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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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I mean did you expect Amy and Pete to endorse Sanders? The dude has spent the last 4 years rallying against the political establishment and running to the left of the party, of course the party establishment is going to prefer Biden lol
No matter who wins, I feel like the future of the Supreme Court should be the #1 messaging priority. It overcomes divisions within the party more than anything else, I think.
There are several huge cases that will be decided in June that could provide the opportunity to do that.
There are several huge cases that will be decided in June that could provide the opportunity to do that.
We kinda have a ticking time bomb in climate change so I'm not even sure if young people will have the time to grow old lol
They all kept quiet when she kept saying and doing incredibly stupid shit like defending her association Weinstein (???)
But how is that different from what you are doing say it wont happen?
Were all just kind of speculating here at the end of the day.
oh it's entirely expected, but still disappointing to see how adverse the dem party is to progress.
Nah, this ain't it.
People freaking out about the primary being rigged and the party stealing a nomination from Bernie if he has a delegate lead at the moment is quite ridiculous though.
But why? Be more worried about Bernie not getting the most votes. This preoccupation with the DNC screwing him over is fucking bizarre. He may yet lose to joe Biden
I've said I don't think it will happen. I've also said I could be wrong.
Either way, I find it incredibly unproductive to spend time complaining about the future assured theft of an election when it hasn't even been won yet.
I think this is the major issue people are having. None of this is terribly surprising but its one thing to have the idea as a pessimist and another watching it play out in real time.
I think preparing ourselves for the possibility is important. I agree saying its going to happen as an absolute certainty is a bit too far. But there is good reason to discuss it right now, especially with the number of people coming out and organizing to stop Bernie the past few days.
I inverted nothing. Biden was bigoted in his opinion on gay marriage until he wasn't, which was during a reelection campaign for vice President, an unprecedented political decision. I also acknowledged that Sanders voiced his support before Biden, but that does not necessarily place him into a position of moral superiority on the matter just by itself, at least politically speaking. That was the extent of my position.
Ah, true, thank you for the correction. Change the "you" to "they" than.
I think some of them think Biden is the best candidate and some of them are just want to stop Bernie. And i think both trains of thought are incredibly foolish.
Remember how we all joked...
Yeah, people came up with moderate voltron as a joke, not the end boss
Ironically we may not even get a brokered convention if Bloomberg drops out before the convention, not something I ever considered possible with the money he's spent, but its possible he gained faith in Biden and will divert his resources to him instead.
Neutral Milk Hotel's Jeff Mangum comes out of online isolation to endorse Bernie Sanders
'bernie is punk,' reads the subject line.www.dailydot.com
Jeff is in too.
fuck yes
if you thought today was wild, tomorrow'll knock your socks off!
If you find yourself getting frustrated with the institutional Democratic party antics (and there is plenty to be frustrated about!), I recommend donating, signing up for phone/text banking, canvassing, or helping out the many groups that are aligned around the progressive issues you care about.
The anger is valid, and there's always the frustration of "why do we have to fight the supposed "left-wing" party so hard for basic needs??", but that anger can be harnessed. Obama said "Don't boo, vote!" when what he should actually have said is "boo, vote, donate, canvass, protest, strike!"
I've always felt that the primary would be Bernie's toughest race, because he has to hold back his criticisms of other candidates and not risk losing their supporters (and people still accuse him of being "too harsh" on the party, even though *gestures at Biden's entire policy history* there's a ton he could hit him on), but if he can get to the general election, he doesn't have to hold back against Trump, and he's far more likely to go the fuck in on him.
So yeah, as Bernie always says, Not Me (and clearly, not the Democratic Party power structure), but Us (regular ass people who are struggling and need major change).
The anger is valid, and there's always the frustration of "why do we have to fight the supposed "left-wing" party so hard for basic needs??", but that anger can be harnessed. Obama said "Don't boo, vote!" when what he should actually have said is "boo, vote, donate, canvass, protest, strike!"
I've always felt that the primary would be Bernie's toughest race, because he has to hold back his criticisms of other candidates and not risk losing their supporters (and people still accuse him of being "too harsh" on the party, even though *gestures at Biden's entire policy history* there's a ton he could hit him on), but if he can get to the general election, he doesn't have to hold back against Trump, and he's far more likely to go the fuck in on him.
So yeah, as Bernie always says, Not Me (and clearly, not the Democratic Party power structure), but Us (regular ass people who are struggling and need major change).
This this this and this again. Bernie has consistently failed to prove that his "revolution" will turn out enough votes to offset the ones he will lose by just being him and when the media attacks are solely focused on him. Forgive me if I don't want to bet the next 4 years on the idea that Bernie Sanders will turn out more voters in a GE. I straight up don't believe it because one young voters are completely unreliable, they only show up for presidential contests and two Bernie hasn't shown me that he is turning out voters in historic numbers bar in caucuses which we all know have their problems. The fact that it's this close with Biden straight up tells me that he's not some legendary politician. This is against a very out of form Biden.
nothing has really changed other then the window for a clean win is now descisively closed
Biden is surging at the right time but he was always gonna get an SC bump considering how much his strategy was staked on it
the cuba stuff might have swung a few points nationally but it's been a busy week
either the difference on the ground will show up or it wont
Biden is surging at the right time but he was always gonna get an SC bump considering how much his strategy was staked on it
the cuba stuff might have swung a few points nationally but it's been a busy week
either the difference on the ground will show up or it wont
If the field shrinking is bad for Sanders, then he was never in good shape to begin with.
I don't believe it is bad for him, I think it's quite good. The benefits of a shrinking field plus the perception he will have as the reason they dropped out is far more valuable to him than these endorsements, which don't have much value because:
1) Endorsements like these don't really move the needle much, people make up their own minds
2) Klobuchar and Buttigieg weren't popular enough to find success which means they aren't going to be popular enough to move the needle.
Stop seeing this through a fatalistic, defeatist lens. This is what it looks like when your candidate is winning. It should feel like it's getting harder and as you get closer, your opposition should become more unified and solidified. That's how it works. It's up to Sanders and his ability to build a winning coalition. If he can't do it in the primary, then he can't do it in a general.
Biden wasn't going out on a limb there. He was privately for gay marriage, but do you know what he told his gay friends about why he wouldn't go public with it? That the public wasn't there yet. When he changed his mind publicly, polling on gay marriage had already gone way up. He wasn't in the way, but he sure as hell wasn't a pioneer that put his career at risk for it.
4/50.
This is like when NBA-era calls a game before the first quarter is even finished. Only this time their preferred winner is actually ahead at the time.
It is perfectly reasonable and appropriate to discuss and prepare for potential future scenarios, especially when you have stuff like the NYT article coming out where a large number of superdelegates made it very clear on the record that they will try to prevent Sanders from being the nominee even if he has a plurality at the convention
I feel for the notifications you are going to get for people quoting this post, but you are right
I don't think it's "rigged" in the sense of "fixed", I think it's "rigged" in that the worst elements and interests of the party have an outsized influence and ability to box out, delegitimize, and defang the actually good elements of the party. Whether they do that for reasons of selfish self-interest or misguided beliefs about what is or is not practicable is immaterial to the fact that they are the primary obstacles at this present moment to my civilization maybe having a chance to repair itself before things get catastrophically bad, and them being ripped out of the party down to the roots, or the party burning down and a new one being built from scratch like the Republicans in the 1850s, is my primary political concern right now.
The elderly. South Carolina has an aging population and my understanding is that they overwhelmingly voted for Biden.
Democrats have won the popular vote in 6 out of the last 7 presidential elections.
In what fucking world is that not competency at getting results?
Sorry in advance for the attacks you're going to get for this comment.
The thing they try ever single time is asking people to vote for the person they think should be the nominee. What should they do differently?
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