of progressivism is insufficient and myopic. It's better than the status quo, which is enough for me to support his Presidential aspirations if indeed he won the nomination. But the reason he keeps getting dogwalked in these races is because there is not a large enough coalition built to be sustainable nationwide.
But maybe it's just a coincidence that the only statea Bernie has won so far other than Nevada have been the whitest states in America. (Probably doesn't help that they're also among the first to vote, too.)
The college educated and the youth are the backbone of the current progressive movement. There is opportunity to grow those blocs into consistent and lifelong voters, but there needs to be a message beyond classism to capture other demographics. Because you need them to win general elections.
Only way to make progressivism viable for the country is to make it become the moderate view, and that requires entrenched progressive Congress seats, governors, and local coalitions.
Trump and Biden just coasting on Obama's legacy (Trump via Obama's economy).
No, for sure, the candidates need to over-prepare. But people debating the issues like us can be more realistic. Trump got destroyed in 2016, though I think that Clinton is a very effective debater. It just didn't matter.
Debates are one of those things people pretend matter, but they really don't. Clinton decisively won every debate against Trump in 2016, all of the opinion polls agreed, but she lost the election. Today is a great example. Does anybody here think that Biden performed well in any Democratic debate? Of course not, he didn't, and yet he's over-performing tonight.
I think a lot of people are just tired of talking about politics and want it to go back to something boring and sane.
This has always been Bernie's Achilles heel. It's what most of us have been arguing since the beginning of the primary... They're just not reliable voters
Do yall really need another reason to show how stupid Americans are lol
One possible candidate that ive heard is yang. Which would make biden a bit more easy to swallow for me.
One possible candidate that ive heard is yang. Which would make biden a bit more easy to swallow for me.
Cali will probably get called for Bernie before the end of the night, but the delegate shifts might take a bit
Matt. Matt please tell me how Joe biden is more progressive than barack obama. I want to know so badly
I take it you are too young to remember when Bush jr was reelected?
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