Hahaha, right? This is Hideo Kojima, for better and for worse the man has absolutely zero subtlety. The subtext is always just text. No enlightened insight needed.
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Death Stranding - Review Thread (see staff post for discussion guidelines)
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I think I know what he's talking about because it was somewhere mentioned in another thread. It's a pretty distasteful idea if you're thinking about it first but at the same time it gets you intrigued because there has to be some meaning behind this. It's not really comparable to Quiet.
I agree with him on his first point. People who have yet to play the game telling other people who have and didn't enjoy the experience, that "they just dooon't geet iitt maaaann", sounds horribly annoying. This game, like other pieces of art, will be subjective, and people aren't stupid for not appreciating something the way someone else does. If someone finds nothing of value and someone else does, neither person is incorrect. But we should wait until we play the game before any reviewer gets attacked for an opinion
That's the only way I'd be able to play at launch lol. Unfortunately though Redbox has been AWFUL in my area at least in regards to getting new games. We got WWE and the new COD in the past however I don't know long. I've been wanting to play Control and Sekiro and they've gotten neither.
I am not sure if you are being serious or not, but, just to put things in perspective for you: The whole theme and influence of Death Stranding, the "stick and ropes", came to be because fucking Tim Rogers (a "reviewerguy from Kotaku) told Kojima to read a novel by Kobo Abe. Like, I am not even making this shit up. So that bolded part not only is stupid, but incredibly funny as well.
Part of it is because Jeff has been known for his candor about what he likes and doesn't like for decades, and was famously fired years ago for not changing a review to please a sponsor, so he has always been viewed as a reliable voice, even though his particular taste in games is somewhat limited and specific. The other part is that 5 people at Giantbomb have played it, none of them particularly like it, and they all dislike it for different reasons
Ooooh I've been loosely following along with Death Stranding news out of curiosity and for the weirdness factor and cuz everyone keeps talking about it, but I've only been passively interested so far. All the divisive reviews and opinions here, though, have actually tipped me over into being actively interested now. 👀
It's got me really curious on if I'll like it or not, and I don't hate the idea of just walking and wondering around everywhere. Think I'm gonna try to pick this one up at launch.
It's got me really curious on if I'll like it or not, and I don't hate the idea of just walking and wondering around everywhere. Think I'm gonna try to pick this one up at launch.
No Red Bull at world's end, get fucked.
Monster will always win.
Red Bull is business.
MONSTER IS ART.
Monster will always win.
Red Bull is business.
MONSTER IS ART.
Do you remember Quantum Break? People were breaking down footage of the quick look like an NFL telecast to show that Jeff is bad at games and also a bad person who kicks puppies. People do not like their hype threatened, especially when it's a fandom like MS first party or Kojima.
Yeah reading the review snippets and then seeing the scores..this is definitely it.
Giant Bomb employees the only person qualified to review this game.
oh god, it is really is rick and morty with a comment like that
I just saw how the fast travel system works. WTF? This game seems like it's not fun at all. A complete reversal from MGSV. The last third of DS seems like the story starts to crumble and the game starts to have downright frustrating gameplay based on the impressions.
Seems like this will l be the worst KojiPro game so far, which is really disappointing.
Seems like this will l be the worst KojiPro game so far, which is really disappointing.
People were saying there "has to be" some meaning behind Quiet's T&A up until MGSV's release...
...there wasn't lol. I don't want to be spoiled on what you're talking about but I'm assuming that Jeff has played far enough to know whether whatever it is gets 'justified' or not.
I don't know where all these magical publications and websites that are yet to review are coming from..
Havent reviewers had the game for weeks? It's a 40 hour game, not 4000.
This should be a new copy pasta next to the "sharp knees" dude
Some of us dont read the scores, just the content of the reviews, and quite honestly the text of even the "positive" reviews paints the picture of a middling game.
Welp time to wait for PC version it is... I knew Kojima needed some restrictions... This game from the beginning just looked like an excuse for Kojima to get involved with many different actors.
I know the game is not total dog shit, but I still can't get over the fact that I will be using Daryl from the Walking Dead and it breaks the immersion for me. Weirdly I am fine if the face is from someone not famous like in Horizon Zero Dawn, but I sure will miss original characters with their own faces like Snake.
I know the game is not total dog shit, but I still can't get over the fact that I will be using Daryl from the Walking Dead and it breaks the immersion for me. Weirdly I am fine if the face is from someone not famous like in Horizon Zero Dawn, but I sure will miss original characters with their own faces like Snake.
I live in the NYC area so gladly, at least in the past, they've been stocked up really quickly. I rented Doom 2016 there on release day as a matter of fact, which surprised the hell out of me.
I'll definitely give it a shot and share my impressions as a current skeptic if I get my hands on it via RedBox.
I don't dig the celebrity "actors" thing at all either, I'd prefer original characters and somehow find it weird in a negative way despite obviously not minding actors playing different people on screen. Probably just not used to it but as of right now I don't care for it.
The game would have had Red Bull but it would have completely broken the gameplay loop as Red Bull gives you wings.
Yeah this is super unfortunate. I don't understand how you can have so many caveats yet not reflect that in your score.
Pro tip - I used to be a professional reviewer myself. I never gave review scores because numerical scores aren't an accurate way to reflect how you feel about a game. It's just convenient bullshit that gamers use to shit on each other from behind battle lines they drew months before release, rather than an accurate way to gauge a game's quality level.
There are plenty of positive reviews in the OP that very clearly make mention of the game's myriad flaws and drawbacks but then excuse them in order to put a 9/10 or 10/10 score on top of the end product. This kind of stuff is counterproductive and it works against quality discourse because readers just boil reviews down to scores instead of actually reading them and in some case not even trying to look at a game from a top level down and analyze it as a whole.
This bullshit "GOTF OR GTFO" mindset that the modern gaming community has rallied around is inherently toxic and antithetical to proper analysis.
the only member of the giant bomb family properly qualified to review this game is drew scanlon and he has been SUSPICIOUSLY quiet
The 10s this game is getting makes no sense based on the review content.
Game sounds like a beautiful fetch quest with a weird wtf story.
Could be interesting but if it is really like 40 hours of that and cutscenes I don't think it interests me at all
Game sounds like a beautiful fetch quest with a weird wtf story.
Could be interesting but if it is really like 40 hours of that and cutscenes I don't think it interests me at all
Lol at the giant bomb haters, they all just went gaga over Outer Worlds (a game I dislike) yet they hate everything now. Come on already.
That's probably the best thing about doing a review and getting attacked for it to be honest. You get to watch as those ardent defenders finally play the game and then get real, real quiet about it. Then a year or two later there's a LTTP thread and they bag on the game like they weren't absolutely convinced it was 10/10 Game of the Generation stuff before they played it.
I'm all for people judging a product for themselves if they aren't comfortable letting another person's opinion persuade them. But saying others are too ignorant to understand it is hilarious.
So Red Bull would destroy Kojima's artistic intent, Monster stay winning.
I'm starting to think this is the best thread of 2019. If DS misses GOTY, at least its review thread delivers.
He is probably walking across the Icelandic tundra himself and learning about the culture of delivery drivers, hot springs, and peeing in the wilderness there
I've read a few reviews now and I'm pretty excited to jump into my first Kojima game.
Some talk of not much in the way of actual difficulty due to the way the game is designed....but not really a big deal,I don't need a game to be challenging to enjoy it,will probably go with very hard now anyway.
Some talk of not much in the way of actual difficulty due to the way the game is designed....but not really a big deal,I don't need a game to be challenging to enjoy it,will probably go with very hard now anyway.
Yeah weirdly I didn't like Outer Worlds either, and I love Fallout, different strokes I guess.
What kind of flaws are those? I see a lot of talk of "isolating" or "slow" or "lonely" or "repetative" but those are clearly grounded in the 9 & 10 reviews as positive traits that enhanced the experience for the reviewer. Only the (numerous) 7/10 reviews seem to see those characteristics as negatives.
Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
People are WILDIN in this thread. It's a videogame lmao.
I think it might be helpful to maybe take a step back and remember artistry, inventiveness, creativity are all great things, but they do not inherently make a game fun or engaging or enjoyable to play.
Yep, guess nothing ever really changes. A part of me wants to at least try this game but another part of me knows my gaming time is precious and this doesn't really interest me beyond wanting to be in the zeitgeist of the moment.
The fact that Dan HATES this game says pretty much everything. He was 100% right that RDR2 was a complete slog to play. So if he says that DS is even worse than the most boring open world game i have played this gen, then this will be a hard pass from me.
GOW 2018 has 118 reviews and RDR2 98 reviews on MC. Still got GQ, Edge and GB at the least all looking to be low reviews.