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DEATHLOOP | Review Thread
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Not every game is going to succeed, be it a full price, or tied to a subscription or F2P.
We just saw how Destruction All-Stars bombed and disappeared entirely and this game went from $70 to being sold for $20 and was free via PS+.
NT dropping support from Bleeding Edge is exactly what a lot of people wanted because they clearly care more about Hellblade 2 than this experimental game NT was working on.
Bethesda and Sony can absolutely pat themselves on the back for promotion. Nobody can say with a straight face that they didn't get it out there enough and there's no such thing as too much promotion.
Why would you praise a moneyhat and not the developers?
How much did you love godfall?
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Obviously too early at this moment but I wonder what they will do next besides the Xbox version of the game. Dishonored 3 ? Deathloop sequel ? Another new IP ?
Though they may also help Austin finishing Redfall as they tend to work together.
Dishonored 2 and Death of the Outsider didn't do great commercially but I think that Game Pass increases the chances of seeing Dishonored returning one day if the devs want that.
Just played the first two levels
- Graphics are real good and clean. Dont let the youtube trailers bring you down, it's one of those games you need to see on your ps5 to really appreciate it.
- Artstyle is incredible, as per usual Arkane, though character models once again could use some work but Colt and Julaiana look great (dont @ at me i'm sick of it)
- Performance mode is set to default on the game settings, so I'm assuming Arkane knew the other modes aren't upto scratch ... I'm the 30 fps rtx, full visual smorgasboard type player, but performance mode looks great as it is and I honestly dont think I'll change the mode - I played Ratchet and Clank on 30 fps and still had an amazing time, but I think I want 60fps on this game.
- Colt and Jualiana are really fun so far, love their interaction and story is interesting, but its a slow drip atm, but obviously it will get better the more I play, not an issue, but a good start.
- Level design once again is excellent, lot of ways to get into places, even just from the initial levels, with lots of little puzzles littered around ... It's honestly a bit intimidating.
My biggest gripe so far is the autosave .... I hate the fact that there's no quick save function. I understand it's a roguelite, but at the same time it's an immersive sim, so why would you limit player choice by keeping it as an autosave only. The fact that I cant auto-save and save scum to my hearts content makes it want me to experiment less and honestly kinda ruins the fun for me personally. I know people are ok with this, but I really wish this was a player option - Just let me save scum goddamit.
- But you do get 2 lives for this game for each level, so the game isnt too brutal when it comes to your mistakes and dying but I'd rather have a on the fly save system than what they added to the game.
Overall, I'm having a great time so far and cant wait to play more. I love everything except the lack of save feature, so that should at least tell you this is a super high quality game worth playing.
- Graphics are real good and clean. Dont let the youtube trailers bring you down, it's one of those games you need to see on your ps5 to really appreciate it.
- Artstyle is incredible, as per usual Arkane, though character models once again could use some work but Colt and Julaiana look great (dont @ at me i'm sick of it)
- Performance mode is set to default on the game settings, so I'm assuming Arkane knew the other modes aren't upto scratch ... I'm the 30 fps rtx, full visual smorgasboard type player, but performance mode looks great as it is and I honestly dont think I'll change the mode - I played Ratchet and Clank on 30 fps and still had an amazing time, but I think I want 60fps on this game.
- Colt and Jualiana are really fun so far, love their interaction and story is interesting, but its a slow drip atm, but obviously it will get better the more I play, not an issue, but a good start.
- Level design once again is excellent, lot of ways to get into places, even just from the initial levels, with lots of little puzzles littered around ... It's honestly a bit intimidating.
My biggest gripe so far is the autosave .... I hate the fact that there's no quick save function. I understand it's a roguelite, but at the same time it's an immersive sim, so why would you limit player choice by keeping it as an autosave only. The fact that I cant auto-save and save scum to my hearts content makes it want me to experiment less and honestly kinda ruins the fun for me personally. I know people are ok with this, but I really wish this was a player option - Just let me save scum goddamit.
- But you do get 2 lives for this game for each level, so the game isnt too brutal when it comes to your mistakes and dying but I'd rather have a on the fly save system than what they added to the game.
Overall, I'm having a great time so far and cant wait to play more. I love everything except the lack of save feature, so that should at least tell you this is a super high quality game worth playing.
To anyone who has played the game - how many notes/diaries are there to read? I feel like one of the biggest weaknesses of the Dishonored series was its over reliance on diaries and notes to convey world building and backstory (it's not necessary to read most or even any of them but I always felt compelled to anyway for completion's sake and found it super obnoxious by just how many there were scattered about. It didn't help that most of them were dull af 😶).
So....console input lag? I think acg mentioned on the ps5 version it in his review, but not much else has been said about it
This is totally second hand because I haven't played it yet myself, but I've read that it's lighter on the ancilliary lore notes than Dishonored. Apparently most notes you find are more directly related ro puzzles and clues.
The power of good scores:
I really want people to actually play it and not return the game because it's not the same shit they are used to, but i have so little faith in the wider gaming audience.
its #3 on US amazing right now too lol.The power of good scores:
I think the game holding your hand a bit in the early hours will allow for that to happen.
Nah it's really not a roguelike, at least not what I've played so far. It's closer to Dishonored but a bit more freeform. It's an immersive sim through and through.
The wider audience is opening up to sims and rogue lites I feel. I'm sure this will do well regardless.
I'm so sad ill only get to play this for a day until I go on my trip to Brazil for like 10 days lol.
I pity those who have no patience. Two months from now it'll be cheaper and with a few extra patches.The power of good scores:
That doesn't sound so bad. It could be worse, no foreign trip or PS5 on my end 🙃
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Nice, hope it will be in the NPD top 10 next month.
It's getting 10s on the retail build, and there's no need to wait any longer than one has to.
If you've got the funds, go for it.
I pity you for having to worry about buying a game full price or on sale
I wonder about that with this game and with MS now essentially the publisher - I'd think they may want to keep the price high till they get it to release on xbox.
I'm glad to hear the game's accessible but oof, this one hurts as I'm an unrepentant save scumming fiend.
I want to support one of my favorite developers so no need for pity.
Nah, there was a lot of hate. The complaining about trailers was immensely stupid, too. But alas, gamers are generally known for their whiny behaviour about things that make no sense at all, so it isn't that surprising.
Great reviews. Particularly looking forward to the pvp aspect.
Did you forget Prey or Youngblood's scores? The studio's track record isn't consistent in the way that Rockstar's is, so it's not utterly shocking for some people to have such expectations.
Did you forget Prey or Youngblood's scores? The studio's track record isn't consistent in the way that Rockstar's is, so it's not utterly shocking for some people to have such expectations.
Prey was developed by ARKANE AUSTIN.
Deathloop is developed by ARKANE LYON, and they made Dishonored 2 as well and were leading on the original Dishonored w/ARKANE AUSTIN helping.
Youngblood was mainly developed by MachineGames while Arkane Lyon worked on the level design (and to the surprise of no one, it was the best part of Youngblood)
-- It's 2021 and people still don't know that Arkane has two studios and they only assisted in Youngblood when MachineGames was the lead dev.
After reading about the terrible AI, I'm going to pass on it. Maybe when there is steam sale for under $20 or even better its on Gamepass, I'll give it a try.
Terrible AI really brought down Cyberpunk 2077 for me, but that game had other things going for it that pushed me to the finish line.
Terrible AI really brought down Cyberpunk 2077 for me, but that game had other things going for it that pushed me to the finish line.
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lol, why would everyone know every studio and the teams below the umbrella/developer name?
I got Pray for almost nothing. I owe Arkane a full price purchase. Moreover, I want to be in there day one. I am willing to pay for that privilege.
Didn't expect this review so well, maybe because I never got a sense of what the game is about
To avoid hot takes.
"Arkane made Prey, therefore people shouldn't expect Deathloop to review well" --> this is both wrong and a hot take.
I get that, but I also like to support devs I love on Day 1. To each their own, no pity necessary
Ha, the exact same thing happened to me. Got Prey for $10 and felt like I robbed somebody by the time I finished it
I only discovered Prey, I wrote it off initially but with the 60fps boost on XSX I went back to it and I've been completely blown away by it. Event horizon immersive sim on a space station, I had no idea this is what I was in for. Assumed it was a normal shooter, but my god, how surprised I was to discover it's a survival RPG with plenty of suspense. Amazing game so far, fully captivated by it, cannot wait to start Dishonored 2 for the first time.
Huge fan of Arkane now, absolutely delighted by the Deathloop scores, perhaps their best work yet, the wait for it should be softened by the fact I still got Prey and D2 to finish I guess.
Huge fan of Arkane now, absolutely delighted by the Deathloop scores, perhaps their best work yet, the wait for it should be softened by the fact I still got Prey and D2 to finish I guess.