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Kopite

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,018
With regards to Kits she's solid neutral in my eyes. Sure her vote for you raised eyebrows but she backed it up sufficiently and I haven't seen anything else from her so far that registers on my scum radar
You've mentioned neutral twice now, do you mean null? Kits getting riled up seems feels a little townish to me
 

malus

Member
Oct 30, 2017
2,947

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
Kitsunelaine - Mild town read, though few interactions, but spot probably replaced, so nothing much to say here.
Fran - Honestly, null. I see some people putting Fran down as town and I would maybe give that a slight edge for questions and engagement but Fran seems mild here compared to games I've played with him in the past and that rings some alarm bells for me. Would not vote today but very much on my watch list.
Maolfunction - Really all there is here is the noise generated by a random vote, which is NAI. Null pending more activity.
malus - Hesitant town lean. malus is often in the background but nothing cagey here so far, though I might do a reread this afternoon just in case.
Fat4All - Fatdog is a tough read but I don't think I'd vote d1. Scum Fat4all tends to try to blend more so my lean here is slight town.
Kalor - I truly have no idea. Feels a little opportunistic but I can rarely read Kalor even as days progress. I don't think I've EVER read him correctly. Solid null, possible scum lean if turmoil happens to be town.
Ketkat - Light on content, but town lean
Vincent Alexander - Nothing whatsoever. Would vote. Poor game entry followed by disappearance feels more scummy than not to me.
Kopite - Town lean, would not vote today.
turmoil7 - Have posted at length on turmoil and the back peddling about me+Fran being a joke doesn't fly with me. Scum.
Meatwad - Null for now, but a little more engagement today that I want to watch as we move into end of day.
Fandorin - Faint scum lean, but honestly would not vote Fando d1 because some of it just seems like it might be odd phrasing/difference of approach. I'd definitely rather see how he develops over another phase.
Gorlak - Feeling like Gorlak and I were just talking past each other, so I'll file him as not-a-vote for now but don't really have a proper read as yet, pending further developments.
Fantomas - Some weirdness settling in but as the day has progressed, has felt very town - not just meta town, but engaging, curious town.
 

Fandorin

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,356
I'm stealing Fran's list who stole it from Fantomas :

Would Vote Today:
Kalor
Meatwad
Vincent Alexander

Would Consider But Not Likely:
turmoil7
malus
Fat4all
Kopite
Kitsune
Ketkat
Maol
Monkey

Would Not Vote Today:
Gorlak
Fantomas
Fran

****

No one has set off my scum alarm so far, and I don't have enough to make a compelling case on any of my scum reads so far, but right now I'm leaning over a VOTE: Meatwad. He threw out a vote on turmoil after Fantomas "pressured" people to start voting and didn't bother explaining any other read until now after Gorlak prodded him again.

Kalor has this same modus operandi so far as scum or town, but the Meatwad wagon looks more compelling now.
 
Oct 26, 2017
19,745
Welp, I'm caught up. My feelings are.....I could land on Turmoil. But I don't know if that is because I really think Turmoil is iffy, or because I'm just chasing a wagon. My early reads are always shit.
 

Kopite

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,018
I'm turning in for tonight, we'll log back on about an hour before EOD. Happy to leave my vote where it is for now
 
Oct 26, 2017
19,745
I'm not a fan of voting Turmoil at the moment because that train looks strong, and I'd like there to be some competition to drive discussion. Sooo.

VOTE: Meatwad

Turmoil has a vote here also, so should be a fun park to try and get a fire going.
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
I'm not a fan of voting Turmoil at the moment because that train looks strong, and I'd like there to be some competition to drive discussion. Sooo.

VOTE: Meatwad

Turmoil has a vote here also, so should be a fun park to try and get a fire going.
The train that has three people on it now, one of whom is the person you're now voting?
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
I just want to state for the record that I've been doing would/would not vote lists since Fanto was in short pants, goddammit.
 

turmoil7

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,181
At a risk for myself as I am everybody's first or second choice I think giving a push to those other wagons may be useful later on

VOTE:vicent alexander
 

Ketkat

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,727
I'm not really in the mood for mafia today so I'll only be around at end of day if I'm not banned.

I'll undo this for now though

unvote
 

Fandorin

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,356
Welp, I'm caught up. My feelings are.....I could land on Turmoil. But I don't know if that is because I really think Turmoil is iffy, or because I'm just chasing a wagon. My early reads are always shit.
I'm not a fan of voting Turmoil at the moment because that train looks strong, and I'd like there to be some competition to drive discussion. Sooo.

VOTE: Meatwad

Turmoil has a vote here also, so should be a fun park to try and get a fire going.
Did you had a previous read on Meatwad and turmoil? There are a lot of disclaimers on both posts and it looks like you're not putting your foot down in either read.
 
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Natiko

Natiko

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,263
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

Meatwad (3 votes)
Fantomas - #123 #168
Fran - #321
turmoil7 - #323 #371
Fandorin - #364
Vincent Alexander - #367

turmoil7 (3 votes)
Gorlak - #108
Fantomas - #187 #317
Meatwad - #213
Dr. Monkey - #274 #363
Kalor - #280

Vincent Alexander (2 votes)
Dr. Monkey - #363
turmoil7 - #371

Fat4all (1 votes)
turmoil7 - #130 #205
Ketkat - #169 #373
Kopite - #272

Gorlak (1 votes)
Kitsunelaine - #109
Fantomas - #168 #187

Kalor (1 votes)
Fantomas - #317
turmoil7 - #322 #323

Ketkat (1 votes)
Maolfunction - #209

Maolfunction (1 votes)
turmoil7 - #205 #293
malus - #295

Kopite (0 votes)
turmoil7 - #50 #82

Fran (0 votes)
Kitsunelaine - #80 #109

Dr. Monkey (0 votes)
Fantomas - #52 #123
turmoil7 - #293 #322

Not voting: Fat4all, Ketkat

Post Counts:
Fantomas: 49 Dr. Monkey: 42 turmoil7: 36 Fandorin: 33 Gorlak: 28 Kitsunelaine: 26 Kopite: 18 Fran: 17 Fat4all: 16 Maolfunction: 16 Meatwad: 14 Vincent Alexander: 10 Ketkat: 9 malus: 7 Kalor: 5

Current Countdown:
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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't think Meatwad is the right lynch here. Feels like scared town. People were ignoring him until I mentioned him being a low hanging fruit. Fran got the ball rolling in #320/21, which is giving me pause about him (fran) at least something to note later. Who has played with Meatwad before? Fantomas you're always a sucker for meta.

Vincent though, let's see how things develop.
 

turmoil7

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,181
I assume this has changed since you've scattered your vote everywhere, including among these players?
More or less, I didn't have a strong opinion before nor do I do now, and I am not really in a position rn where I can say I won't vote one of them if it comes to it

From want to lunch more to less, I would go: Malus(too set on me and maol), Kalor, VA, Kopite

I think Kopite has some bursts of activity here and there so I feel a little better about him
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
I wouldn't vote Meatwad. If Meatie is scum it'll come out; with this group I don't think he could hide for too long. Too many sharp eyes here.
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
More or less, I didn't have a strong opinion before nor do I do now, and I am not really in a position rn where I can say I won't vote one of them if it comes to it

From want to lunch more to less, I would go: Malus(too set on me and maol), Kalor, VA, Kopite

I think Kopite has some bursts of activity here and there so I feel a little better about him
So since you scumread me, you're saying that I would start a train on my scummate with the votes as they were?
 

Fanto

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Oct 25, 2017
11,863
Just getting caught up now on break. Still fine with my vote for now.
I just want to state for the record that I've been doing would/would not vote lists since Fanto was in short pants, goddammit.
This is true, I stole it from Monkey lol.
I'm not really in the mood for mafia today so I'll only be around at end of day if I'm not banned.

I'll undo this for now though

unvote
As others have said, I hope you feel better soon. <3
I don't think Meatwad is the right lynch here. Feels like scared town. People were ignoring him until I mentioned him being a low hanging fruit. Fran got the ball rolling in #320/21, which is giving me pause about him (fran) at least something to note later. Who has played with Meatwad before? Fantomas you're always a sucker for meta.

Vincent though, let's see how things develop.
Meatwad actually feels fine for now to me reading his recent posts, I know i said I'd vote him today, but I might back off that idea now.
 

Fandorin

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,356
More or less, I didn't have a strong opinion before nor do I do now, and I am not really in a position rn where I can say I won't vote one of them if it comes to it

From want to lunch more to less, I would go: Malus(too set on me and maol), Kalor, VA, Kopite

I think Kopite has some bursts of activity here and there so I feel a little better about him
Can you point me to this? I thought his vote on Maol and read on you were fairly non committal.
I wouldn't vote Meatwad. If Meatie is scum it'll come out; with this group I don't think he could hide for too long. Too many sharp eyes here.
You don't think the same applies to Vincent?
 

Fanto

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'll be back in a couple hours, then yeah I'll try to take a late lunch so I can be here for EoD
 
Oct 26, 2017
19,745
The train that has three people on it now, one of whom is the person you're now voting?
Honestly, when I voted, I didn't realize Turmoil was down to 3. But still, when they were at 4, they were already at 50% majority for the day. I just wanted a vote somewhere not Turmoil.

Did you had a previous read on Meatwad and turmoil? There are a lot of disclaimers on both posts and it looks like you're not putting your foot down in either read.
Meatwad? 0 read. Turmoil? Not much more, but something in me gut. The Turmoil post that made my ears go up a bit was the post about "Sooo....where is everyone else voting today?" (Paraphrasing). Gave me the vibe of scum playing the town role of trying to be helpful, get discussion going, etc.
 

Kalor

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Oct 25, 2017
19,625
Yay, activity! Looks like Kalor didn't show up again. It's going to be hard to see something pro active from you this early, huh?

Anyway looks like votes moved a bit, people are looking for other leads, most of it boils down to low activity though. I don't disagree about going there.

I caught up on the thread when I could on my breaks, I didn't not show up. I'm on my way home so I'll be more active later.
 
Oct 26, 2017
19,745
Welp, enough folks came out and said this isn't a good spot for a vote, so let me rip this right outta here . . .
UNVOTE


I know you're asking Monkey, but I would say the same does apply to Vincent. I'll be keeping an eye on him, my meta there is strong, if hes not Town I'll figure it out soon enough.
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Dr. Monkey

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Oct 25, 2017
15,029
Can you point me to this? I thought his vote on Maol and read on you were fairly non committal.

You don't think the same applies to Vincent?
Nope. As I said earlier, VA had a bad entrance and then poofed and that's a classic scum move. Also some inconsistencies I don't love there. My vote today will be between him and turmoil unless something changes. Meatie, on the other hand, just flailed a little but also stayed in thread. There's scum Meat meta to compare to AND it felt less agenda-driven than some others.
 

Dr. Monkey

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Oct 25, 2017
15,029
And my hot take for the day is that Fran's relative low key presence feels bad but not bad enough to vote d1.
 
Oct 26, 2017
19,745
Nope. As I said earlier, VA had a bad entrance and then poofed and that's a classic scum move. Also some inconsistencies I don't love there. My vote today will be between him and turmoil unless something changes. Meatie, on the other hand, just flailed a little but also stayed in thread. There's scum Meat meta to compare to AND it felt less agenda-driven than some others.
Being inconsistent is the most consistent thing I do! But I understand the vote. My productivity is pretty terrible day 1, so I mostly try to skate by and pray no one minds me. Much easier to do in larger games. Not so much in this one.
 

Fran

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Oct 25, 2017
6,167
Fran - Honestly, null. I see some people putting Fran down as town and I would maybe give that a slight edge for questions and engagement but Fran seems mild here compared to games I've played with him in the past and that rings some alarm bells for me. Would not vote today but very much on my watch list.

I kinda agree with this read on me. I know that I have pretty mild this day, mostly because almost nothing is going on. There is nothing much to talk and I'm trying to create some content but I know that I'm not prodding enought.

Kopite - Town lean, would not vote today.

Can you explain this one? Because there is nothing that makes me think that Kopite could be a town lean.

I don't think Meatwad is the right lynch here. Feels like scared town. People were ignoring him until I mentioned him being a low hanging fruit. Fran got the ball rolling in #320/21, which is giving me pause about him (fran) at least something to note later. Who has played with Meatwad before? @Fantomas you're always a sucker for meta.

Vincent though, let's see how things develop.

My vote was obviously a prod vote because his low activity. He claimed that he was around and checking the thread but just not posting so maybe a vote would help him participate. And it kinda did because he made a couple of post with some thoughts behind them.

Right now I'm between Turmoil and VA. That vote/unvote on Meatwad seems like a player trying to jump on a wagon and then being worried when people started to call him out.
 

Fandorin

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,356
Welp, enough folks came out and said this isn't a good spot for a vote, so let me rip this right outta here . . .
UNVOTE
...

Let me get this straight. You're unvoting from Meatwad after going there with admittedly 0 reasoning other than the fact that you didn't want to vote for turmoil (who seems to be your only scum read/lean right now, because the wagon got some heat?
Who are you going for now then?!

Fantomas I hope you're right on that meta read of yours.
 
Oct 26, 2017
19,745
I need Rac to mentor me in the ways of being low-key and not providing reads without drawing attention.


Right now I'm between Turmoil and VA. That vote/unvote on Meatwad seems like a player trying to jump on a wagon and then being worried when people started to call him out.
I mentioned that I wanted to drive discussion, and discussion was had! Very useful for a player like me who is not good at day 1 reads. But as I also mentioned, 0 read on Meatwad. No chance I was going to keep a vote there. If I really wanted to hop on a wagon, I'd have slapped myself down on Turmoil.
 
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Natiko

Natiko

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Oct 25, 2017
9,263
Just wanted to provide a quick update - it is unlikely a replacement will be made prior to day end. Please continue as you were.