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Deadline: How ‘Birds Of Prey’ Went Astray With $33M+ Opening aka Blackhawk down.
- Thread starter Slayven
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Girlfriend and I saw it last night. I thought it was great, and she absolutely adored it. It isn't anything like Suicide Squad.
I'm really hoping for long legs on this one, because otherwise DC is going to learn all the wrong lessons and we'll get more shit like Joker.
I'm really hoping for long legs on this one, because otherwise DC is going to learn all the wrong lessons and we'll get more shit like Joker.
Not really. There's a lot of swearing and violence, a lady strips to her bra and panties, and someone gets blown up but that's it.
That's very on brand.Lady Blackhawk is a memeber of the BoP
#Slayvendeepcuts
I thought you were trying to make some deep analogy of a powerful entity (WB)being ambushed by an unexpected event (BOP underperforming) forcing them to change their mission (how to execute further DC movies).
But no it's some ole comic shit.
Still doesn't make sense, since it's open knowledge that the directors/writers are different. Just seems like they were just never interested to begin with.
I gotta agree with people blaming the marketing. I'm glad the movie turned out good but the trailers were pretty bad imo.
Honestly I wasn't even thinking of watching it until the reviews started to come out really positive. Suicide Squad was one of the worst films I've seen in recent memory, and this being tied to it at all makes it really hard to get remotely excited for it. They should've cut all ties completely and made it its own thing.
I also think it doesn't help at all that all the marketting/posters have used the same visual palete as SS, and make it look very similar/like a direct sequel.
I also think it doesn't help at all that all the marketting/posters have used the same visual palete as SS, and make it look very similar/like a direct sequel.
I think this was the issue. Margot Robbie is great but I want nothing to do with that suicide squad version. I would rank suicide squad below Batman V Superman. It's not only awful, it's cringe. And regardless of reviews, BOP looked like it had that same cringe.
They tried like hell to claim that it was. Probably in an attempt to avoid this very situation.
Has the James Gunn Suicide Squad film already wrapped?
I wonder if this is will make the studio put a hold on it, or retool it.
I wonder if this is will make the studio put a hold on it, or retool it.
Huh. Was honestly expecting a higher opening, but that was after reviews. Guessing the trailers didn't sell it, which is fair.
The trailers for this were terrible
The trailers for this were terrible
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Somebody should've told the marketting department. Every poster I've seen looks extremely Suicide-Squaddy.
It's still filming. Margot hasn't filmed any of her scenes yet.
Yet didn't the first trailer start off right away about her breaking up with joker?
The marketing didn't give me too much of a girl power vibe, it mostly gave me an obnoxious headache-inducing vibe. The type of attitude and humor in the trailers turned me off but based on reviews I'm guessing the actual movie does a better job with it.
I didn't know superhero films could underperform like this anymore... although it's certainly due to my limited perspective.
That's a shame. I never cared for Harley as a character, could barely watch a few minutes of Suicide Squad before turning it off, and yet Birds of Prey turned out to be my favorite DC movie since The Dark Knight and made Harley a character I really like
Very likely, WB is completely incompetent even with Joker they weren't confident in the movie so they shared expenses with 2 other production companies. WB really doesn't deserve to own the rights to DC, at least the film rights.
Yeah I do think James Gunn is going to have his work cut out.
For a lot of people she was once of the only enjoyable elements of that film.
For a lot of people she was once of the only enjoyable elements of that film.
Yeah it feels like they had three different marketing approaches, none that either fit the actual movie very well, or were in line with successful R-rated superhero films we've seen since.
That's a huge bomb, advertisements have been intense with this, probably spent $50+ mill easy on advertising alone
As good as Margot Robbie is in the role, I think Harley Quinn is just a grating character. The R rating probably didn't help.
I mean I'm pretty sure she's a producer on the movie and basically made it happen in the first place. I think they could've kept Robbie and still made it have its own visual language and seem like its own thing.
Oh absolutely.
Even in the last few weeks, they stopped calling it by its full title and started calling it "Harley Quinn in Birds of Prey" to lean into her brand recognition.
From what I understand, her desire to make the film was what pushed it forward at all.
What a shame. The movie is good.
I blame the title and marketing. It was impossible to tell if this was garbage or not based on the trailers. There's very little to latch onto unless you're a huge fan of Harley Quinn to begin with.
It's safe to say that general audiences have no clue who zany clown girl is supposed to be. Pity.
DC needs to keep making interesting and original movies like Birds of Prey if they want to one day rival the MCU. Just sell them better. Birds of Prey is no weirder than Guardians of the Galaxy or Dr. Strange.
I blame the title and marketing. It was impossible to tell if this was garbage or not based on the trailers. There's very little to latch onto unless you're a huge fan of Harley Quinn to begin with.
It's safe to say that general audiences have no clue who zany clown girl is supposed to be. Pity.
DC needs to keep making interesting and original movies like Birds of Prey if they want to one day rival the MCU. Just sell them better. Birds of Prey is no weirder than Guardians of the Galaxy or Dr. Strange.
Jesus Christ that's bad.
But I do understand. Even when I know the movie is great, I don't really feel like going to see it.
But I do understand. Even when I know the movie is great, I don't really feel like going to see it.
It's going to open less than Ocean's 8.... ouch.
I haven't seen the film just yet and honestly... I have no incentive to do so either and that's one of the problems here with this film.
I would have loved a Harley Quinn vs Poison Ivy (bring back Uma Thurman) movie, that would have brought people to the movie theatres. But alas, that's not what we have.
I haven't seen the film just yet and honestly... I have no incentive to do so either and that's one of the problems here with this film.
I would have loved a Harley Quinn vs Poison Ivy (bring back Uma Thurman) movie, that would have brought people to the movie theatres. But alas, that's not what we have.
The Deadline commentary in the previous update skewers that
I'm a huge DC fan and I haven't seen BOP but I wasn't blown away by the marketing or trailers.
The whole project seemed unbalanced by HQ even the clip introducing Black Canary singing has HQ talking over the scene. I wanna listen to Black Canary! Shut up Harley!
HQ is much better in small doses as part of an ensemble. Even Suicide Squad understood that.
The whole project seemed unbalanced by HQ even the clip introducing Black Canary singing has HQ talking over the scene. I wanna listen to Black Canary! Shut up Harley!
HQ is much better in small doses as part of an ensemble. Even Suicide Squad understood that.
Yeah exactly.
Ok so they had to cast Robbie again. But to put her in in and almost the exact same bizarre style as Suicide Squad.
What did they expect?
I feel like we needed another movie or two before this to really make Harley a household name. I know nerds love her, but most people's Batman knowledge stems from the Nolan or Burton/Schumacher films.
Same with Suicide Squad in general, though. Those villains should have appeared in solo movies first. SS should've been the team up. WB still doesn't get it.
Same with Suicide Squad in general, though. Those villains should have appeared in solo movies first. SS should've been the team up. WB still doesn't get it.
I had zero interest in Harley; the action, aesthetic, crime-comedy style, and reception is what got me interested.
