No. No. No. This is bad news, this is a literal cult.
You're not being insightful.
I know several people in the UK, from different circles, who went off the deep end after discovering Jordan Peterson. Their paths are exactly the same as the one you describe. Peterson, various free speech grifters, then Covid denial and anti lockdown. It's so depressing.I'm in the UK and I cut off a couple of my extended circle after the Brexit vote and that was fine as we weren't close. This weekend I cut off one of my formerly closest friends, someone I still love, because he's spent the last three years being radicalised and I feel incredibly sad about it. He dipped his toe in with Jordan Peterson, got into terfery and got progressively worse as he started posting shit from right-wing disingenuous free speech warriors. Covid broke his brain and he's been an anti-mask and anti-lockdown denialist for the past year who now retweets anti-BLM shit, far-right grifters, covid charlatans, Charlie Kirk and his ilk, QAnon accounts, Trump (before the ban) and his only response to the terrorist insurrection was to call them "harmless larpers" who "we should be reaching out to because they're economically anxious" and anyway "the liberal elites are the real problem and Keir Starmer is worse than Trump because he tried to fight Brexit". This guy is Scottish and voted remain in 2016. He thinks he's still on the left because he still agrees with some leftist economic policies but it's always this class reductionist "stop talking about minority or lgbtq stuff to focus on the real issues" shit so even his remaining leftist politics are suffused with social conservatism.
I called him out on it and said I was genuinely worried at how radicalised he'd become and how he needed to snap out of it before it was too late and he called me a disingenuous liar who wasn't actually concerned and I was just a shallow thinker who is brainwashed by the liberal consensus.
I snapped and chewed him out before cutting him off and I feel awful. It needed to be done but I will never feel good about it.
This. It felt shitty and made me angry when I deleted a few FB friends years ago because of their support for Trump.It doesn't feel that great to me. I just had a huge fucking fallout on Facebook with my mother in law. I'm a scientist. She's a Qanon trumper. She believes antifa was behind the insurrection. She challenged my pro-vaccine profile pic and gave me the usual Trump and anti-vaxxer shit and I shut her down. She ended up insulting my education and calling me a pompous ass. I blocked her and my husband hasn't talked to his mom since before that incident, it's been 2 weeks. It's not great and it doesn't feel great that lives and families are being destroyed because of rampant unfettered right wing conspiracies and politics. I wish I could have a relationship with my mother in law but I can't. We're not compatible.
I can excuse supporting an unapologetic racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, nazi piece of shit for 4 years but I draw the line at spouting some call to arms bullshit on twitter for the 100th time in 4 years
My general feelings as well. This isn't something I look forward to doing, and I've done it a few times over the years now. These people have been brainwashed and it breaks my heart to see them turn towards this gross idol that lies to them 24/7.It doesn't feel that great to me. I just had a huge fucking fallout on Facebook with my mother in law. I'm a scientist. She's a Qanon trumper. She believes antifa was behind the insurrection. She challenged my pro-vaccine profile pic and gave me the usual Trump and anti-vaxxer shit and I shut her down. She ended up insulting my education and calling me a pompous ass. I blocked her and my husband hasn't talked to his mom since before that incident, it's been 2 weeks. It's not great and it doesn't feel great that lives and families are being destroyed because of rampant unfettered right wing conspiracies and politics. I wish I could have a relationship with my mother in law but I can't. We're not compatible.
Could you just once comment in a thread without acting like a sanctimonious know-it-all?I can excuse supporting an unapologetic racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, nazi piece of shit for 4 years but I draw the line at spouting some call to arms bullshit on twitter for the 100th time in 4 years
Yeah, I've been reconnecting with a lot of high school friends and old military buddies in the past few years and it's wild how many have gone in that direction, but also happy to see a good number of those that didn't. My first ex ended up being a Qaren as well, but it is what it is.This. It felt shitty and made me angry when I deleted a few FB friends years ago because of their support for Trump.
Most of them were friends from high school (way too many people I went to HS with turned Republican).
Yeah a lot of mine are horrified by everything going on as well.Yeah, I've been reconnecting with a lot of high school friends and old military buddies in the past few years and it's wild how many have gone in that direction, but also happy to see a good number of those that didn't. My first ex ended up being a Qaren as well, but it is what it is.
Jordan Peterson is a fucking blight on this earth. He's been the gateway drug for so many previously decent people that are now junkies for far right propaganda. I thought he was gone from the spotlight after he got addicted to benzos and started doing that wacky all meat diet his daughter was pushing which fucked up his health and also exposed him as the charlatan he is but he's somehow making a comeback now and I'm sure there'll be a new generation of people who will fall for his sophistry and grand narratives.I know several people in the UK, from different circles, who went off the deep end after discovering Jordan Peterson. Their paths are exactly the same as the one you describe. Peterson, various free speech grifters, then Covid denial and anti lockdown. It's so depressing.
I deleted Facebook altogether a few years back but other friends sometimes send screen grabs of the insanity taking place on there and it blows my mind.