Kalinda Vazquez Set By Paramount To Script Original ‘Star Trek’ Movie
Kalinda Vazquez has been set by Paramount to write a 'Star Trek' movie. JJ Abrams' Bad Robot is producing. She has written for 'Star Trek: Discovery.'
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Deadline: Kalinda Vazquez Set By Paramount To Script Original ‘Star Trek’ Movie
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Let me know if it ever enters production.
They're supposedly doing another Kelvin-verse movie, and there's the Tarantino movie. I think there was another movie in the works at some point too.
Trek plans a lot of things.
They're supposedly doing another Kelvin-verse movie, and there's the Tarantino movie. I think there was another movie in the works at some point too.
Trek plans a lot of things.
I thought the Kelvin movie was dead at this point and Tarantino backed out of his.
Is Noah Hawley's movie still alive, or did that get canned because it focused on a space pandemic?
All of those have been cancelled lol
The third movie you're thinking of was Noah Hawley's.
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I'll take it over whatever the fuck Trek turned into with Nemesis, Insurrection, Enterprise and Voyager. That style of Trek committed suicide. The only place it exists now is on The Orville.
For me, Trek has never been better. 3 good films in a row, Discovery has been better every year, Picard was fine, and Lower Decks was incredible, with the Pike/Spock show still to come. I'm honestly surprised they aren't just sticking with streaming, as I'm not sure if the theatre audience is going to be there for Trek, especially after Paramount colossally fucked up by doing nothing for Beyond, letting Tarantino slip through their fingers, and not paying Pine and Hemsworth for a fourth.
It's too bad that the loud voices of the internet don't like modern Trek, but the loud voices tend to not like anything so whatever. They'll keep bitching on boards like this one that are 75% hate and make Youtube videos full of lies about cancellation, while Trek continues to be more successful than ever.
I'm really not sure Star Trek works on the big screen. The message it's meant to convey kinda gets lost amid the need for spectacle and brevity. There's a reason the best Star Trek movie is Undiscovered Country, y'know?
What does a good Star Trek movie that doesn't recycle ideas from older entries even look like? I mean I can sort of answer that for myself but as far as general consensus goes?
I always liked the Hornblower/Aubrey & Maturin styles ones the most but there are a lot of people who regard them as too militaristic and I have to admit that they clash so much with the TV iterations in ever regard that they may as well not be part of the same continuity.
The other way to approach it would be as a submarine movie, constant terror, claustrophobia, just a few sheets of aching metal separate the crew from the most hostile environment known to man. Obviously you would go for portraying comradeship, self sacrifice and devotion to the cause of the Federation. It would be a different angle for sure.
Or they keep making fun action movies with a Star Trek inspired plot, which seems to have worked out fine. Paramount should just make sure not to keep spending 200 million bucks on these movies.
I always liked the Hornblower/Aubrey & Maturin styles ones the most but there are a lot of people who regard them as too militaristic and I have to admit that they clash so much with the TV iterations in ever regard that they may as well not be part of the same continuity.
The other way to approach it would be as a submarine movie, constant terror, claustrophobia, just a few sheets of aching metal separate the crew from the most hostile environment known to man. Obviously you would go for portraying comradeship, self sacrifice and devotion to the cause of the Federation. It would be a different angle for sure.
Or they keep making fun action movies with a Star Trek inspired plot, which seems to have worked out fine. Paramount should just make sure not to keep spending 200 million bucks on these movies.
I wonder if this one will actually go full on into production. I hope it does and I hope its better than the crap CBS and Paramount have been putting out
Discovery is good, so hopefully this actually gets made.
Khan or Voyage Home. UC is pretty good but it's some also-ran shit compared to those two.
Khan or Voyage Home. UC is pretty good but it's some also-ran shit compared to those two.
So if I understand this right, this means there's actually no guarantee they'll produce it? More like testing waters?
Give Trek a good 10-20 year break. I cannot see any decent ideas come out of the current environment of franchise exploitation.
On her prior involvement with Trek:
Specifically she was a "consulting producer" on the later half of Discovery season 3, and she also wrote (in conjunction with members of the writers room) the script of one episode of it (Terra Firma Part 2, the one where Georgoiu returns from the mirror universe and departs the show, along with the reveal of the Guardian).
She also wrote the short trek "Ask Not" which was the one where Pike pretends to be a traitor to test a new crewmember's resolve.
Specifically she was a "consulting producer" on the later half of Discovery season 3, and she also wrote (in conjunction with members of the writers room) the script of one episode of it (Terra Firma Part 2, the one where Georgoiu returns from the mirror universe and departs the show, along with the reveal of the Guardian).
She also wrote the short trek "Ask Not" which was the one where Pike pretends to be a traitor to test a new crewmember's resolve.
My thoughts on big-screen Trek have been few and far between since the franchise returned to its rightful place on TV. I'm sure there are exceptions involved here but the consensus I get from fandom is more or less the same. Either they're happy with the modern shows or they aren't, but no one seems to be shouting from rooftops that the way to fix anything is via movie theaters. That's just now how Trek works, even if -- indeed, a few of its greatest stories have been told in cinemas.
My thoughts today... are more or less the same! But by all rights, Kalinda Vasquez is a cool gal. It is inevitable that someone is going to successfully create a new Star Trek movie. *shrug* May as well be her.
Now my real question is, does this thing premiere on Paramount+ simultaneously alongside theatrical release?
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My thoughts today... are more or less the same! But by all rights, Kalinda Vasquez is a cool gal. It is inevitable that someone is going to successfully create a new Star Trek movie. *shrug* May as well be her.
Now my real question is, does this thing premiere on Paramount+ simultaneously alongside theatrical release?
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Looking forward to seeing where this goes.
I don't honestly think I'd mind bombastic big screen action Trek if the TV trek was mixing it up more. While Wrath and Voyage Home were the biggest critical and commercial hits, I think Undiscovered Country is the actual template for delivering Trek with big 'movie size' stakes, relevance and humanity.
Two of the Kelvin movies were great, but you sure felt the lack of traditional Trek as a palate cleanser.
I like Discovery, and while I'm not fully up on season 3 there were hints at how good the show could be doing traditional Trek stuff while still being modern in season 2 - Saru on his home planet, the church and Pike.
Felt Picard started strong and then went off a cliff. However I will defend those first three episodes as pretty damn good.
I don't honestly think I'd mind bombastic big screen action Trek if the TV trek was mixing it up more. While Wrath and Voyage Home were the biggest critical and commercial hits, I think Undiscovered Country is the actual template for delivering Trek with big 'movie size' stakes, relevance and humanity.
Two of the Kelvin movies were great, but you sure felt the lack of traditional Trek as a palate cleanser.
I like Discovery, and while I'm not fully up on season 3 there were hints at how good the show could be doing traditional Trek stuff while still being modern in season 2 - Saru on his home planet, the church and Pike.
Felt Picard started strong and then went off a cliff. However I will defend those first three episodes as pretty damn good.
Star Trek and Beyond were both good movies, but as I think you're alluding to, they were good as fun action movies that really had little in common with the series aside from some aesthetics and some proper nouns. The less said about Into Darkness the better.
As someone who grew up on TNG and DS9, I think nearly all of the modern TV/streaming Trek stuff they are doing is just dumb and awful... so hiring one of the architects of that awfulness to make another modern Trek movies doesn't exactly make me jump for joy. But whatever - someone was inevitably going to make more of it, and I've long since accepted that the Star Trek I loved is dead (though I wasn't thrilled that they dragged Picard into the modern schlock).
It all started with Voyager, and it's been sailing further off the cliff with each new iteration.
You can expect any new Star Trek movies to continue to look to the Kelvin series for inspiration.
It came op in conversation the other day that if they ever bring back Star Trek to the big screen (whenever big screens are a thing again), it likely won't be a continuation of the existing series.
Trek 09 was, uh, 2009. Beyond was 2016. Hypothetically a new movie gets fast tracked, it's 2024. It's such a large gap, signing new contracts for Pine, Cho, and co is a stretch. Maybe it's a '09 but for TNG. Maybe it's a whole new crew. Maybe it's the old idea of having the TV/streaming show screw on a motion picture adventure. I just don't know if Kirk and the gang is realistic.
Trek 09 was, uh, 2009. Beyond was 2016. Hypothetically a new movie gets fast tracked, it's 2024. It's such a large gap, signing new contracts for Pine, Cho, and co is a stretch. Maybe it's a '09 but for TNG. Maybe it's a whole new crew. Maybe it's the old idea of having the TV/streaming show screw on a motion picture adventure. I just don't know if Kirk and the gang is realistic.
Chris Pine signed to be in a movie with Hugh Grant and Michelle Rodriguez so I dont know where his career is going. I'm going to assume this was a contract obligation for him for now.
Yep. Problem for me is they seem bent on leaving good character moments and rational plot beats for bombastic sequences and thick melodrama. Part of the charm of trek for me, was that it did feel like it could be a real crew sometime in our future. That hasn't been the case for a while.
Expanse has lately scratched that itch. No big speeches talking to the cameras with extras standing around looking bored. No forced dialogue that you would never expect to hear outside of a stage production or bad melodrama tv.
Their fan service, likewise, feels pandering and unearned.
It's a real shame that the Kelvin films faltered so badly. I adore the first and like the two sequels but they never took off like they needed to.
I enjoyed watching TNG, but Star Trek as a franchise isn't inherently appealing to me (or the general audience it seems like) so I'll just try to keep an open mind to whichever of the 600 ideas actually gets made into a movie.
I enjoyed watching TNG, but Star Trek as a franchise isn't inherently appealing to me (or the general audience it seems like) so I'll just try to keep an open mind to whichever of the 600 ideas actually gets made into a movie.
Give me a TNG episode like The Drumhead over a thousand hours of modern Trek with the pew pew and splosions.
Oooo can't wait to see a bunch of broody angsty people be jerks to each other and throw around quick quips while shit blows up all around them.
assumptions aside. God, give us something good PLEASE
assumptions aside. God, give us something good PLEASE
They can do action films and still feel like Trek. First Contact and Beyond were great. 2009 wasn't bad either.
Yeah heavily action Trek movies can work, but it seems like more often they don't... at least as recognizable Trek. Since Trek filmmakers tend to be so worried about boring the audience, I always thought a Trek pure horror movie would pretty cool. No idea how they'd pull it off though.
I genuinely always thought that Voyage Home was such a smash that it was top when adjusted, I see I have not kept up.
You can expect any new Star Trek movies to continue to look to the Kelvin series for inspiration.
It hurts to see Into Darkness at #2.
I don't think any of these numbers are adjusted for inflation. Kelvin series even so is still ahead.
This chart is domestic only, as well. International number were also 2X-3X as much for the Kelvin series, although arguably that has more to do with how the international market has exploded in the time since the older films.
Here's the link to the chart.
I've noticed in my lifetime that with movies and game series it's the entry directly after the one that greatly disappointed the audience that turns in disappointing financial results, regardless of its own quality.
So look at what Into Darkness did to my boy Star Trek Beyond, there.
I know taste is different for everybody and so on but you clearly dont understand what Star Trek made Star Trek so great in the first place. No it's not that garbagge that CBS throws at you with such mega hits like Discovery and Picard where spacey shooty laser is the answer to everything. It's stuff like TNG's Measure of a man episode for example *where not one fucking shot is fired* what made Star Trek so visionary and not another Star Wars clone.
tbf, it wasn't scripted by him. It was written by Mark L Smith (the Revenant, Overlord, the Midnight Sky). Of course, I'm sure Tarantino would want to put his spin on it.
Soooo. It has to be Kelvin timeline right? There's no way they do something in the prime timeline.
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I'd like to see a starfleet or federation that works in some ways similar to where I work, which oddly enough sometimes feels like a 'crew' from a Star Trek series - I'm a crisis counsellor and we sit at computer stations writing records of our conversations with people and have supervisors sit at their main desk stations and we discuss things with them, etc. There's comradeship and a kind of devotion to the cause of helping people. It's sort of feels like we're on a 'bridge' too the way things are laid out.
So it doesn't have to be militarized to have people cruising around on a ship together exploring things and dealing with interesting social and alien scenarios.
The other part of it, is that I want to see Star Trek with big ideas again or high concept stuff. This is where contemporary ST is very shallow I think. There's also the melodrama. Like things can't be interesting now without it or something. It's weird, in crisis counselling you deal with so much drama, but while you're working you don't want that - you want people who are able to be chill while doing the job even if they have moments where difficult emotions come through (sometimes people need to have a good cry after a tough call). I'd like to see a more realistic take on people working together like that. I think TNG was able to touch on this the most out of any of the classic series and as such felt the most realistic in that regard.
I don't know, I just want more complexity and detail and vision and stuff like that with Star Trek. Action and melodrama is pretty dull to me outside of the occasional film in the theatre that can do it well enough.
I think it's somewhat strange that TNG was massively popular but modern ST writers/producers seem to have some sort of aversion to it in terms of how it told its stories. Or it's like contemporary Star Trek writers aren't super interested in Science fiction itself (the kind that reflects on technology and ideas) and are way more into a 'space fantasy' kind of space opera.
The entire franchise needs a reboot tbh, I guess they can keep stumbling around until someone figures that out.
I really need to watch Orville season 2 and Lower Decks, its just that Picard and Discovery have left me so indifferent to the franchise.
I really need to watch Orville season 2 and Lower Decks, its just that Picard and Discovery have left me so indifferent to the franchise.
That chats clear not adjusted and with first film releasing 1979 and to very different market patterns it's essentially useless. The Motion picture made approx $82 million in 1979 which adjusted for inflation would likely put it in par with Star Trek for example (or just behind as you'd need to allow for inflation from 2009 too to be fair).
Voyage Home was a big hit - adjusted it'd be behind 2009 and 1978 Trek's but not too much.
Internationals I'm not sure. Probably stronger market for 2009 but then if you want to play fair you'd need to inflate 1979 to truly compare.
Bottom line is the two first instalments (1979 and 2009) did very well with all other entries below that but with a few still doing string business.
That said TMP and Star Trek 2009 were expensive. Voyage Home had much tighter budget and by the nature of its plot less expensive space battles, etc. and probably has good chance of being the most profitable Trek film to date.
While Nemesis and Insurection are far from my favorite movies in the series, they are much better than the kelvinverse nonsense. I also really like Enterprise and Voyager. Not as good as Next Generation of the Original Series, but they were great shows. I haven't enjoyed any Trek since 2005, am I required to enjoy new Trek? But I guess i'm some mad internet troll, all because I don't like the modern direction they've gone with, thanks for the generalization.
God, Measure of a Man is such a great episode, not my favorite, but one of TNGs best. That honor for me goes to Darmok. I loved watching Picard and the Tamarian captain trying to learn to communicate, and the tamarian giving his life all in the name of communication was such a fantastic episode.
I agree. I miss the older style of Star Trek, when it was a crew of people exploring space, encoutering new people and new situations/problems. I miss when the show was about an optomistic view of the future, where humanity had gotten past a lot of our bullshit. When some episodes were about solving a problem non-violently. I mean, they sometimes had to fight, but not always. We used to get episodes that commented on the human condition or about issues relevant to the people watching the show. And some episodes would just be more comedy. Modern Trek just tries to rip too much from modern tv/movies and too much influense from much of the scifi it inspired. Trek used to be kind of a "nerdy" thing for people who were into sci-fi, it seems like now they're chasing it being "prestige tv". Heavily serialized show with lots of action, asshole characters being jerks to each other and lots of action and fighting and profanity. I'm not even agaisnt that kind of thing. I love Breaking Bad, and it's everything I just described, but I don't want Star Trek to be that. What I wanted for Trek to come back was to do what they did when they made TNG. TNG was set about a century after TOS, new time period in the future, new cast, new status quo. They should have made a new show, set about a century after Voyager, new cast, new era. They could have even had cameos from TNG, DS9, and Voyager this way.
They're popular shows these days though, with fairly uncritical audiences. So it will probably have to wait until people get bored of the overall aesthetic or formula like what happened with Enterprise ending the TNG-DS9-VOY era. I guess the difference today is that things are more accelerated so it may not take over a decade for that to set in then another decade or more to bring interest back.
I feel like television is in some ways at an oddly conservative place, aesthetically, right now in that it's so heavily plot driven and serialized that most other styles of telling stories is being kind of drowned out or withheld from popular exposure (even if there's more chance for smaller diversity in style or modes). For all the changes in the way people consume media, we're still experiencing limited range in how a singular type of storytelling tends to dominate the wider culture, like how episodic stuff ruled back in the day. Now it seems like it's just the other way around with heavy serialization and plot focused melodrama. Maybe stuff like Mando shows that there's opportunity for other types to flourish, but we'll see if that branches out and diversifies the popular field more.
The first two "remakes" were dope. Absolute masterpieces. The third one sadly... Was a miss for me. But I hope the fourth one will bring it back together.
In the end Star Trek has always been about the human condition, being our best selves and challenging our truths to explore the unknown so I really dig your take on it. Since you mentioned TNG, remember that they had families on board. Saving the ship didn't just mean to save the courageous crew, for some people serving on the Enterprise it meant saving their loved ones. When the Borg take out a chunk of the saucer section there may be officers in that section who swore an oath and knew what they were in for but there may also have been civilian passengers in there, a barber, a school teacher or a botanist.
There is room for showing a bridge officer end his shift in his quarters after a day of pure hell and - despite having been composed during the crisis - have a nervous break down, so many lives at stake, lives lost, feeling small and unprepared for an universe that can swat you like a fly despite 20 years of experience on a starship and finishing valedictorian in the academy.
The Final Frontier may be reached mentally before it is reached physically, humans can grow and go incredibly far but at some point they will be overwhelmed by phenomenons they will never understand, science they will never comprehend and sacrifices they will never be able to make. Maybe Star Trek can go there in a movie, more Sunshine or Annihilation than Hornblower.