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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Are we really trying to primary one of the most progressive members of the Senate because she didn't drop out to help Bernie?
If he can't win without her help he was never going to win anyhow.
What if the Centrist media didn't purposefully misrepresent Bernie, push false narratives or erase his momentum at times throughout the last two primaries? Millions of viewers absorb that.
Nope, I think that's a bad read.
It's obviously because they're worried about a shadow Nintendo Direct.
Let's hope it works. Especially when Trump's gonna be screaming about Burisma nonstop this summer
I understand all that. Youre a person who sticks to their morals no matter what. But reality is a thing. And in reality, the Supreme Court exists.
Tonight may be one of the greatest political comebacks in any primary ever. Thank you Jim Clyburn, South Carolina, suburbanites, and black people for making this possible.
I'm assuming at the age you have a job where you can actually afford to take time off work.
Thank you for your reassurances. Incrementalism is frustrating however and I do not think it is something we need. The right have swung the pendulum too far to the right, and I say we need to swing it back hard to the left to find a balance. A moderate isn't enough to stop this. If the nation goes with Biden, then this battle will take longer. And not everyone has that much time.
I don't think Sanders was interested in courting moderates, but that's a take.
Indeed. I don't like it, but numbers don't lie. Kinda disappointed he didn't improve in the south after messing up there in 2016.
Taking this train all the way to Milwaukee, baby!!!
(I don't know, we'll find out I guess)
As for the putting-the-old-sweater-back-on analogy, earlier today I was telling someone I used to work with that I don't think it's possible to do that. It's just been made too plain to too many people that the old sweater no longer fits, is itchy, and is kinda ugly. Too many people have seen that government is useful and necessary and not something to be crumpled up and tossed away. All the state-level conservative taxation and funding experiments have been exposed as failures. The robots aren't coming to take our jobs. With all the support from Biden beginning to come from Obama-era officials, it won't be possible to go "back to Obama" either.
So in early 2021 there will be some people who will be agitated about this, like Chris Matthews got about Bernie, but it will pass and a new congress (with Senate) will get to work and the President will sign that backlog of legislation, and then some.
I mean people realize this is likely the package that comes with Biden correct?
Gabbard is going to pounce on the disgruntled base and very likely run third party to try and split the Democratic vote.
Be prepared for the possibility of Gabbard pounding home that the Democratic establishment colluded to keep Bernie from the nomination, and the problem is she won't be wrong.
Trump will be hitting him with fake sexual assault pictures, Hunter Biden propaganda, and the MSM will play right into all the theater while Joe will fumble to November. This is going to be a shitshow.
With the states coming up anything besides a 150 delegate lead tonight is not good news though for Sanders.
NBC just interviewed a woman in line at a TX polling place who is minutes from voting...
...and doesn't know who she will vote for yet!
...and doesn't know who she will vote for yet!
I was mixed on Bloomberg under-performing in the first place!
But could Bernie have attracted the black older voters? I don't see how.
I don't believe in AOC's ability to not generate the exact same kind of following that Bernie currently has, with all the anger and irrational thinking packaged together. That's why I think we're screwed if she ends up the next Bernie.
So Biden is going to pick up most of the states Hillary won in the '16 primary....hopefully he shows up in Wisconsin, Michigan, etc.
The issues are way overblown here from when the attacks came. Most of his early lack of POC vote was from not knowing who he was, though the media is definitely a self-fulling prophecy. His Douglass plan has been praised by even the farthest of left sources, despite not fulfilling all the issues, clearly. People love Joe, and all I'm saying is that if Pete becomes part of his cabinet, he will have a chance to show his progressive values and hopefully lead the Democrats to where we see our country going. Give Pete some years to get experience in the country and people will start to warm up to him.
I guess Moderates fall in line? Progressives fall in love. Warren voters could've easily abandoned her but they didn't even though she's no longer viable.
And that I think there was a significant amount of the population that just didn't like/hated Hillary
Really does look like a lot of Sander's support in 2016 was more "Never-Clinton" than anything else...
I can certainly see that. Creepy Uncle Joe is a thing for a reason.
I've just prosecuted rapes and I've also been (mildly) sexually assaulted, so I'm precise in my use of the term.
When she gets sworn in as VP. I can't recall if MA has a special election or if it's an appointment though.
That's on him then. Don't fucking blame anyone else (not directed at you)
Bernie's reframing of issues is something I'll be eternally grateful for. Still, tonight is only discouraging at the start. It's not over yet.
If its Biden vs trump and trump wins. I want every Democrat that wanted this to fuck off into oblivion. I'm getting sick and tired of old people
I turn into a utilitarian when I step into the booth so yeah I'd vote for em. I dislike the idea of Biden as president vs Sanders but it's better than Trump.
Warren should be in a cabinet position. Being a VP is a waste of her talents. If Biden wants a woman VP he should find someone who isn't qualified to run an entire federal agency.
People blaming Warren are acting stupid. Look at her numbers. Even if Bernie were to theoretically gain all of Warren's support, he'd still get blown out. Losing AA by >60% and older voters by >50% are far more pressing issues for Bernie than the few Warren votes he ain't getting.
Most Democratic voters are savvy enough or experienced with political history enough to realize that the president has about a 0% chance of passing M4A this term, so it doesn't really matter that much.
she prob just didn't want to tell people who she wants to vote for
that happens more than you'd think
Even if this was true, absolutely zero progress will be made if Trump is reelected. If Bernie wins the nomination then we can talk, but how is he supposed to beat Trump if Biden clobbers him on Super Tuesday? He needs the youth turnout that doesn't seem to ever come.
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