Nice, I guess ultrawide support is in. 3440x1440 maxed for me with a 1080 Ti!I assume these are 4KDLSS.
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Death Stranding will support DLSS 2.0 on PC
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Dictator confirmed that it has HDR support on PC. It's somewhere in this thread.
I edited my post after doing some research (DLSS isn't totally free like I thought, but it's still very much worth it).
And yeah, a 980Ti won't do it. It specifically requires the tensor cores on RTX cards - I would recommend waiting a few months before upgrading though, as the Nvidia 30-series is coming and will likely be a big jump in performance and value. You'll probably be able to get a card that approaches 2080Ti performance for $499 - no promises, though.
I'm saying the quality is equivalent, not talking about the method.
Beside there isn't much information on what it actually does, so can't really say how it reconstructs
Not even that. They don't even have the same sort of artifacts carry out by checkerboard and CAS is far far cheaper in performance. Nothing a like period.
oh i know i'm definitely waiting for them, and i'm not too affraid about the price since it's supposed to last me the whole gen, we'll see when they announce the spec
I mean mate, you can start arguing with me about this over semantics.
My point is DLSS competes against native resolution and can look better, FidelityFX and CBR don't.
Additionally we don't have much idea on how FidelityFX reconstructs to make absolute statements like "nothing like it period" just because it doesn't share some traits. By that merit the Temporal Injection method we see in Insomniac's games is "nothing like it" compared to CBR either, but they are closer to each other than they are to a technique like DLSS.
Sure, I'm just saying if I need a bit of a boost there is an option and naked eye in motion I can't tell the difference. DLSS is great and I hope it sees wider adoption, but I was just responding to poster asking if it will make sense to buy an AMD card. Perhaps they will come up with a similar solution, but overall we will have to wait and see. If AMD rdna2 cards are cheaper than nvidia and offer the same or better regular performance not taking into account dlss they may still be a good value, much like the 5700/XT cards are now. My sapphire pulse 5700xt boosts to 2100mhz stock and from everything I see it performs roughly on par with a 2080 in the newest titles. That's a good deal I'd say for $409. Like tbh i expect it to perform quite well at 1440p for several more years, but I will probably get an upgrade itch and sell while it's still worth something.
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That because all of them are nothing a like. You might as well say bilinear filter is the same because it scales image. I am not arguing at all, they are CAS and CBR are nothing a like that is all.
My article's already been linked in here, which confirms that yes, 21:9 support is native. (You can either run in 16:9 or 21:9 ratios, not in other arbitrary ones.)
And to those asking: This is the most interesting battle between Nvidia and AMD's upsampling options yet, since I've never run into a game that offers both as a native menu option. And in my tests thus far, I've noticed that AMD's lead comes primarily in its *faster* upsampling. Move the mouse wildly from the ground back up to a mountain-filled landscape and review the capture footage, and DLSS 2.0 quite simply needs a fraction of a second longer to resolve it into a crisp image. In action, this disadvantage doesn't necessarily play out in a way that harms real gameplay; Death Stranding isn't about wildly whipping your viewpoint this way and that. But it's still noticeable.
I assume these are 4KDLSS.
Fucking black magic man.
It's a shame there's no RT support for the game - or even a better AO implementation like HBAO+. That grass looks really bad.I assume these are 4KDLSS.
Their solution is nowehre close to this and don't expect one in the way that DLSS 2.0 works. nvidia spent a lot of cash on R&D for AI which made this possible + the gpus have tensor cores on it.
We know exactly how CAS works - it's open-source, after all.
Contrast Adaptive Sharpening is just a sharpening filter, like in any image editor. It doesn't reconstruct anything and meant to be used on top of TAA - to mitigate blur caused by reprojection inaccuracies.
Nvidia is so ahead in the deep learning space that it hurts. They have been the de facto leader in the area pretty much unchallenged (except for google's TPUs which are for internal use only) for a better half of the decade and AMD isn't even close to catching up.
So in your opinion, after comparing the two, is Nvidia's DLSS 2.0 matched (surpassed?) by AMD's FidelityFX?
I had no idea AMD had a DLSS alternative. Their marketing is really bad. I hope next gen consoles will be using similar methods as I've always thought that native 4K is always a waste of power.
It does not do the same thing...
So not an alternative, but a different thing entirely. For some reason AMD marketed it originally as something to be put up against DLSS 1.0 (which was already not a like for like technique or comparison point). It's real point of comparison is a user picking a resolution that is not the same as their monitor and just dumbly upscaling it, or even better, a user picking a % resolution lower than their monitor resolution in a game. So putting the res scaler to 75% for example and keeping the HUD and UI at the native resolution. CAS then adaptively sharpens pixels to increase contrast on top of TAA. It does not really increase resolution by reconstructing, but just increases image contrast.
From my experience CAS did not seem to be reconstructing much if at all - are you certain it is? It looked to me like a 75% res scale with TAA (which is the ingame variant) + sharpening and not a reconstruction scheme.
My Ars article goes into it. This was focused less on "which is better" and more on what average PC users can expect, and AMD's platform-agnostic option is at the very least neck-and-neck with DLSS, if not seemingly superior—it delivers slightly more frames in identical scenarios while looking pretty much identical during standard gameplay, and *superior* during cut scenes. (Scroll down a ways in my article to see a major cut scene example.)
yeah, this is why I'm pretty sure AMD will never truly catch up
NVIDIA has diversified into so many different areas that they can pull tech from that I can't see AMD investing the same amount and getting close to the results NVIDIA will get
I'm stoked to see your coverage of this, especially since AMD has been silent on clarifying exactly what FidelityFX CAS does and does not do for Death Stranding. (Another reason why I'm always happy to see my first-of-the-month notice about my DF Pateron sub!)
Oh! :D Thank you for subbing sam (really, thank you).
Yeah I am not sure why AMD are silent on it...
Sry to bother you, can you say when we can expect a DF article on this subject? I mean a technical analysis on the game in general.
edit: something weird with the quotes going on
The Ars article says otherwise. It might not work the same, but the result is the same (or even better in this case)
Dictator, it's not a reconstruction technique at all, it's just a sharpening filter? If so, then it's pretty damn impressive given that it seems to provide better image quality and performance than DLSS 2.0 ( at least in this game according to samred). I'm very interested in seeing your video on this game.
That's somewhat accurate. I only emphasize the apparent result to help PC users understand what they can expect from this port's appearance/performance, not the underlying tech. They're both capable of upsampling, but DLSS is employing a different kind of machine-learning model than FidelityFX CAS does. The last time we really saw a showdown between the two came from F1 2019, which Overclock3D has a great article about. Bear in mind, this looks at an older, less refined version of DLSS.
F1 2019 - Nvidia DLSS VS AMD FidelityFX - OC3D
Introduction Update – Codemasters has confirmed to us that Patch 1.07 for F1 2019 shipped with an incomplete integration of Nvidia’s DLSS technology, which explains the graphical issues which we have experienced within the game. F1 2019’s DLSS support was released prematurely, and Codemasters...
Would have liked to see options to increase draw-distance and enhanced water rendering. But DLSS should be dope!
DLSS 2.0 seems like such great advance in graphics technology, I really hope to see more games utilizing this type of tech.
It's the work smarter, not harder tech. Devs should be using it from this day forward.
The draw distance on the left mountain range/the far center grassland is a little gross, did the PS4 have that as well?