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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Do you really think a Biden admin would enact any significant environmental policies if they negatively impact corporate interests, which, by necessity, they must?
Bernie can win against Biden 1vs1 but it would take Warren to drop out too and good debates.
Buttigieg and Klobuchar Endorse Biden, Aiming to Slow Sanders (Published 2020)
In a swift turn of events, Mr. Buttigieg and Ms. Klobuchar quit the presidential race and endorsed Mr. Biden on the eve of Super Tuesday to try to boost him against the liberal front-runner, Mr. Sanders.
Fuck
Are you going to bother to talk about the guy's corruption or is this the hug zone where you don't even try to dispute the facts and just push everything related to Trump down?
This is absolutely going to be used during the election to paint both sides as the same. How does Biden have the moral ground here if he can't deflect or prove it to be wrong. This is the problem with the Democrats, they talk big about shit like fair elections then can't get the Iowa election down properly because of internal self dealing. This talk starts to fall flat when someone who got fucked by an unfair election, Stacey Abrams, takes $5 million from Bloomberg and defends him literally buying mayors, operatives and politicians.
They might be Republican talking points but when there's actual truth in them maybe it's time to be self reflective.
He'll have a much better chance now that there are less candidates on stage.
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Fuck it. If Biden becomes the nomination, I hope Trump wins. Perhaps at the end of next 4 years, whatever "status quo" would be perceived as then as the overton window would inevitably slide further right, won't be good enough. Perhaps enough people need to go to medical bankruptcy so that we don't have old pieces of putrid meat telling young people about "choices" in medical insurance.
Empathy, fucking empathy is the ultimate teacher and once americans are again put through the fucking ringer of right wing gaslighting, bigotry, white nationalism, destruction of ecosystems, anti-science domination, pro-life dominance etc, perhaps then americans will tear down the degenerate DNC and their "status quo".
Fuck DNC, Fuck Trump, Fuck racist, bigoted moderates.
Well no one cares about Tulsi, Bloomberg staying in changes things.
Not the worst idea. Anecdotal, but Pete always seemed to have a lot more energetic followers than Biden.
To be fair Bernie hasn't gone 1 to 1 with Biden in a debate yet.
He was never going to drop out, the money spend it's nothing to him, with how badly he has done in post debate polls, he has no chance unless someone drops out and endorses him.
why doesn't Bernie?
it's politics.
They are all playing the same game.
The first step is progressives not becoming Trump parrots. Once we accomplish that, stoping the spread of FUD will be all the easier.
I think empathy is realizing Biden is a much better candidate than Trump if it comes down to that.
If the plan is to campaign to get the white suburbs to vote Biden, my hunch is if Biden loses, they will blame Bernie more than the white suburbs.
The party is making a choice on who they feel has a better chance at being elected. If Bernie was the nom, I highly doubt they would get really mad at the white suburbs if he lost in the general. But they sure as hell are going to lay all the blame on the horrible left.
The party is making a choice on who they feel has a better chance at being elected. If Bernie was the nom, I highly doubt they would get really mad at the white suburbs if he lost in the general. But they sure as hell are going to lay all the blame on the horrible left.
based on the fact that Biden needs the support and is clearly the candidate the party would rather have and is the most viable alternative to Sanders and super tuesday is tomorrow. this isn't some CrAzYYyy SanDErs SuPpOrtER conspiracy from 2016. It's an extremely mild idea of what may have happened that insults no one. I expected the response to be "well that's one idea" or something like that. Not, "FUCK OFF WITH THIS INSANE BULLSHIT"
Its so progressive of you to wish poeple to suffer if you dont get your way.
why would tulsi qualify for the next debate when she hasn't qualified for a debate in months?
bad post my friend, bad post. like real "leftists hate liberals more than fascists" vibes.
Yeah, definitely that too. There's a lot of circumstances that go into a presidential election and boiling it down to "Well we nominated a moderate (whatever that really means) and they lost" is just dumb.
even then his campaign was so fucking disgusting that it might as well be cheating
You could label that at moderates when they say things like "Bernie! How could you praise Castro" or "People like their insurance" or "single payer health care isn't possible."
I mean, you don't seem to be very empathetic for the voters whose agency you are completely discounting.
If Bernie gets the most votes, he will win. If he does not, he wont win. That's as it should be.
If it didn't happen in 4 years it isn't happening in another 4. All that's gonna happen is this country is gonna get immeasurably worse if Trump wins. Let's not do that.
Ah yes, the front runner who won popular votes in the primary whould just give it to the person in fourth place lol
The 10-20 percent Bloomberg is polling aren't going to go to Bernie...
Your boogie man DNC didn't do jack shit here.
And how about some empathy with your hope that Trump wins. Instead of a bit of progress (Biden is for expanding healthcare, lowering costs for schooling, raising minimum wage, combating climate change, and justice system reform) you get more kids in cages, constant crime, and backsliding of that same healthcare system, bigotry, white nationalism, etc etc. There's your hope.
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Here's all you need to get started. I know that it's scary to reach out to people like this with cold calls, but it's fun and easy once you actually get in there. This is how we win and we need to do this TODAY. If you've been waiting around to get involved NOW IS THE TIME.
Do what you can now or you'll regret it later. Good luck and happy calling!
I told my mom and shes gonna do it. Im deaf but I can help her with the computer part of it.
Previous rules were if a candidate gets 1 delegate in the contests before the debate they qualify. The 1 contest nobody talks about for this Tuesday is in the American Samoa.
...but it's also ignoring the much simpler explanation:
They endorsed the person closet to them ideologically, just like Bernie supporters want Warren to do.
What's the difference?
If trump wins what will happen is the SC will be lost for decades, lower courts will be stacked as well, countless more regulations rolled back, maybe a war or 2.
Yes but all the apathetic americans that don't care about that stuff and don't vote would suddenly care about that stuff and vote this time! Because, reasons.
And ultimately, I think it's worth it. The PPACA gets more popular every year, despite Republicans on every level denying its expansion and handicapping it however they can. It's grown the appetite for true single payer legislation, a considering Obama theorized down the line. The underlying argument that healthcare is a human right that should be protected - however possible - by the government was the goal, and he more or less got that message across.
I'm confused about your position here. Do you not believe Pete and Amy's actions represent a coordinated effort to rally around Biden? They both just happened to do this between SC and Super Tuesday?
For the record I don't believe this constitutes a grand conspiracy or diabolical corruption. It's just the party doing what people have been telling them to do and coalescing around a Bernie challenger.
I'm not ignoring that, I just believe slightly more in what I wrote based on the timing. It's not a big deal and shouldn't stress anyone out. it's literally nothing.
I don't think so, but I also don't really think it matters.
First, Trump might just not agree to debate at all. He'll say that the debates are unfair and he won't debate on any of the networks because they're fake news. Trump has a lot to lose in a debate. He doesn't even give interviews to the moderate press, so I'd have a hard time thinking he'd put himself out there to be vulnerable.
Second, the immediate reactions following every debate Trump had with Clinton had people thinking that he lost:
- Debate #1: 62% believed Clinton won, compared to 27% for Trump
- Debate #2: 42% of respondents considered Clinton the winner of the debate, while 28% considered Trump the winner, and a slightly higher percentage (30%) were undecided
- Debate #3: 43% of respondents considered Clinton the winner of the debate, with 26% saying Trump.
Third, though, and importantly, debate performance isn't seen as being very significant. A poll shortly after a debate might spike up, but then generally fall back down. Voters have short memories. Nate Silver repeatedly says that debates show almost no difference in poll numbers after a few days.
Even given all of these things, I don't think that Biden would be a bad debate against Trump. I think Sanders and Warren would be better. My dream is to see Warren go after Trump in a debate like she did Bloomberg. Bloomberg would probably be the worst. Biden looks worse against excellent debaters like Warren or very polished communicators like Buttigieg, or aggressive questioners like Klobochar where Warren and Klobuchar are both experienced lawyers. Trump is none of those things. He struggles to make coherent sentences at rallies and Fox has had to cut away from his speeches at rallies because of how incoherent they are. He's though tto have lost every debate in 2016, and Trump has only become more senile since then.
And this is why Bernie shouldn't have run again.
People like you make Russia's job so much easier.
They can take your post and copy/paste it on social media and that's how you get 4 more years of Trump.
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