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Demi Lavato - Referring to extra terrestrials as 'alien' is offensive...to the alien...
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Go search youtube for the Genesis "Illegal Alien" official music video.
THAT is fucking offensive.
The term 'alien', I can't see a problem with. I AM ONE. Every time I go to another culture. And yet I say fuck you to all these Jonathan Blows and other asshats, to be clear.
THAT is fucking offensive.
The term 'alien', I can't see a problem with. I AM ONE. Every time I go to another culture. And yet I say fuck you to all these Jonathan Blows and other asshats, to be clear.
Lmao that's a stupid take by them. Do people not study English in schools anymore or is this some attempt to seem woke by being obtuse and one dimensional about a word.
Is there anything to suggest that Demi's quirks stem from them having brain damage? The brain is a complex organ, and damage can result in almost any kind of symptoms, both physical and mental. But Demi seems to have been more erratic in their behaviour even before 2018.
That said, they have a long history of struggling with mental health and addiction, so I'm not entirely comfortable with how they're being thrust under the spotlight for the sole purpose of being pointed and laughed at.
They can say whatever, I'm just annoyed at the article twisting it to be "look at something else people are offended by these days, can't say anything!" bullshit.
Sick of articles like this making people with actual grievances look like nuisances because they pretend we are offended about stuff that we aren't actually offended by to get outrage and clicks.
Sick of articles like this making people with actual grievances look like nuisances because they pretend we are offended about stuff that we aren't actually offended by to get outrage and clicks.
I'm genuinely worried about Demi after watching that documentary shown at SXSW. Lots of opportunistic people in their life encouraging Demi to continue drinking and doing drugs, saying it's fine in moderation and that sobriety isn't for everyone. These people are willing to let Demi die but not before bleeding out as much cash as they can.
Probably would be if we actually found any yet.
But in ecology (to refer to non-native species, we are one for fuck sake in most of our range, and clearly invasive) or immigration discourse, the use of alien is indeed offensive.
But in ecology (to refer to non-native species, we are one for fuck sake in most of our range, and clearly invasive) or immigration discourse, the use of alien is indeed offensive.
A quick Google of Demi Lovato at the moment brings up the right wing British tabloids, who have all glommed onto this, for the same reasons you mention. It's infuriating.
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Wow, it feels like it was just last month. Man this year is flying.
I agree alien is offensive its very demeaning and generalizes all extraterrestrials. Go up to a Zeta Reticulan and us the the word, "alien" they will side eye you. Also don't call them draconians or god forbid Lizard people the preferred term is reptilian humanoids.
Well I mean, they're right.
Even way back during Twilight Zone/Star Trek Tv shows they were playing with the idea how humans would be somewhat offended and shocked to be called aliens when going to other planets with non human indigenous species.
This isn't a big statement to get worked up over
Even way back during Twilight Zone/Star Trek Tv shows they were playing with the idea how humans would be somewhat offended and shocked to be called aliens when going to other planets with non human indigenous species.
This isn't a big statement to get worked up over
If we were to make contact with extraterrestrial life, 100 years of science fiction literature is going to be very awkward if they want peace and equality with us. Things like Mars attacks and Independence Day are going to look very ignorant and barbaric to them.
I don't agree that what they actually said is the same thing as the title of this thread or the article. In my opinion if someone finds the word "alien" is a derogatory term then it is perfectly reasonable to avoid using it in general.
The term "alien", as a noun, is used in an offensive way all the time in politics and government. Particularly in the USA, towards its own residents even.
Between this and the sugar free foods thing, demi really has some outta this world takes lately.
Could you edit this with the correct pronouns please? And "insane" may not be a good choice word either...
On topic, this show sounds... interesting lol.
I'm sorry, this whole thread from the op, the misgendering, the corrections, and the back and forth. Reads like an Abott and Costello skit lol
In theory that's true. But until they can tell us what they'd like to be called we can't respect their wishes.
People are joking but everyone knows xenophobia will be very severe as soon as aliens talk to us
Imma need Carmen to lead me to these extraterrestrials, cuz i need off this planet
I feel like xenophobia towards actual extraterrestrials would be justified. There's stuff on Earth we haven't yet been exposed to that's probably dangerous to us let alone beings from completely different planets
The same stupid Demi that found it offensive that some place wasn't selling enough sugar-filled yogurt and then went on to trash their business online using celebrity status as a weapon? Yeah fuck off. That apology was even more embarrassing and came off as completely fake.
If only. They were outraged that they had to walk past the sugar-free section before they got to the sugar one. Apparently that promoted unhealthy dieting.
One poster pointed out that she's struggled with mental health issues so I wonder if that is behind these weird takes.
Exactly, and for the rest of us (or the UK at least) that's not the case which makes their take seem even dumber. It's extremely US-centric (which is fine, they're an American talking to a US based outlet for a primarily US audience, but it's still a bad take).
i watched that demi lovato documentary this past summer and the stuff theyve been through was pretty horrific. overdosed on drugs and left for dead after being raped by their drug dealer. previously raped on the set of one of those camp rock movies too, i believe. so ill keep from judgment regarding them from now on.
I think you got the wrong takeaway from my comment, "dumbness" about the USA aside. There is a context in the USA where seeing "alien" as derogatory makes sense.
This forum is really terrible when facing and recognizing mental health issues. Hopefully the people you know personally who are not public figures don't get the same treatment of rehashing their low moments just because someone thought what they said one time was dumb.
My two cents: I wish ERA wouldn't allow threads like this. Demi has gone on record about how their overdose resulted in permanent brain damage, bad enough that they are no longer allowed to legally drive. Want to dunk on someone like Donald Trump, go apeshit. But mocking someone who clearly suffers from lingering mental issues isn't fun.
No one in the thread is going to agree with Demi, so there's no constructive discussion to be had here, it's all just "Wow, aren't they dumb/stupid/crazy? Hollyweird, amirite?!"
No one in the thread is going to agree with Demi, so there's no constructive discussion to be had here, it's all just "Wow, aren't they dumb/stupid/crazy? Hollyweird, amirite?!"
I just got back from a tour of Rigel IV. There we just called everyone "outlander".
For real though, they need help and to pick their battles better. This can be used in a derogatory way, if that's the intent of some piece of shit that wants to use it that way. But it is not inherently offensive.
For real though, they need help and to pick their battles better. This can be used in a derogatory way, if that's the intent of some piece of shit that wants to use it that way. But it is not inherently offensive.
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This.
ERA a long way to go on a lot of issues including mental illness.
seriously. people in this thread actually calling them insane? gross as fuck.
and if you don't know enough about a person and the things they have going on, don't say shit like that about them and act repentant later. that's just a good rule of thumb for being a decent human.
what words? that aliens wouldn't want to be called aliens?
what's so bad about it, exactly???
explain it to me.
Yeah and the thread title and the article themselves seem in bad faith too
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