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Deadline: How ‘Birds Of Prey’ Went Astray With $33M+ Opening aka Blackhawk down.
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Panicking and reworking things is what DC have been doing pretty much since Man Of Steel.
They should have went full Deadpool marketing and the first thing we see of this film is Harley Quinn walking on set for suicide squad 2. All the cast from that shitty movie is dead on the floor with one of the birds of prey girls over them.
Harley: "What happened to my family"
Girl: "They were trash you were the best part tho so your coming with us
Harley: "Oooo yaaay"
Somethinf stupid like that but acknowledge how shitty that film was and your fixing it.
Harley: "What happened to my family"
Girl: "They were trash you were the best part tho so your coming with us
Harley: "Oooo yaaay"
Somethinf stupid like that but acknowledge how shitty that film was and your fixing it.
I was never going to pay to see this movie myself for how they used Cassandra Cain despite loving the Birds of Prey and originally liking this Harley.
"oh hey we cast an Asian girl as the random teen"
"lets call her Cassandra Cain asap!"
"oh hey we cast an Asian girl as the random teen"
"lets call her Cassandra Cain asap!"
You didn't have the regular posters shitting up the review thread, hence it being short.
I personally got enough of Harley in just the trailers and the other girls look like BoP in name only. I'm curious about who they were trying to pull in since it's rated R which puts younger Harley fans out and it seems like most of the demo that went to see it are male. So something there must be off putting.
I mean Aquaman was tied to the brutal Justice League movie and overcame that. Sometimes decent movies just don't find their audience, can be a bad release window, marketing, or 50 other factors who knows.
I think they thought they had a Deadpool on their hands.
I think they thought they had a Deadpool on their hands.
it's probably more Suicide Squad poison tbh even though she was considered the best character she was still kinda objectified and male gazey and this appeared to more of the same character.Thursday tracking had it with 58% male, 42% female audience.
... That was not what I was expecting for a female-led movie.
For perspective, Aquaman was bigger with women, according to Deadline, 52% female, 48% male.
So... what the heck happened?
(besides the obvious)
... I really like the title.
Shame to hear it's doing poorly. I thought it was fun and I hope this doesn't stop DC from giving us another Birds of Prey movie.
Shame to hear it's doing poorly. I thought it was fun and I hope this doesn't stop DC from giving us another Birds of Prey movie.
Everyone here taking about Margot Robbie gonna get replaced, like WB and DC don't read reviews that say nothing but praise for her.
i am like really shocked this is happening. Like really really shocked. The sad people couldn't troll the movie for being bad so this is their new talking point.
This place definitely masquerades as a marvel/disney fansite.
Plus they seem really torn as to what to call the movie, I've seen trailers that are all about it being a Harley Quinn movie and others that lean much more into the ensemble and refer to it as Birds of Prey, it's really confusing.
The ensemble trailers were terrible too, it was really hard to get a feel for any of the other characters and it didn't help that their costumes were all fairly muted compared to Harley's which made it difficult to tell so many people apart in a 2 minute trailer.
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Honestly, I just... kinda wasn't interested in seeing it?
I'll totally go see James Gunn's Suicide Squad, though.
I'll totally go see James Gunn's Suicide Squad, though.
Or the fact she's a producer on this film and it only EXISTS because she campaigned and worked for it.
Here is my answer: suicide squad should have had Joker as the villain.
Birds of Prey should have been Harley centric.
just pure stupidity to be honest.
Birds of Prey should have been Harley centric.
just pure stupidity to be honest.
yeah the Bohemian Rhapsody trailer grabbed a lot of attention for Suicide Squad.
But Captain Marvel and Wonderwoman both made $1B, this happened because of bad marketing.
Yeah I was gonna watch it because a friend is big Harley fan but thought it would suck. Then read the glowing reviews and impressions. We are watching it tonight.
Stuff like Joker has showed that an R rating isn't the impenetrable barrier to entry that studios always claimed it was. Chalking underperformance up to a rating was ludicrous five years ago and it's ludicrous today.
Birds of Prey obviously needed Pitbull.Thursday tracking had it with 58% male, 42% female audience.
... That was not what I was expecting for a female-led movie.
For perspective, Aquaman was bigger with women, according to Deadline, 52% female, 48% male.
So... what the heck happened?
(besides the obvious)
So as a non-marvel fan, what do you think the reason it under performed?
I think there is more nuance, to be fair.
A character like Joker is by his nature a murdering psychopath whose existence is driven by committing murders and crime. At his tamest, he's still a remorseless criminal who tries to murder his superhero nemesis. An R-rating for a movie about him makes sense.
But if you were to slap an R-rating on, say, Shazam or Aquaman? That wouldn't make sense. An R-rating WOULD be a barrier because a majority of their fanbase and audience would skew younger.
And in that regard, Harley DOES skew younger. She's more popular with younger kids and teenagers. There's a reason she's part of the Superhero Girls line-up.
Even on exit polling for THIS MOVIE, the most positive response has been from the teenage girl audience, so clearly that R-rating is a barrier for what's probably her heaviest demographic.
Not saying you can't do an R-rated Harley movie (hell, there's a great mature Harley comic on shelves right now, and the Harley WB show is REALLY adult), but they misread the room and thought because she's the closest thing they have to Deadpool, and is Joker-adjacent, they could just make her R-rated and it wouldn't matter.
Looks like it did, in this case.
I don't have time to read through all eight pages, so apologies if this has already been mentioned, but: two things that seriously helped Deadpool were that, A, the marketing team had the brilliant idea of marketing it as a valentines day movie...
... and B, it actually delivered on that premise, because the movie had what is arguably still the best, most realistically portrayed romantic relationship in the history of comic book films. The R rating even serviced that, because we got to see an uncensored depiction of tender, loving sex between Wade and Vamessa.
... and B, it actually delivered on that premise, because the movie had what is arguably still the best, most realistically portrayed romantic relationship in the history of comic book films. The R rating even serviced that, because we got to see an uncensored depiction of tender, loving sex between Wade and Vamessa.
They've been panicking and reworking things, and it's generated some positive results and some negative results. Throwing everything at the wall and doubling down on whatever sticks is going to have some pleasing results, but it's only going to get you so far.
I know, just saying that my daughter - and her pals - love Harley - but they're exposed mnostly through her Batman cartoon appearances. She seems to be a sort of PG rated style and sass influence for them rather than deep lore - so it's surpsing to me that they didn't rey to catch that in a Venn Diagram the way say Guardians or Shazam or WW did. But I understand - I guess the box office numbers may validate part of that, but I can't prove a negative.
I mean by some metrics an R-rated superhero chick flick doing 30M on opening weekend is freaking fantastic. The problem is their assumptions about what they would actually do. Like Tank Girl is the last movie I can think of as a comparison and that shit was
By the end of its second week, Tank Girl had made only $3,668,762. Its final gross in the United States was $4,064,495. Internationally, the film added approximately $2,000,000 to that total, against a production budget of $25 million.
I might even say that trailer was literally one of the best trailers of all time
Even Joker seemed like he might be alright despite the design in that trailer.
That poster still makes me lose my shit lmaoI don't have time to read through all eight pages, so apologies if this has already been mentioned, but: two things that seriously helped Deadpool were that, A, the marketing team had the brilliant idea of marketing it as a valentines day movie...
... and B, it actually delivered on that premise, because the movie had what is arguably still the best, most realistically portrayed romantic relationship in the history of comic book films. The R rating even serviced that, because we got to see an uncensored depiction of tender, loving sex between Wade and Vamessa.
Hopefully with this underperforming WB will drop the dumb thrown together/street look from their DC movies going forward.
It looks like Suicide Squad 2 to me which means I have no interest in it. My plan was to catch it at home eventually, but it is no big deal if I miss it entirely because it does not appear to be connected to any larger universe.
I've hardly seen any marketing for it at all. I didn't even know it was a DC movie until like two days ago.
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Damn you cold, but you had Cats and Ghost In the Shell money huh?