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Death Stranding |OT| Peace Walker
- Thread starter Kindekuma
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it's almost like the game rewards you for using its systems. It was hugely satisfying to bypass large sections of the long trek due to the building I've done before.
Hey, thanks. Yes. So far it was entering and doing Elder/Engineer/Craftsman before going to the Distribution Centre South of Lake Knot. Built the road between and first of the next slab. Spent a long time at this point doing whatever came of interest. Did the Weather Station then onto the Timefall Farm. Now just done Junkyard and put of them both on the Network.
Wondering whereabouts I am in Chapter 3 % wise so I can get a sense of how to pace the missions.
Mules seem to respawn every time I use the private room, otherwise the camp's stayed cleared for me. BT's I think come back after a while no matter what.
Ah, so judging from that you're probably about 2/3s through. I think all that's left here is: Film Director, Cosplayer, and South Knot City (with Mama's lab en-route, but you don't connect that). So basically the lower right portion of the map.
Looking through the trophy list suggests there might be a more permanent way to deal with BTs later on, but I really don't know? Kind of regretting looking, tbh. Something about "Severing Umbilical Cords".
Have you actually let it run out though? If you let the stamina bar (the one that doesn't recharge) run out, you're just prevented from sprinting. You won't lose anything worthwile by letting it drop to zero.
There's a reason why I used a turn based combat system as my example and not an action one. Death Stranding is all about making tactical choices for your trip, strategize if you will. If those tactical choices barely have drawbacks, they become meaningless. An action game can be a ton of fun even if you're not fully utilizing the toolset or if it doesn't present high difficulty. However, if for example you barely need to dodge attacks, and enemies barely attack, like in DMC2, then you're in front of a shitty action game and you won't employ the mechanics at your disposal because it's not needed. DMCV might not need you to be a virtuoso with the combos, but it certainly requires you to engage with it. Death Stranding is more similar to DMC2 than V if you ask me, but that's just my take.
And just for the record, I'm not playing the game "wrong". I always have half the weight of my cargo limit in order to be fast. I don't go out of my way to search for cumbersome routes just because they're not punishing enough, I try to go through the better route that I see. As I said, I don't like to min/max, but I like to play efficiently.
No, they do not become meaningless just because you say they do.
You're ignoring the fact that this is about creative problem solving. Refusing to engage with the systems, systems that have real depth and reward, you are putting your fingers in your ears and saying "walking around slowly climbing everywhere is so boring, nanana!".
This game requires you to engage with the systems as much as DMCV. You plod along in DMCV spamming basic attacks... or you style on enemies and speed through content with advanced techniques. You plod along slowly holding l2r2 and climbing like a snail in Death Stranding? Or you "style" on the environment and actually engage in the creative use of mechanics just like DMCV.
It's fully on YOU to create efficient and interesting routes. You're only holding yourself back by being this stubborn about it.
I've seen some gameplay of that; it's another way to dispatch them due to something that happens in chapter 6. I don't think it's permanent though.
I wish they would let you use the music player while walking around... I know they want the moments of music to have impact, but I'm actually thinking of turning off the soundtrack soon and loading up the DS spotify playlist... but then I want the context sensitive music too...
This is one of the game's problems that I don't think they solved perfectly. So much of the game's soundtrack is badass, and you can only listen to it in your private room or if you stand near structures you've customized and added the music to.
Yeah there's a mule camp near the bottom corner in the southwestern portion of the map. Sounds like you went around them!
If your stamina bar goes out while climbing on a hill, you'll lose balance and slide down the hill, usually dropping packages in the process. If it goes out while running, the game will often force you to bend over and take a breather.
+2. First thing I do whenever I enter is start playing a track. Just auto play one dammit.
Chapter 5 sandbox question:
So I just got the mission to head towards the mountains after meeting Mama. I know there's a shitload of gear I still haven't acquired from NPCs. Should I just grind for that stuff now before going to the mountain, or will that make the rest of the game feel empty in terms of upgrades and new shit?
Lmao this is so spot on. Everybody post ITT should follow this format for a day.
You are constantly unlocking new gear from new quests well past that point
from the end of the last mission where you can freely traverse the open world to the credits scrolling, it's about two hours - maybe a little less.
And, to note, the difficulty here is when you carry large loads to deliver to multiple points on a long route. Let's say, using both floating trolleys fully stacked, your back full... stamina drains fast. Especially if you keep climbing over rocks.
So you need to utilize ladders, bridges, plan routes to make sure you don't lose so much stamina that it becomes too slow.
It honestly reads like Open Wound hasn't bothered to challenge themselves to make a long chain of deliveries in an efficient way, because when you do THAT you will find the need to creatively plan routes is paramount or you will run out of stamina often, your max stamina will deplete, and you will use up your canteen. I've been in the middle of routes having just made a large string of deliveries, not near a river to replenish my canteen, half my max stamina gone, just picked up a fresh cargo to take back with me... and needed to really plan my final route to avoid running out of stamina entirely.
The challenge in this game is delivering as much as you can, as efficiently as you can, as quickly as you can... and if you do this you will absolutely find yourself running low and having to cleverly plan routes.
it's worth noting that it's not just one continuous cutscene!
Just finished Chapter 9
Yo the whole thing is fucking nuts, traversing city ruins while avoiding exploding jellyfish BTs, fighting a huge ass BT, and a showdown with Higgs that is feels like it's ripped straight from TLOU + MGS4. Whew
Also I assume that the story is going to be more linear from here on out because I don't see how cargo deliveries make sense after this point (would love to be proven wrong since I love doing those)
Also I assume that the story is going to be more linear from here on out because I don't see how cargo deliveries make sense after this point (would love to be proven wrong since I love doing those)
I just increased my connection level with the junk dealer by delivering a lot of stuff to him. I think at 4 stars is when I got them.
Hhahaha for a moment I thought it was legit from the game.
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For anyone who's seen the credits roll I have to ask if you noticed
the players you connected with were added into the credits
You're gonna have a very clear objective and are on the home stretch so yes more or less it will be more linear
i think so! after the previous missions in that area, i knew there were BTs just south-east of heartman's lab as well as at the tarpits, so i plotted a very long roundabout route that avoided every threat along the way. easily the most complex routing i did in the game, and the most enjoyable. i was sitting there for a good few minutes examining the map really closely, using the share button to rotate it so i could get more of a sense of the elevation. ended up doing the whole thing in a truck!
You can't creatively solve problems if there isn't a problem to solve. At most it's an inconvenience. Which is entirely my point through all these posts. In the end, Death Stranding is nowhere near punishing enough for me to find it engaging from a gameplay perspective.
Anyway, I'll keep playing through it. If my opinion changes, I'll return to the thread again, if not I don't really have more to add to the discussion, so I'll leave it be.
Me too lol, and I even thought her mother was her but some timefall magic happened to her.
The problem is "how do I deliver a large amount of goods in the fastest and most efficient way", you are being purpoisly obtuse now. Again, you don't need any of the advance techniques in DMCV... you use them because they're fun and make encounters faster. Same thing here.
You are refusing to acknowledge this, so have fun slowly plodding along and climbing things like a snail while the rest of us actually engage with the systems and build creative and efficient routes.
I actually probably made that trek a little too easy for myself, had a ZL all the way to the closest prepper, took a bike down the mountain, and then found a truck at the edge of the chiral network. Managed to avoid mules mostly. They started firing on me but didn't get really get in my way.
that being said, it was a pretty awesome payoff to all the previous work I had done.
Finish the game in 45 hours, what a ride.
I actualt like the ending, you can easy finish the game in 20, 25 hours.
I actualt like the ending, you can easy finish the game in 20, 25 hours.
I refuse to acknowledge this because I reject the notion that the way I'm playing is not effcient. It might not be in later parts of the game, I'm still early, but don't expect me to just acknowledge something when I fundamentally disagree with it.
Aren't the boots from the Chiral Artist's Mother? Junk Dealer gives the Ladder.
I just watched the intro again.
I'm still in Chapter 5. Should I just shut up & keep playing?
Is Bridget the literal mother of both Sam & Amelie? Why is she played by the same actress? If Amelie only made the journey west 3 years ago, why does she still look the same when we see her give little Sam the dreamcatcher even though it's supposedly been 10 years since Sam last saw everyone? Why the hell does Amelie's dress change colors for that split second?
I'm still in Chapter 5. Should I just shut up & keep playing?
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You don't even know how much more efficient you could be because you're literally ignoring systems that would make it so.
You ARE moving far, far slower than the rest of us, this is not even debatable.
It's just like chipping away at a boss with basic attacks in DMCV and ignoring the advance adoptions and saying "I AM BEING EFFICiENT".
You are not.
won´t lie this is the first game in a LONG time where i think about doing all the contact stuff now instead of finishing the story. i am somewhere in 2/3 and i want that this game lasting a bit longer for me. knocking out contact stars at the moment
it is so good how you can customize the gameplay: i am running nonstop with the speed skeleton and floaters attached to me, carrying multiple PCC´s to build like a madman(generators to keep on running lol) running headfront into MULE territory and wrecking shop, i am smiling all the time when playing the game this way, it is hilarious :-)
it is so good how you can customize the gameplay: i am running nonstop with the speed skeleton and floaters attached to me, carrying multiple PCC´s to build like a madman(generators to keep on running lol) running headfront into MULE territory and wrecking shop, i am smiling all the time when playing the game this way, it is hilarious :-)
Ha, you're right. I got the two mixed up. Yeah, you get them from the artist's mother starting at 3 stars.
I started what I thought was the ending at 9pm and it was actually finished around 11:30.
