My afternoon showing may have cracked a dozen people. I have to echo the lack of buzz, I only knew this was out and reviewing well was because of this board.
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Deadline: How ‘Birds Of Prey’ Went Astray With $33M+ Opening aka Blackhawk down.
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He took back his score in a later video. He's said he's been working on not letting hype cloud his judgment since then
Though others have elaborated in more detail earlier in the thread, the reason why it would be a factor is the result of the demographic for Harley typically skewing younger, leaving those prospective viewers unable to attend.
Thats good to know. Nonetheless, just crazy how he didn't like BOP.
He's been getting increasingly suspect in his reviews for women led films, to the point of calling TLJ's Holdo a "Admiral Gender Studies" and saying her arc was "man hating".
I've already prepared for him going full asshole
I thought this guy was already cancelled around here for some stupid shit he tweeted out? He's got shit taste anyway
The title completely put me off the movie. The Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn. It just seems so pretentious and immediately soured me on the film.
I'm sure whoever came up with it thought they were the smartest person ever when they came up with it.
I'm sure whoever came up with it thought they were the smartest person ever when they came up with it.
Suicide Squad is fun even if the end is formulaic nonsense.
I said this is the DCEU thread
The movie cost 85 mil to make, they probably only spent 50 mil on marketing. At worst, they did the "double the budget" thing and spent a total of 170. How can this not make at least 200 at he box office world wide when it's all said and done? Not to mention digital and dvd sales.
The movie cost 85 mil to make, they probably only spent 50 mil on marketing. At worst, they did the "double the budget" thing and spent a total of 170. How can this not make at least 200 at he box office world wide when it's all said and done? Not to mention digital and dvd sales.
Well it definitely limits the audience and having seen the film I'm not sure it was needed? If it's really just the swearing they could very easily have done without that.
Anyway I saw the film for Harley as I pretty much don't have any idea about the Birds of Prey. So I'm hoping all those Harley fans out there realise this is a Harley film, and aren't confused with the title.
This was my biggest issue. As much as I was looking forward to the films I still felt I needed a very straight forward and normal trailer. I never got it and I feel this film needed at least one.
By your own math (85+50), the movie would have to make at least 270 to break even, and thats giving them 50% of the profit both domestic and international (which often doesnt happen and is being quite generous). I think 50 for marketing is also low. I think "break even" for this movie is likely closer to 300-350, depending on which territories it hauls in money from and how much they spent on marketing globally.
They likely can break even on merch/digital/dvd/etc sales afterwards, but it might take a bit to get there.
After "Joker" I just don't have any desire to return to any part of this particular Batman cinematic universe.
I would have much rather have had a 1970s or 1980s NYC grimdark Harley Quinn origin story that didn't even need the Joker necessarily. I'm sure WB would too knowing what they know now.
I would have much rather have had a 1970s or 1980s NYC grimdark Harley Quinn origin story that didn't even need the Joker necessarily. I'm sure WB would too knowing what they know now.
No one in the actual team is advertised except Harley for this film, and no plot is presented. Tried to convince my gf and another friend to see it tonight and they had zero interest. I'll probably end up seeing it solo in a week or two, as long as WoM is solid it should have legs.
I didn't even realize the movie was rated R. Everything I saw about it made it look terrible. I felt the same about Suicide Squad and never bothered watching it. I'll admit DCEU's terrible track record with BvS and JL made me not wanna waste my time with any of their other offerings. I finally saw Joker the other day after I noticed my dad rented it through my Prime account and I thought it was good but not nearly as good as people have made it out to be.
It tried so hard to do that cheeky fourth wall breaking Deadpool thing and I really dislike that style of humor.
Makes sense. Pretty hard to tell the star of the film that her title is awful.
I think I'd have much less of an issue with it if this wasn't the followup to Suicide Squad. Giving the followup to a movie that got 27% on rotten tomatoes a pretentious title like that feels so unearned.
Angry Joe is not a very good movie reviewer. He's way too raw with his opinions and doesn't take the time to self reflect on what he has just seen.
I'm not saying this because I liked or disliked BoP, I haven't seen it yet. That's just the impression I get from watching his movie review videos.
Movie looked terribly unappealing. Who is the target audience for this? I guess maybe marketing is to blame but looked like suicide squad part two. I'll try and see it thanks to A-List.
Saw it tonight and thought it was a solid movie (quite a bit better than Suicide Squad anyway). Too bad it probably wont get a sequel unless it has amazing legs thanks to word of mouth.
Dang I can't recall the last thread for an underwhelming debut that ended up this long, interesting
I didn't have interest in Suicide Squad. Didn't have interest in Birds of Prey.
nice kicks
I enjoyed it. It was ok. The theater was pretty dead, though.
Shame just came out of theater a half an hour ago.
Movie was fucking awesome. It was a Birds of Prey origin movie + Harley Quinn through and through. The theater was empty and it's a god damn fucking shame I loved the movie.
Movie was fucking awesome. It was a Birds of Prey origin movie + Harley Quinn through and through. The theater was empty and it's a god damn fucking shame I loved the movie.
It might had. But this does happen after Suicide Squad. They reference it multiple times.
Movie was fine. The R rating felt pointless outside a few scenes. Was hoping for something a little crazier and exciting. Kinda felt boring at times.
I think a lot of people like Batman, but the mainline movies have been terrible.
And then Suicide Squad was a terrible spinoff. So now this is a spinoff of a spinoff of something that wasn't even good in the first place, with extremely focusing on how cringe-inducing Harley Quinn can be out of context.
Which is a shame, because my entire twitter timeline seems to love it. Didn't realize the John Wick director was second unit on it.
And then Suicide Squad was a terrible spinoff. So now this is a spinoff of a spinoff of something that wasn't even good in the first place, with extremely focusing on how cringe-inducing Harley Quinn can be out of context.
Which is a shame, because my entire twitter timeline seems to love it. Didn't realize the John Wick director was second unit on it.
Just look at the impressions on here and Twitter –
People are enjoying the hell out of this movie. It's just a matter of the GP not being convinced by the marketing.
I hope WoM pulls through.
Weird as shit that people showed up in droves for Suicide Squad, but not the follow up that was based around the only good part of that garbage movie (Harley). Wonder how SS2 does after this.
People went to Suicide Squad. Didn't like it. Aren't showing up for another film in one of the three concurrent DC film continuities.
I saw it tonight and thought it was great. I really think that it's on the marketing being abysmal and Suicide Squad having been a stinker. IIRC, it made most of its money opening weekend then fell off a cliff pretty quickly, and squeaked by staying in number one because there was literally nothing else that came out.
I'm somewhat hopeful that this is the opposite and word of mouth gives this decent legs, because it deserves it.
I'm somewhat hopeful that this is the opposite and word of mouth gives this decent legs, because it deserves it.
It would probably have to make like $300m to break even due to Hollywood math
This was my favorite DCEU movie by far. Loved it
This was 100% "Harley Quinn & the Birds of Prey" rather than the other way around though.
Maybe good WoM will carry it. A weak opening weekend is far from a death sentence anymore and also there's barely anything coming out in the coming weeks so it could still recover
People talking about bad marketing, maybe that has some merit. I barely watch movie trailers anymore because they spoil too much
This was 100% "Harley Quinn & the Birds of Prey" rather than the other way around though.
Maybe good WoM will carry it. A weak opening weekend is far from a death sentence anymore and also there's barely anything coming out in the coming weeks so it could still recover
People talking about bad marketing, maybe that has some merit. I barely watch movie trailers anymore because they spoil too much