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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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Funny, I live in Houston, Texas for the moment. The poverty rate and the homeless situation is in no way defensible. By every metric it is worse here.
You talk about debt, I drive on crumbling infrastructure and across a vital interstate bridge every day for work that has been in emergency repair for 15 months out of the last two years. Just had a boil water alert due to a water line explosion that drowned part of the city. All in large part because the state government is too busy handing out subsidies to thriving businesses than investing back into their communities and infrastructure. Gun laws that help be amongst the leaders in the nation in gun deaths
Enviorenemtnal state laws catered to attract poisonous and near unaccountable businesses that are literally killing their inhabitants and paying nothing for the privilege. Either by the annual plant explosions due to decay and poor management, or the slow death of poorly regulated plants that pump toxic chemicals into the air. The cities these plants reside in are often dumps, because the people work there know not to live there and those that live there are essentially subsidizing the businesses on false promises that the crumbling cities prove the lies. With local papers so scared to report that there were deaths that went unreported recently because Exxon applied a heavy hand.
I see an oil and gas industry driven by turnarounds plagued with working standards almost fit for third world countries. 12 hour days, 6-7 days a week, 30 minute lunch breaks. 2 hour commutes, no job security because of right to work laws, little to no retirement funds, healthcare that is unusable because workers have to jump companies as projects close out and start over on deductibles. But there you are talking about the horrors of Democrats and massaging your union pension and healthcare that would be near impossible in Texas unless you found the rare liberal minded organization willing to sacrifice their cold selfish interests for yours.
Education that pushes the rich to expensive private schools to avoid underfunded public ones or flee to suburbs. Leaving middle class people like yourself scrambling to come up with tens of thousands of dollars a year on top of your taxes to access better schools and by extension support re-segregation efforts.
You can try and play the democratic city card but Texas Republicans make sure to punish those cities with state level laws bending them to their will.
....And as an aside, I would love for you to look into how the so called "free market" played out with Houston energy. That's a fun wake up call to the ugly side of unregulated capitalism. Most people paying more for energy because left to their devices companies created shell companies and colluded to create a near impossibly complex layer of confusion for consumers that locks people into time bomb contract and often gouges many customers with hidden fees unless you are an absolute savvy customer with the time to wade the complex legalese designed to trick you.
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Hmm? Sanders established a precedent to stay in the race long after it's possible to win it and I don't see why other candidates shouldn't be allowed to do that in 2020.
This doesn't really work when there's a candidate further to the left than her who she is actively hurting by staying in the race, but okay
You don't understand that she's the last female candidate who is even statistically registering as having any chance at all?
I mean, even putting that aside, the two biggest issues with California are - .
1.) Housing - which is being stopped from being built in middle class SFH zones by suburban NIMBY's
2.) Prop 13 - a right-wing backed proposal that makes it basically impossibly to fund social services correctly.
The other truth is, it's much better to be a poor person in California than basically 80% of the United States, even if it's still quite shitty.
Question: are you planning on voting Trump in november? are there any candidates out of this field that you would consider voting for? any you would 100% swear off?
Yeah, he did better than he did in 2016 by about 10,000 votes. His share of the vote is worse though.
I'd like this narrative to stop in here that Warren is only staying in the fight to cause trouble or be manipulative of the process.
There are a lot of Warren backers. We want her to continue, and we want her to win. That's why she's staying in. Because she persists. It's dismissive of her and the people that back her to suggest otherwise.
There are a lot of Warren backers. We want her to continue, and we want her to win. That's why she's staying in. Because she persists. It's dismissive of her and the people that back her to suggest otherwise.
my guess is that warren stans like warren and want her to be president
Klobuchar might actually win a state, and they're equal in 538's mode (ie 0), so really Klobuchar is the one might leave this primary with a W
For Biden: Sanders. Only because it'll kill whatever dems-hate-Sanders-part-2 nonsense Trump and Putin have lined up. Two old guys isn't the best strategy, but it's decent for the more immediate mission of defeating Donald Trump. Also Trump and Pence don't want Sanders sticking around with dem ticket media attention.
For Sanders: Warren. Even after all this. I remain convinced that he's not going after her because he still wants to be able to have that potential card to play. Lucky for her Sanders would be able to undo a lot (all?) of this self-inflicted damage she's done.
Honestly? Probably. I could actually see her drop if she loses her own state. Whatever strategy she thinks she has, even if it's strictly to hurt Bernie, goes up in smoke if Sanders beats her in her state.
I think she thinks she's going to be the kingmaker. I think she's going to be really disappointed if she sticks around and all the moderates pick one person and her choice doesn't really matter.
This is a good post if you ignore the comments from her and her campaign literally stating otherwise.
Okay so I can see Biden winning SC helping him with NC, but I do not think it will help him in Texas of CA. What do others think?
She's allowed, as long as people keep sending her money to burn, she's staying in.
Whether or not that's a good move politically, who knows? Maybe she'll come back in 4 years as a frontrunner like bernie did. Completing the Sanders style homage.
California is the most populated state in the country, why wouldn't it have the worst debt? Using counting stats for this instead of debt as a share of personal income % is pretty silly man. You should look at this statistic which will show Republican states like Mississippi in the mix.
Also I'm not sure how you're judging 'most dem states' but places like Massachusetts certainly would be up there anyway.
OK, I have to ask this, because I've been curious for a while. Those of you in this thread quoting Marx (whom I've read, although it's also been a while; but I also have a MSc in economic policy and a couple of law degrees, which are proxy enough to avoid historical idiocy): what is your end-state?
I know that samoyed and I touched on this in a thread a long, long time ago, but I was remiss in following up.
Is this more about correcting the imbalance of political power but still adhering to the U.S.' constitutional republic system? I can visualize a social democratic republic here.
Or maybe I'm just taking the references and memes the wrong way entirely.
I know that samoyed and I touched on this in a thread a long, long time ago, but I was remiss in following up.
Is this more about correcting the imbalance of political power but still adhering to the U.S.' constitutional republic system? I can visualize a social democratic republic here.
Or maybe I'm just taking the references and memes the wrong way entirely.
She is no Hillary.
Hillary won the popular vote in the general.
Liz can't even win her home state primary
Yah because Warren is a pure angel with nothing but the greatest intentions and not, you know, a politician
California is the most populous state in the union. Naturally they're going to have more homeless. Both Texas and California's major metro areas are primarily governed by democratic administrations yet one has fewer homeless. Citing people in need as an example of poor governing isn't that simple and you need to dig down further to find the root cause. NIMBYism is a huge one in California and has driven people to the streets far more than some singular democratic government. Texas is blessed with a huge amount of wealth through energy and banking and ten million less residents. So ultimately if you want to know why things are the way they are you should do the research and not fall back on "well there are poor people here so it must be jerry browns doing"
I'm not being glib either, I'm simply trying to explain the problems are more complex than you seem to grasp
She brings the party together because nobody wants to vote for her.
JFC NO
No.
I spent my whole life in Texas, it's one of the WORST states to be poor in, and it can be an expensive state to live in. You HAVE to own a car, you have to pay more for healthcare, you have no union and only $7.50 minimum wage, almost no social services for poor families. Just no. And we also have a ton of homeless people but the weather in Texas will kill you outside in a year.
Here's something I struggled with when I voted on Friday, I looked up the ballot early and did research on every race that was there. You know how hard it is to find out what the Democratic candidates for NC Treasurer stand for? It's almost impossible, I could find almost nothing about any of them. The only reason one of the judges was in the news was because there was a controversy.
Is this just a function of less local newspapers or is this how it always is? It was super frustrating and I ended up not voting in two of the races because I could find out nothing about them.
Is this just a function of less local newspapers or is this how it always is? It was super frustrating and I ended up not voting in two of the races because I could find out nothing about them.
Yeah, I think there's a not insignificant amount of people whose main criterion is that the next president should be a woman.
All she's doing is taking votes and delegates away from Bernie. So no.
What ever it takes to make sure Bernie loses to maintain the status quo it seems. Though I'd would be halarious to see Warren be able to stay in the race being funded by a rich ex-republican.
Primary for Mass is in a couple of days. Guess we'll have to see.
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I don't think M4A would pass, but I think it's an important to help drive Americans more to the left on healthcare. I would be satisfied with a public option in the mean time. I think if given no other option, Bernie would compromise there rather than sticking with status quo.
Having trouble finding any actual studies on the cost, this article links to DoE data and its the same number Bernie gives out, which is $79 billion, not $120 billion. I used $120b because I'm pretty sure that was a high estimate from some think tank, but can't remember which. Most seems to quote around $70-80 billion.
I don't think M4A would pass, but I think it's an important to help drive Americans more to the left on healthcare. I would be satisfied with a public option in the mean time. I think if given no other option, Bernie would compromise there rather than sticking with status quo.
Having trouble finding any actual studies on the cost, this article links to DoE data and its the same number Bernie gives out, which is $79 billion, not $120 billion. I used $120b because I'm pretty sure that was a high estimate from some think tank, but can't remember which. Most seems to quote around $70-80 billion.
No clue.
I just know based on these rankings that the bottom 10 are almost all Republican led states:
Also fuck the Mississippi state flag.
Chance of what? Losing her home state?
She has no pathway to winning whatsoever.
Definitely, my lord PUMAs and the KHive right now are mental.
Matches exit polling saying something like 50% having their vote influenced by Clyburn.
California is not the worst state to be poor in by pretty much any metric. That would be places like Mississippi or Florida.
My opinion of her has dropped majorly in the past months, this year has not been good for Warren
Clyburn, can anyone tell me why he's so important vs any old random local/state politician endorsing someone?
Where is this coming from? I don't understand the hostility. Sanders and Biden have been in the politics game for decades. Warren has only been a Senator since 2013, with no prior political experience, but she does have experience getting shit done. Of course she is being strategic, but there's a difference between that and being underhanded.
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