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December 2018 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes Tuesday, January 15th
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Last december they announced the 4.8M milestone in very early January.
I mean you explained it well, but Chris was saying "Nintendo doesn't need NPD to tell they're the best selling console." Taken literally, this is untrue, right? I also thought you said competitors didn't get detailed data first, which would be a weird, but they do I guess.
To your first question, a company may have a good idea of its ranking, but when talking about the US market it would be very odd to come out and say that product x sold more than competitor product y without the NPD data.
I don't understand your second question.
Shit, I was totally confusing the total sales the Switch had to reach this month to beat it, with just the difference between the two hah. But even at twice the gap it's almost certain to surpass it.
(700k ps4 this month+ 600k rest of year=1300k Switch)
Thanks!
Okay my assumption was right then, thanks for the clarification. I think you said yesterday that companies didn't get info on competing products, but I'm sure you meant from their own projection and not the NPD data. But I remember you replying specifically to someone asking if Nintendo can see Sony sales for NPD, but maybe I was just the confused one.
Well of course any subscriber to NPD would get all the relevant data they asked for. It would be ridiculous if Nintendo was restricted to only see information pertaining to their own products and not see anything from "competitors" while any regular investor or firm could see all of it. That would be useless.
I was referring to retailer reporting to the mfg/publisher. A mfg gets all of the sales and inventory data of its own products directly from retailers, but it does not get information on competitor products directly from retailers.
Uncertain. Also not certain if it will be Monday or Tuesday.
Nice to see that a lot of users seem to realise this is going to be one of the best decembers in the last number of years.
There's magic in the air, sales wise. :P
There's magic in the air, sales wise. :P
Ah right, that's were the confusion came from. Now it all makes sense :P. I thought manufacturers just tracked all consoles shipped to retailers and with a high enough stock turnover sold should be close to shipped in a small timeframe. Didn't know retailers shared exact sales data to manufacturers directly.
No holiday at your work? No wonder you've been cranky.
People forget that for a huge chunk of the Switch audience these Wii U ports are essentially brand new games
So while something like NSMBU Deluxe may seem boring and over priced to someone that owned a Wii U, for a lot of Switch consumers they just see a Mario game they never have played before
I've posted it many times in various threads but, Nintendo is exactly where they want to be with Switch.
-Popular hardware
-Vast vast majority of software sales are Nintendo 1st party (even ports with next to no development expense like SMBWU, pure profit)
It's a money making machine. And why Nintendo doesn't care if their platforms are particularly friendly to 3rd parties (very limited storage etc on Switch).
-Popular hardware
-Vast vast majority of software sales are Nintendo 1st party (even ports with next to no development expense like SMBWU, pure profit)
It's a money making machine. And why Nintendo doesn't care if their platforms are particularly friendly to 3rd parties (very limited storage etc on Switch).
tea it's going to easily outdo the original in the West. Not a single friend of mine knew it was a port, and everyone who I've talked to has been like 'have you seen that new Mario game?!'
+ Even to the ~half a dozen people who owned a Wii u, there's plenty like me who didn't get the chance to play some of its games, too.
And the multiplayer is a huge component as well. I will likely be buying it eventually as well because it's a game that my family likes to play together. We got 100% in the game, but playing with others makes the experience completely different each time you play it depending on the group you are with, even if the actual game is the same. I'd be surprised if the game fell short of 10 million unless Nintendo has a new one coming later this year or something.
So Switch has to achieve the devil's number in order to come out on top? Nintendo has to enter a satanic contract in order to "win".
No wonder there's no PR, they are weary and shaken of what they had to do to get there!
Is it looking significantly ahead of the original release?
Is switch his generation or the generation with PS5 and whatever the next xbox is called?
Nintendo themselves has placed the Switch with the current generation (WiiU/PS4/Xone)
not really, they say "[...]of the generation". makes sense since there isn't any other console
If there was no other system in Switch's own generation, they could tout that claim every hour.
They make it clear they mean current gen.
Unless you're joking (hard to tell) that's not the case at all, when they said "[...]of the generation" it was definitely true in comparison to the PS4, XB1 and whatever else. But you're probably joking.
Personal opinion would be that the Switch is current gen and they are correct in saying so. The Switch is barely more powerful than the Wii U and I see it as a radical refresh than a whole next generation thing.
The same could've been said of the Wii and it still counted as a new generation. The Switch is simply Nintendo's next generation of systems, succeeding both the Wii U and the 3DS, and, when the PS5 and XB2 come out, it'll be sold alongside them as opposed to another Nintendo system. It's just that there's no point in touting it as the next generation of systems when none of the others are out yet anyways
Lol I can't believe this bs is still a thing in 2019. the switch is at least 3x and also has 2015-2016 tech in it.
anyway power doesn't mean nothing, what generation were 3ds and Vita?
exactly
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Interesting. Do you have a source for that 3x figure?
They aren't home consoles, so different metric.
Fair enough.
not the person you quoted but in handheld the Switch is just as powerful as the Wii U, as evidenced by the fact that handheld switch can run wii u games just as well as/better that the wii u and obviously the Switch is at least twice as powerful docked as it is in handheld so it's more twice as powerful as the Wii u.
160 amd core vs 256 cuda cores
shitty cpu vs a modern quad core
1gb of vram vs 3,25
2x bandwidth
development in mixed precision
there's no contest and you'll see when games actually begin to push it. wii u never run Doom/Doom eternal nor Warframe or dragon quest xi. hell just look at smash bros ultimate and compare it to the wii u game. it's at least 50%+ in portable mode and double than that in docked mode and also supports current gen enginees.
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Thanks! I'll be keeping this in my back pocket the next time I have a similar discussion elsewhere.
No, no that was the Wii U wasn't it? So the Switch must be at least 7.5 Gamecubes duct-taped together, given recent conversation.
It'll be a bit slow but steady selling evergreen title, I bet. It's essentially the title that the more casual/family crowd will pick up with a new purchase. It's that audience they will need to attract in the coming months and years, the enthusiast crowd has already been largely convinced. Some of the latter are maybe just waiting on funds or a specific game but will eventually buy in sooner rather than later.
I'm confused. Are you saying that Nintendo was being cheeky in their PR and meant that the Switch is the fastest-selling console of the generation due to a technicality of being the only console of the generation? Because it's pretty clear that they were directly comparing its sales pace to PS4/XB1/3DS lol.
