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It's a interesting development to see. Who knows what the horse race will look like when primaries start in 2 months.
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Democratic insiders: “Bernie could win the nomination”
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It's a interesting development to see. Who knows what the horse race will look like when primaries start in 2 months.
Well Bernie needs to simply win the nom and we can put that to the test.
And Pelosi and Democratic establishment people meeting with rich donors on how to stop him
As reported by New York Times.
As reported by New York Times.
Biden is still the favorite, but Sanders is probably the second likeliest to win the nomination at this point. A while ago I would have said it was Warren.
Warren has been my #1 pick but if Sanders is more viable by Super Tuesday, he's got my vote.
Like Biden though, any issues I'd have with his age could be quelled by a strong VP choice. (Please, for the love of God, not Tulsi)
Warren has been my #1 pick but if Sanders is more viable by Super Tuesday, he's got my vote.
I mean, it's a genuine concern. Dude had a heart attack and his campaign lied about it.
Like Biden though, any issues I'd have with his age could be quelled by a strong VP choice. (Please, for the love of God, not Tulsi)
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whats the point of this thread if when he loses, you'll blame the "establishment" anyway as the sole reason why he lost
Whoever (Sanders or Warren) is in the best position to beat Biden come Super Tuesday gets my vote.
I like how this is phrased....as if the media, DNC, etc. haven't already been caught multiple times being biased as shit against Bernie.
Easily? No. Sadly.
You can't win an election purely on the support on the base of your party - you need the base as well as the centrists in the electorate. Bernie will have just as hard a time winning over centrist voters as Trump will as long as the pervasive fear of socialist policies is a thing in the US.
Trump could very likely win the next election purely based on a "Bernie is a commie" message. Bernie isn't a communist but a lot of Americans are stupid enough to believe it and vote Trump because "at least he's a real American" or some nonsense like that.
if you want Trump gone, your best hope is a centrist.
then you fully admit there is zero point in this besides patting yourself on the back
Pre-setting up excuses for if he loses?
"Well it wasn't socialism that lost! He only lost cus the ESTABLISHMENT didn't support him hard enough!"
(I do this Sanders has a good chance to win. I just hate the excuses people always use.)
There are far more reasonable Bernie fans than the unreasonable jerks you've been arguing with. He's a good candidate, provided he picks an excellent running mate.
Yeah, Hillary Clinton was out here promoting Juche in 2016 now? I don't get what people mean when they say a centrist will win. It's not like Joe and Pete are clean.
God, you may as well be Trump with how disingenuous this comment is.
here we go, the comparisons to bernie and trump supporters already on page 1
Nope, not comparing Bernie supporters to Trump. Comparing YOU to Trump.
Again with the disingenuous, intentionally deceptive, borderline lie of a post.
I didn't realize you were Bernie supporter Jesus and that any criticism of you counts as criticism of ALL his supporters.
Swing voters thought Trump was closer to the center than Clinton.
She would have won but for the Comey letter.
do you want to engage with my posts or do you just want to call me names
Can I call you Trump for shouting fake news without backing it up?
The point in this is saving the country. It's in ensuring that the billionaires pay for their sins and that people aren't dying because they can't afford healthcare.
Whats the point of thread whining about this thread when any positive thread about Bernie gets you people in a tizzy?
I've come around Sanders. Policy largely doesnt matter in the general election anyway. The base left will come out no matter who you nominate. ight as well get the guy that excites people.
Only worry for him is that he lacks support with blacks except the young ones. You can't win the nomination without their support amd you risk your own chances if you ignore them in the general election.
Only worry for him is that he lacks support with blacks except the young ones. You can't win the nomination without their support amd you risk your own chances if you ignore them in the general election.
Was Hillary very centric? Wasn't it pretty mich established she lost due to a combination of arrogance and gerrymandering from Republican governors?
Trump won because enough people in the middle wanted "something new" even though it clearly was a bad choice.
Case in point: In December 2003, John Kerry was tied for third place at 8% with Joe Lieberman and behind Dick Gephardt and Howard Dean in a national ABC poll.
Swing voters are idiots that can't be relied upon, ever. Hillary was the definition of the centrist status quo. What people thought about her emails has little to do with the assertion that more centrism is the answer to Trump. It's not.
Eh, still a long way until the voting starts.
But I think there's a reasonable argument that if Sanders loses vs. Trump it's very likely Biden (or Buttigieg or Warren) would have as well, and I'd rather have Sanders lead the charge than the others. Can still stomach plenty of other candidates still in, though; I'm not a buster.
But I think there's a reasonable argument that if Sanders loses vs. Trump it's very likely Biden (or Buttigieg or Warren) would have as well, and I'd rather have Sanders lead the charge than the others. Can still stomach plenty of other candidates still in, though; I'm not a buster.
I don't need to set anything up. The Democrats and their media friends are not helping themselves against conspiracy theories with all these manipulative Bernie erasure charts on TV.
If there's toxic infighting after he loses the primary, blame them for stoking the flames with the nonsense. Pin Bernie cleanly.
I need evidence that the poster intentionally lied about what the person he was quoting said?
The poster said: "whats the point of this thread if when he loses, you'll blame the "establishment" anyway as the sole reason why he lost"
Which isn't even CLOSE to saying: "so the establishment isn't complicit at all, good to know"
The poster was 100% being disingenuous and manipulative. Full stop. No argument.
