Oh, I totally thought that was a pun with my username lol.no this is your first time playing mafia erego you're a frando
fran+rando
frando.
Yeah, I'm guessing he's mostly thinking about those votes on Fran and Monkey, but I can't see how a joke vote on Kopite could possibly matter for a Fran x Monkey discussion.Not much going on I suppose, add me onto the "What does Turmoil mean by that exactly?" list with the thing about Fran and Monkey.
By my count, the only people we haven't heard from yet are Mao, Meatwad, and Gorlak, so we've mostly all checked in by now at least so that's cool.
I'll be up for a little bit still just getting ready for bed, then in the morning for a couple hours before work most likely.
Yeah, it just sticks out I guess because it's so early on D1 still, and neither the vote on Monkey nor the vote on Fran came in with serious reasons attached. Unless he was just fucking around as well, otherwise I don't really understand that being the reason to remove his random Kopite vote.Yeah, I'm guessing he's mostly thinking about those votes on Fran and Monkey, but I can't see how a joke vote on Kopite could possibly matter for a Fran x Monkey discussion.
Did we ever play together?
Otherwise turmoil starting with a baseless vote is a thing to think about but not much on its own
No one should be under any "let's not vote out xy on D1" excuse in this game. If you spot a flimsy vote, act on it and get this game moving.Where do we stand on the "Lets not vote traditionally strong town players out on D1 if the vote is flimsy(like most D1 votes)?
I agree this is worth watching - but turmoil often gets voted out early for stuff like this as either alignment so I'm not sure it's super indicative.Turmoil being super aware of being called out, unvoting because of that and giving an iffy excuse
vote: turmoil7
Other than that it's your usual D1.
Yes! Technically we briefly played together in my first game, GoT, where you subbed in for about an hour and then Monkey killed you that night because she's mean.
What makes someone a traditionally strong Town player? Someone might say that I would be considered one, but I would laugh at that suggestion and refer them to plenty of my more famous blunders.Where do we stand on the "Lets not vote traditionally strong town players out on D1 if the vote is flimsy(like most D1 votes)?
Yeah, it just sticks out I guess because it's so early on D1 still, and neither the vote on Monkey nor the vote on Fran came in with serious reasons attached. Unless he was just fucking around as well, otherwise I don't really understand that being the reason to remove his random Kopite vote.
I was maybe thinking about moving my vote somewhere else before I go to bed, but I'll just wait and see if anything else sparks up in the morning I guess.
there's no accounting for tasteOoof, still slow going, I see. Well, there are a few things worth speaking out about, I guess. I'll try to spread them out for ease of quotability, though I wanted to say - kits, it was better when Frando was a joke on Fanto/Fando. tsk.
Gave up during that big post on VA? It was a handful of sentences. Fluff, yes; mountains from molehills, yes. But gave up? thinkingemojiFantomas over analysis on Vincent and that single off hand post from Kalor didn't ring any bells to me. Didn't seem fake to me at least, though I confess I gave up midway during that big post on VA.
Yeah, I'm guessing he's mostly thinking about those votes on Fran and Monkey, but I can't see how a joke vote on Kopite could possibly matter for a Fran x Monkey discussion.
While this may be true, I've also won every game in which I lynched turmoil #truthfactsI agree this is worth watching - but turmoil often gets voted out early for stuff like this as either alignment so I'm not sure it's super indicative.
Ah, yes - one rather short instance (I will never count GoT as a game I played, ever :p) In turn I feel like I've followed enough games with you to have a good grasp on you. Can you say the same?Yes! Technically we briefly played together in my first game, GoT, where you subbed in for about an hour and then Monkey killed you that night because she's mean.
Then we played in Brexit 2, again very briefly, as I was murdered by the Scum team on N1.
I did make a note of that one, yeah. I couldn't quite tell if it was just Fando easing into the game or if there was actual discomfort in that post. The second one you quoted gave me similar vibes, like I felt the need to reiterate to him why I felt weird about that, so I did.Gave up during that big post on VA? It was a handful of sentences. Fluff, yes; mountains from molehills, yes. But gave up? thinkingemoji
It's still early but if Fanto does just sit on that vote instead of zipping it around (or any single vote, on me or someone else), it's sus, 100%.
Let's see, other than Brexit 2, I'm trying to remember the last game you played, were you in one last season?Ah, yes - one rather short instance (I will never count GoT as a game I played, ever :p) In turn I feel like I've followed enough games with you to have a good grasp on you. Can you say the same?
Is that always a situation in which he was scum or...? Because I'm not interested in your win condition unless it's town's. :PWhile this may be true, I've also won every game in which I lynched turmoil #truthfacts
yeah, but it's also the truest true of meta reads, so don't deflect, young padawanLook at all these early meta reads on me from Monkey! I feel honored. And I am also working on somewhere to move my vote, I'm just having some breakfast quick first.
*whistles innocently*
He was town both times, one time I won as scum (Mini 4) and one time as town (Brexit 2).Is that always a situation in which he was scum or...? Because I'm not interested in your win condition unless it's town's. :P
I would assume 3 Scum + 1 Neutral, or else some kind of recruitment ability for Scum just based on Gamerunner Meta, but it's all just assumptions at this point and something I can point back to later and go "Ha, I knew it!"Since some of you are here, do you all mind to do the numbers dance early, so we are done with it?
15 players, role madness, bastardly
We got either 3 scum with good powers or 4 weak scum.
1 neutral is possible, not with 4 scum though
I don't blame him for being in joke phase, we kind of skipped past it quickly before everyone even checked in. If it was towards the end of the day, or D2, and he was still doing it, then I'd pressure him to play more I think.Any thoughts about Fat4all who seems to be stuck in joke phase?
(but I do love your MGS references Fat, please don't stop, just start playing the game as well)
We have absolutely nothing to base scum powers on outside of our own role PMs and even that's a really weak comparison because some may have stronger powers and some weaker. This is the the most baseless base speculation in a game described like this one.Since some of you are here, do you all mind to do the numbers dance early, so we are done with it?
15 players, role madness, bastardly
We got either 3 scum with good powers or 4 weak scum.
1 neutral is possible, not with 4 scum though
...Any thoughts about @Fat4all who seems to be stuck in joke phase?
Oh yeah, I remember this now because I thought you were being Town as Fuck on D1, when you were actually trying to not be so Townie because you wanted to get voted for to use your power lol.
We shouldn't consider [perfectly reasonable concern] because role madnessWe have absolutely nothing to base scum powers on outside of our own role PMs and even that's a really weak comparison because some may have stronger powers and some weaker. This is the the most baseless base speculation in a game described like this one.
Walk me through what we know about scum powers, turmoil.We shouldn't consider [perfectly reasonable concern] because role madness
Fancorin did a good job there, thanks palBut you've entered back into the game now while sidestepping all the questions people asked you earlier, did you want to answer those for us?
I guess "gave up" was too strong an expression? I read it, I just realized it was mostly fluff and that it hadn't grabbed my attention.Now, the first thing that really has stuck out to me so far:
Gave up during that big post on VA? It was a handful of sentences. Fluff, yes; mountains from molehills, yes. But gave up? thinkingemoji
This, tho:
Fando, why are you answering for someone who didn't answer for themselves and explaining it away?
Just the 15-25% scum design principle, nothing big brain hereWalk me through what we know about scum powers, turmoil.
I'm waiting.
Please tell me we aren't past the joke phase yet. It is Day 1 and I don't have it out of my system yet.Any thoughts about Fat4all who seems to be stuck in joke phase?
(but I do love your MGS references Fat, please don't stop, just start playing the game as well)
But then also remember Nat's last game, House of Horrors, where he did not follow that rule at all and it was also advertised as being more on the Bastard side of things like this one is.
Please tell me we aren't past the joke phase yet. It is Day 1 and I don't have it out of my system yet.
I never said I had a problem with the numbers. I said I had an issue with speculating on powers because we have nothing but our own role PMs to go on.
that's my secret vincePlease tell me we aren't past the joke phase yet. It is Day 1 and I don't have it out of my system yet.
Is that a typo or a fusion of mine with another player? lol
What "traditional strong town player" made a flimsy vote to you? Are you thinking about turmoil?Where do we stand on the "Lets not vote traditionally strong town players out on D1 if the vote is flimsy(like most D1 votes)?
In case someone didn't see this.[Game Rules Post]
Game Specific Info:
1. Scum have been provided full fake claims.
I didn't, that's good to know
Nope, it's dumb "look busy" effort and the fact that turmoil was also pushing it after Gorlak started it makes me wonder about the two of them together, d1 early vote aside. That's my hot take for now.I guess 4 scum team sounds plausible in a vaccum, but, as always, trying to discuss numbers now with no flips or mechanics known can be misleading. No one is going to base their vote on this now anyway.
Oh shit, I did not see this. So scum has extra information on top of team info since my guess is that their fake claims wouldn't overlap with real powers, unless Nat was feeling particularly evil.
Yeah, I found weird how that info wasn't in red or something. I'm guessing scum can't pretend that their real roles are actually town PRs.Oh shit, I did not see this. So scum has extra information on top of team info since my guess is that their fake claims wouldn't overlap with real powers, unless Nat was feeling particularly evil.
I guess I'd find it suspicious if it was a coaster doing this, but neither Gorlak or turmoil need to look busy on D1 like this.Nope, it's dumb "look busy" effort and the fact that turmoil was also pushing it after Gorlak started it makes me wonder about the two of them together, d1 early vote aside. That's my hot take for now.