"Playing it wrong"
Gosh thats the most BS counterpoint someone can come up with, especially in an open world game about hiking
Gosh thats the most BS counterpoint someone can come up with, especially in an open world game about hiking
hyperbolic negativity surrounding it which often comes from people who haven't even tried it
Dunkey thread has given rise to A True Hero of the Web.I'm done with resetera. I'm definitely not done with video games, I end up playing 10-20 new games every year, that will probably never change. But this game really made me realize I no longer give a shit about anything you guys have to say. It made me realize that video game reviewers mean nothing to me anymore. For so long have I been a child, now I can look into the mirror and truly see a woman looking back at me. I no longer put any stock into the opinions or thoughts of people on the internet, from now on, I trust myself and those I consider closest to me in real life.
This is probably the single best game I've played this entire generation. It's one of the funnest games I've played in years. I've played all of your favourite games. I'm probably better at most of them than most of you guys are, I've played literally hundreds of video games released this decade of all sorts of different genres and styles.
There are a few of you guys out there who are alright, keep on keeping on. But eventually you guys too will realize you're like me: you truly fucking love video games with all your heart, it's probably impossible to change that about yourself. And you'll realize your posting on a forum full of complete morons who don't even play video games, they just enjoy shitposting about them. These are people who are essentially broken on the inside and have likely lost most of their ability to enjoy things. The type of people who complain about stagnation in the industry, and when arguably the most revolutionary game of the decade drops, they all gang up together to pretend that it isn't even a video game, when in reality Death Stranding is basically the most video gamey video game of all time.
Yes mate, saying the hyperbolic negativity is often from players who haven't played it is true, that is NOT the same thing as saying "people who dislike this game haven't played it".Oh, right, is that the part when you said:
and then tried to argue that that's not what you meant, at all? Okay.
No dude , this is in my top 5 of this generation and it's not ridiculous.Unfortunately now you've lost all credibility.
Unless you meant Guardians of the Galaxy, but that wouldn't make much sense.
Anyway, have fun and carry on.
Hey, people genuinely like the Michael Bay Transformers movies as well.
Plenty of people like shitty things. That's the way of the world.
And it's working, lol, I'm totally a sucker for it.Trash review.
I think the guy just didn't know how to play the game.
I literally only fell into water once.
He doesn't know how to climb mountains
This is just meant to rile people up honestly.
I literally... What.
Go, Google the definition, I'll wait.
Edit: also, it's a completely pointless debate, since I'm not trying to disprove that someone had a flawless experience.
Yes mate, saying the hyperbolic negativity is often from players who haven't played it is true, that is NOT the same thing as saying "people who dislike this game haven't played it".
Again, jfc at your constant dishonesty and/or lack of reading comprehension.
Yes, it is entirely misrepresenting what I said. I never said MOST. "Often" in this context doesn't even come close to "most" and your inability to recognise this is frightening. You are incredibly, incredibly dishonest and you can literally NEVER acknowledge your mistakes.Yep, and I said the myth is that "most" of the people who dislike it didn't play it. We can argue the finer points of distinction between "often" and "most" until the cows come home, but it's not misrepresenting what you said.
"Playing it wrong"
Gosh thats the most BS counterpoint someone can come up with, especially in an open world game about hiking
See their exchange with me above, they literally never conceded a point and always wiggle around dishonestly.Cute. I'll tell you what, I'll go and google it when you show me your numbers for the "large subset"?
Oxford English: "based on anecdotes and possibly not true or accurate "
Wikitionary: "A limited selection of examples which support or refute an argument, but which are not supported by scientific or statistical analysis."
Cambridge: " Anecdotal information is not based on facts or careful study: "
Merriam Webster: "evidence in the form of stories that people tell about what has happened to them"
So there you go. Why dont you do a quick google and show me the special definition you're using where when one person relates their experience its anecdotal but when multiple, oh sorry, when a "large subset" relate their experiences it magically isnt anecdotal?
Cute. I'll tell you what, I'll go and google it when you show me your numbers for the "large subset"?
Oxford English: "based on anecdotes and possibly not true or accurate "
Wikitionary: "A limited selection of examples which support or refute an argument, but which are not supported by scientific or statistical analysis."
Cambridge: " Anecdotal information is not based on facts or careful study: "
Merriam Webster: "evidence in the form of stories that people tell about what has happened to them"
So there you go. Why dont you do a quick google and show me the special definition you're using where when one person relates their experience its anecdotal but when multiple, oh sorry, when a "large subset" relate their experiences it magically isnt anecdotal?
Dunky's "points" were played up on purpose to frame the game in a hyperbolic way.Literally the first sentence of Wikipedia article:
"Anecdotal evidence is evidence from anecdotes: evidence collected in a casual or informal manner and relying heavily or entirely on personal testimony."
Large subset is very easily proven, actually, look up DS opencritic page or direct your eyes to the poll in this thread.
Again, nobody is claiming a lot of people didn't have fun with DS, but definedMF tried to dismiss Dunkey's points by saying "it didn't happen to me". It doesn't get more anecdotal than that, sorry.
I play lots of games, at least 1-2 a month and try to keep up with all of the big releases. It's definitley in my top 5 this generation.I dont think I've seen so many game of the generation comments one week after a games launch...apart from botw maybe.
Really makes me wonder how many games people play.
Also, like botw I wonder if games will be compared to death stranding in 3 years...like every game with botw.
His examples in the video are like that thread where someone was complaining that Bloodborne sucked, and then people found out he didn't know there was a Dodge.
Yeah, pretty much how I feel, couldn't have said it any better.30 seconds in this video and I'm done. I can't stand people playing a game stupidly the wrong way in order to make some points and grab attention. The game has a lot of depth and gameplay mechanics allowing you a lot of freedom depending on your preferences. The core of the game is still finding the best way to navigate into hostile environnement. That the game is divisive and not appealing to some folks, yeah I get it, but it is well crafted and a unique experience worth existing especially nowadays. It's not your jam ok, but it's not failure or an "everything is bad" game by any metric FFS.
Dunky's "points" were played up on purpose to frame the game in a hyperbolic way.
This is what he DOES for a career, lol.
Do you know who Dunky is?
A game about traversing... with deep, varied, and precise mechanics to do so.Again, this is a game about traversing terrain, not hyper fast combat with loads of depth,combinations and mechanics
Were they really? Because his Dunkview videos are supposed to be his real reviews.
I'll bite... Is the word in question anecdotal? If so, the Merriam-Webster definition is
Comes from the Greek anekdota which means unpublished.based on or consisting of reports or observations of usually unscientific observers (examples: anecdotal evidence, health benefits that may be more anecdotal than factual
Yes, it is entirely misrepresenting what I said. I never said MOST. "Often" in this context doesn't even come close to "most" and your inability to recognise this is frightening. You are incredibly, incredibly dishonest and you can literally NEVER acknowledge your mistakes.
Again, this is a game about traversing terrain using the tools you have, not hyper fast combat with loads of depth,combinations and mechanics
If you think his representation of the game isn't hyperbolic here, and that he isn't intentionally playing badly for lols... lmfao.
Can "try it first before you comment" people give me 60 bucks so that I can form my opinion about the game the way you folks want to?
Claven does this all the time, I don't know why I bite... it's more for the benefit of others new to his specific style of dishonesty.You shouldn't even bother really. I will say generally I've never seen it be so obvious when someone criticizes the game and hasn't played it, maybe that's due to it being centered around a delivery man.
He is intentionally playing badly and going against what the game explicitly teaches you to frame it as a janky mess to hype up his lols.See, now we're getting somewhere. It's almost as if different people can have different opinions on a piece of entertainment media.
Claven does this all the time, I don't know why I bite... it's more for the benefit of others new to his specific style of dishonesty.
Literally the first sentence of Wikipedia article:
"Anecdotal evidence is evidence from anecdotes: evidence collected in a casual or informal manner and relying heavily or entirely on personal testimony."
Large subset is very easily proven, actually, look up DS opencritic page or direct your eyes to the poll in this thread.
Again, nobody is claiming a lot of people didn't have fun with DS, but definedMF tried to dismiss Dunkey's points by saying "it didn't happen to me". It doesn't get more anecdotal than that, sorry.
"Playing it wrong"
Gosh thats the most BS counterpoint someone can come up with, especially in an open world game about hiking
"Playing it wrong"
Gosh thats the most BS counterpoint someone can come up with, especially in an open world game about hiking
I'm putting you on ignore, I'm probably going to get banned if I carry on allowing you to rile me up with your horrible dishonesty. Goodbye.This is the third time you've accused me of dishonesty. It's getting a little tiresome. Not only is this thread chock full of people equating not liking a game with not having played it, but you yourself made that connection and then tried to argue against it.
Yes, he is intentionally playing it badly. This is like walking up to a group of enemies in DS and button bashing and dying and saying "BAD GAME"."Playing it wrong"
Gosh thats the most BS counterpoint someone can come up with, especially in an open world game about hiking
But I genuinely can't believe you're arguing in good faith so I'm done.
dude you tried to argue that most and often are the same thing.Probably just as well, since you don't seem to be able or willing to grasp basic concepts.
Thank you for calling this out too, it was driving me a little nuts. <3dude you tried to argue that most and often are the same thing.
dude you tried to argue that most and often are the same thing.
I can't quite tell what the main point of disccusion in this thread is even about.
Are we taking dunkey reviews seriously?
Thought the video was funny even though I disagreed with most of what he said.
24 pages on a 'joke' review?
Yep feelings have definitely been caught.
Probably just as well, since you don't seem to be able or willing to grasp basic concepts.
This is the third time you've accused me of dishonesty. It's getting a little tiresome. Not only is this thread chock full of people equating not liking a game with not having played it, but you yourself made that connection and then tried to argue against it.
I honestly cba to search for the more sweeping statements about people not liking the game because they haven't played it ITT on phone, but they're here, trust me.
It's amazing.I'm glad after 24 pages we've finally gotten to the take of "Dunky Isn't Being Hyperbolic" lmao
yall are on one sometimes
Exactly this.
<3Ah irony, they name is Claven's bullshit. That's fairly rich coming from someone who has gone out of their way to misrepresent what people have said in the most ignorant and transparent way possible. Balls, guess I made a liar of myself.
Bollocks. They didn't say "Not liking this game is the same thing as not having played it", which would be equating (another word you arent too sure of the meaning of champ?) They said, and you cant possibly have missed it as you quoted it "hyperbolic negativity surrounding it which often comes from people who haven't even tried it" To help you out I'll explain what that sentence means, as its meaning seems to have escaped you on multiple occasions, they are saying that often (i.e. not always) the hyperbolic negativity surrounding the game comes from people who have not played it. They are, to belabor the point, not equating disliking the game with not having played it. You can tell because that's literally not what they said.
What do you mean were they really? Trying to walk on sheer cliffs and trying to climb rockfaces in manner that the game is not designed around absolutely is a willful distortion of how the game plays.Were they really? Because his Dunkview videos are supposed to be his real reviews.
The last months teached me that some people really want to believe that Death Stranding is some kind of super shitty and janky non-game. So no surprise that they take this "review" for the reality of things.If you think his representation of the game isn't hyperbolic here, and that he isn't intentionally playing badly for lols... lmfao.
Here is what happens if you try to do X on Y terrain:What do you mean were they really? Trying to walk on sheer cliffs and trying to climb rockfaces in manner that the game is not designed around absolutely is a willful distortion of how the game plays.
This is ridiculous. You should always be willing to try things you don't usually like. So what if you tend not to like westerns? Who's to say RDR might not change your mind or be something special? This line of thinking is everywhere these days and it seems like people just want everyone to stay in their comfort zones. If you don't already have an affinity for something then you shouldn't play it? That's silly.I like the way Angry Joe described the game.
"If you are not in the mood, if you are not interested in this kind of world and setting, and if you are not willing to roleplay a little, don't bother. But if you are, go for it!".
I think this is the biggest problem.
This game was made for people that like that kind of setting and are willing to invest.
But there are a lot of people scoring it based on different genres. They play it completely wrong and end up giving really unfair scores.
If I don't like reading a lot, and hate the wild west setting, I should not play an wild west point and click visual novel and give it a 0 because it is not like GTA.
It is like giving Journey a 0 because there is no fighting.
And it makes me sad, because it is so rare to have different games like that.
People that don't like this type of slow burn role-playing journey oriented games already have plenty of normal AAA action games to play.
Don't destroy rare games reputation for free like that... It is ok to not be the targeted market for once.
What do you mean were they really? Trying to walk on sheer cliffs and trying to climb rockfaces in manner that the game is not designed around absolutely is a willful distortion of how the game plays.