it turns out that the progress that moderates wanted was a literate president. ha, silly me wanting people to have healthcare.
Biden is listed first. Sanders is on the next page you press a button to access.
www.politifact.com
Figured, thanks for the answers, dudes.
I am a Warren supporter that voted for Bernie I'm VA today. I also follow a lot of progressives on twitter and the amount of shit Warrens been getting for the last 2 weeks is super off putting. There is def a dedicated contingent of Bernie fans that are toxicI've held off on really supporting a candidate because I didn't want to drive a wedge between Democrats like what happened in 2016, paving the way for Trump. I support Warren the most -- she's one of my senators, she's run a great campaign, she's an amazing human being, great communicator, and I think she'd be an excellent president -- but I'd honestly support any Democratic nominee with bells on to beat Donald Trump. But the hyperbolic bull shit attacks on every candidate in the primary, largely coming from one camp, have totally distanced me from Sanders in the primary.
This morning, I woke up to read my twitter feed before going to vote in my primary and so much shit like this was bubbling up on my feed attacking Warren for not dropping out of the race before Super Tuesday:
What's sad is that Sanders himself does not share this sort of vitriol, but for whatever reason, a huge, noteworthy percentage of his loudest internet base does. You saw similar attacks on so-called "Copmala Harris," "The Rat Pete Buttigieg," and down and down the list of opponents, and it's just like ... wtf is wrong with a vocal sector of this base? I also get that there's attacks on Sanders as well from Biden or Warren supporters, but the ratio of them seems way, way skewed. There were similar attacks on Warren and her supporters after the New Hampshire primary when it was clear that they split their vote away from Warren and didn't go to Sanders, but split among multiple candidates (with Pete getting a surge). A Sanders supporter here during the NH primary night made a comment that "it's clear Warren supporters will just vote for any woman even if it's Whoopie GOldberg," or some assinine comment like that, and I was like ... wtf is wrong with you. It's not representative of Sanders' overall base, who is made up of hardworking people who want more social and economic justice in this country, but the loud, over-represented minority of this base has isolated me from his campaign, even though ideologically he's much closer to my ideal candidates than someone like Joe Biden.
Yep. "Polls start closing at 7 p.m. Eastern, in Vermont, Virginia and parts of Alabama. We should start getting results soon after that, and the first call of the night will probably be Vermont - for Bernie..." NYT
They were forced to abandon their labor-based approach to coalition building because the WWC was no longer willing to vote for Democrats. This is the same reason Corbyn's attempt at going all in on flipping ancestral Labour->Tory seats while ignoring suburban Tory->Labour seats blew up in his face. It's not that the party hasn't been trying to reach out to those voters, it's that those voters don't want what the party is selling regardless of the economic message because their issue with the party isn't about economics.
Debates in general tend to be pointless outside of a few occasions (such as the GOP 2016 ones) because most people comes out of debates with the same views they had coming in. At this point, it's all theatre meant to rile up your base. It's the one thing Trump gets in that degenerating lizard brain of his, and it's something both the broader GOP and the Dems need to catch up on.
Dig up dirt on Biden or scare Americans into a socialism scare. Which one will worry Americans more. Dirt no longer looks bad because it will never amount to Trump dirt.
Both represent two different things
I understand. I'm saying that his presidential ambitions would be more successful if he was a full time, fully committed Dem.
Yeah you don't drop 500m just to drop out like this. He's staying to the end for his Brokered convention plan.
Dirt would most certainly depress voter turnout. I will take my chances with a "socialism scare" than voting for a racist groper whose views of race are stuck in the 80s.
Caucuses are VERY different from primaries. I wouldn't ignore the shift in polls.
You have to look at a lot of things here in perspective, there are some real finge ideas just thrown around like everyone agrees with them
"oh my god, you guys are passionate about a candidate that wants to give health care to your friends and family who suffer because they cant afford health care? that reminds me of the same passion as trump voters"
yeah stop pointing out the bad things biden has done. only point out the bad things bernie has done.
It's all public, so the GOP already has this sort of stuff in hand ready to use. If Biden wants people to be confident that voting for him will mean a W in Nov, he and the people near him need to look at this stuff and see what the smartest ways to combat it or work around it are.
Lol you've got to be kidding me if you don't think that they're going to label Biden as a radical leftist in the general election. Remember Hillary Clinton and her radical far-left agenda?
You really want to see the next debate be Bloomberg and Biden taking shot after shot after shot at Bernie with no cover?
One of Carter's main reasons behind his defeat was how Reagan murdered him on stage
