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Death Stranding Mafia |OT| Bridge the Divides in Society (Via Murder)
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Make the world burn. Free me from this argument. You will get hugs. Unless they are unwanted. In which case you will get recognition.
LOL mine is pretty long, especially compared to Ket's (and not as funny, either)
My five cents is that Gorlak didn't ask for a direct quote from your PM and just worded his question for more information from you with that specific line because you didn't clarify if "weird spooky things" was actually a verbatim term from your PM. Don't think he's being unreasonable here at all.
*takes a deep breath*
kits.
I was marked by a handprint which I assumed to be from a neutral
you come forward and claim you are a neutral hunting cop. weird spooky thing.
I ask is weird spooky thing everything you got?
Because.. how do these two go together?
Why are you not a real cop? etc.
I just can't. If it's illogical to you, fine. I don't care anymore.
We've wasted enought time and space with this.
kits.
I was marked by a handprint which I assumed to be from a neutral
you come forward and claim you are a neutral hunting cop. weird spooky thing.
I ask is weird spooky thing everything you got?
Because.. how do these two go together?
Why are you not a real cop? etc.
I just can't. If it's illogical to you, fine. I don't care anymore.
We've wasted enought time and space with this.
sleep is for the weak
and for the redead
what if sleep is only death for 20 minuets at a time?
I read it as being unsatisfied with anything less than verbatim. It read as weirdly demanding.
It's fine, we can come back to this when it's less heated for both of us. We are talking completely past one another.
My takeaway is that it was probably indeed a neutral that marked me.
And kits is likely telling the truth, and town.
This would make a 3 scum member team more likely. Kits said the same before.
And kits is likely telling the truth, and town.
This would make a 3 scum member team more likely. Kits said the same before.
Dr. Monkey why do assume that the response you get is actual info when it's from the dead? Why did you sell it from the get go as a definitve red check?
Yeah. Could you reveal who marked you? I'll track them tonight.
Monkey is probably town too. This is such a weird thing to make up. Scum have been given full fake claims, but monkey pulling this D2? Nah.
Which means I have to look at Mao again.
Which means I have to look at Mao again.
That was a bluff and the culprit called it. I was surprised that no one mentioned Ketkat already flipping a variation of self-watcher because I'm definitely not one.
I hoped to get some reactions, but the responses were rare. *afair* Kalor was the first to ask about it. Mao assumed it was a scum power. Monkey acknowledged sth. happened. And Fantomas later asks if we all ignore this. Lastly Fran asks directly if I know who it was. And I don't.
This is all I've got.
And why have you been avoiding this question I've seen pop up several times Monkey?
I can't really get a good read on Fat at all yet, he's a firm Null in my mind. He's kind of poking and prodding with questions, but I don't really know what his reads are or who he thinks is suspicious here.
Hey now, the Amnesiac Cop was pretty helpful! ;)
That was a sense that I got a bit, yeah. Like Mao was clinging to someone who seemed to be on his side here still, and was trying to boost your arguments against Monkey by using the "safety net" term that you originally used.
I can see where Fran is coming from here, it does seem like an ability a Neutral would have. That being said, I can also see whoever is making the handprints as being a Neutral as well, perhaps an Arsonist type role of some kind? That's what makes it harder for me to think of Kits as a Neutral here for now at least.
Yeah, I'll also say, I still think Mao is Scum regardless of the new context that we have about Monkey's power.
I either die on N1, or live long enough to become pocketed by the whole Scum team, so yeah, good call.
Yeah, like I said above, if it is the one that put the handprint on Gorlak, I could see that being an Arsonist type role, which is a powerful Neutral role.
Ok, didn't see this yet when I made my last post asking for you to clarify on that. So you do know for sure that dead players are involved when it comes to the questions being asked by you.
Yeah, Gorlak had originally seemed like he knew who targeted him with the "this is your chance to claim before I reveal" thing, which I wouldn't expect anyone to come forward with a claim about this, so if he knows who did it, why not say it? Confusing.
Probably not, but it does point to a pretty obvious flavor connection between the two roles in my opinion, and since Kits came out with her's before you claimed the handprint thing, I think it makes a bit more sense than normal flavor speculation.
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There have probably been some more posts since this, so I will try to continue getting caught up, but I leave for work in about 40 minutes or so, so don't expect too much more from me yet.
The culprit called it? Maybe I'm just slow here but who's the culprit?
Let me address some threads (strands??) on this and then I have some stuff about kits.
during the twilight window, Nat has to have dead players active who can and will answer
or it's flavor and he just gives me some answer, which may or may not be trustworthy
I find the latter more likely. Also because I can only reference a single player and can't ask general things (like I can't ask "did the mafia kill x" to check for multiple kill sources, this was a sample I asked about, or "who should I vote for") it makes me thing it might be a target thing? But I can't say for certain.
But from EoD it seems really unlikely that a sample size of one turmoil would say Maol is scum. Like in a vacuum, I don't think turmoil turns on Maol there. So it's either:
-not actually from dead players
-bastard fuckery
-if from dead player(s), they're spoiled
-if from dead player(s), they are pointing and laughing
Short answer: I don't know. I asked about this and got a big shrug. Slightly longer answer: This is why I have some concern I could have a hidden modifier that RNGes or impacts response, which is a kind of fuckery that might make more sense than actually speaking to dead players. Because like, mechanically, what's more likely:
during the twilight window, Nat has to have dead players active who can and will answer
or it's flavor and he just gives me some answer, which may or may not be trustworthy
I find the latter more likely. Also because I can only reference a single player and can't ask general things (like I can't ask "did the mafia kill x" to check for multiple kill sources, this was a sample I asked about, or "who should I vote for") it makes me thing it might be a target thing? But I can't say for certain.
you and me both, Gorlak
The answer/result I received did not seem like it came from turmoil directly. I specifically got that Maol was not aligned with town. So back again to what I have earlier in the post and the other posts - I don't know. I'm sure Nat is cackling.
It's possible, both from the game being bastard and from the role itself.the red check feels less like a red check and more like a red assumption if true
to me at least
But from EoD it seems really unlikely that a sample size of one turmoil would say Maol is scum. Like in a vacuum, I don't think turmoil turns on Maol there. So it's either:
-not actually from dead players
-bastard fuckery
-if from dead player(s), they're spoiled
-if from dead player(s), they are pointing and laughing
Kalor, 100%, since I can NEVER read him and am almost always wrong.
I ignored it because of my own role and I was waiting to see what you'd do when I revealed mine, lol, but okay then.
Ok, go ahead and scratch this part from my last quote wall:
Is "hi im a backpack" a funnier profile quote for me than "my favourite cake is pie" because we could petition the mods
Yeah, if you want my opinion, I'd say a possible neutral would be outside those people, except for Kalor because he specifically asked if I knew the intent behind the handprint.
Also for those paying attention i tried something new with my claim today and actually waited to see who teased out the threads of discussion i was expecting in order to determine who was paying attention and solving the game
Woo strategy
Woo strategy
In line with mechanics, you mean? Because that's actually pretty interesting - kits hasn't much speculated on game state or players, but went from mechanics talk to claim. Now, her claim, like mine, is pretty fucking weird and with what I have I'm inclined to believe it's not made up or anything, but I don't know if it does get us much closer to solving, even knowing it might relate to what happened to you, Gorlak.
Been thinking a lot about that handprint and there are sinister af implications there.
I agree that single-player-hunters are usually neutral - it's why I asked about win con - but if it's like an arsonist type or something, maybe? The target, I mean. Probably not actual arsonist with the flavor but something along those lines.
man I empathize with this
I think it's brilliant to take all these half ideas from the reveals and stitch them together tho.
Help me understand this: Did you get a "maol is not town" answer or did you asked "Is Maol town?" and the answer is just "No".
I actually addressed this previously so don't frame this shit like it's some kinda gotcha. I'm doing the best I can here with a really weird role.
I said early on that the results/answer I got was clear: Maolfunction is not aligned with town. That's why I referred to it as a red check with caveats. I don't know if something is going on but it was phrased like a regular check even though I'm an information role rather than investigative. And then last night I said that it was exciting to get this. I mean, legit I did not think that Nat would like me ask such a straightforward question considering I have to have them approved so when he took it and I got this, it felt like a lightning strike but as the day has worn on I've felt a hell of a lot less certain about it.
Put yourself in my shoes here.
Okay, so I have a mock interview today and a real one tomorrow, so I'm gonna need to go do stuff. I'll be back later but it's going to be a bit outside of occasional mobile checkins.
I think we should keep Maol on the table, considering, and figure out how what to do with the information I got. But I don't think it's all we should talk about because it gives folks some room to hide.
I think we should keep Maol on the table, considering, and figure out how what to do with the information I got. But I don't think it's all we should talk about because it gives folks some room to hide.