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Dead or Alive 6 |OT| Still a Fighter
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I am trying to free version but my stick is not registering left. Left is right and right is right. I'm assuming it's a problem with my stick and not a game setting, right?
Do combo challenges and training for the characters you can manage for a lot more cash. Diego's the quickest across both of those.
Ahh didn't know about the training also giving gold, any idea how much you get for completing each one?
At this stage I don't think i'll be using the combo challenges to farm gold as they are a bit too hard for me and not sure how much gold i'm getting for the small amount of progress i'm making in each.
I did training mode but somehow I missed this. what is an offensive hold and how is it different from a counter hold
An offensive hold is a throw that will go past strikes, you beat OH's the same way as regular (or break) holds with throws.
Really like that the Xbox version includes achievements in Core Fighters. Always felt a little lame that the PS versions of 5 and 6 don't for whatever reason.
Regardless, ending up buying Mila (Who's my main) and plan to pretty much play until I have a good chunk of the achievements. Personally, DOA 5 Ultimate and up have probably the best Achievement/Trophy lists out of any fighting games. There's a good easy chunk for anyone to get and then nice ones to work towards by just playing online. Adds a good chunk of playability for people like me who get some worth out of that stuff.
Regardless, ending up buying Mila (Who's my main) and plan to pretty much play until I have a good chunk of the achievements. Personally, DOA 5 Ultimate and up have probably the best Achievement/Trophy lists out of any fighting games. There's a good easy chunk for anyone to get and then nice ones to work towards by just playing online. Adds a good chunk of playability for people like me who get some worth out of that stuff.
Played a bunch of lobby matches with a friend. Its a pretty good lobby system, and we had a great connection the whole time. Same city however.
Welcome to Dead or Alive. Throws are my #1 complaint about the game engine. Without being able to break throws, you can't play proper defense. Holding block actually puts you in a mixup, which is ridiculous. But don't tell a DOA player you want throw breaks, they'll throw a fit. Even oMastero just laughed at me when I said the game needs throw breaks.
Throws in Tekken 7 are easier to break compared to previous games in the series, but there are still three different throw breaks. You have to watch the hands of the player throwing to know what break to use.
If you like to guess, you love DOA. If you like to play actual defense and not guess 99% of the time, then DOA is pretty terrible. Just depends on your style of play.
I have to question the choice to put those two on commentary. They were on commentary during pools as well as top 8 and they have very little knowledge about the game. Did no one else step up to commentate or did they just sit down and not give anyone else a shot? Either way, the commentary was easily the worst part of the DOA stream at Final Round.
Too passive? You mean trying to block? The poor netcode means it's very difficult to react to pauses in strings or even "run up throw" scenarios. And don't get me started on characters with jumping throws since it takes 4 frames to duck in DOA and it's already extremely difficult to react online.
The issue is that throws are too strong for being unbreakable. Characters can take 50% or more in some situations, off of an unbreakable throw from neutral. That's pretty ridiculous if you ask me, especially when the recommended defense is to randomly attack (what?) or fuzzy.
It's still early, but Nico is easily top tier at the moment, and arguably the best character in the game. I brought this up to oMastero and he just laughed and said he didn't want any changes this early. Never mind the fact that I gave him specific information as to why Nico stands above the rest of the cast. You can't talk to some of these people. They just don't understand the fundamentals of fighting games because they only play DOA at a competitive level. At this point I've given up trying to tell Manny anything about what's wrong with DOA6. Wasted effort...
I've basically played nothing but ranked and I have 300k gold after buying a good 12-15 costumes. Am I missing something or is gold just easy to come by in ranked?
The neutral in this game is just a big question mark to me. I feel like I'm missing something but based on every breakdown I've seen you just kinda throw out a button and hope the opponent is doing the thing that button counters.
It's hard to find a lot of info though since a majority of the discussion is about the outfits lol.
Holy shit how do I turn big picture mode off. I'm on xbox one controller and can't find an option at all
Exit game.
Top left corner. Steam>Settings>In-Game, untick the second option(Use the Big Picture Overlay when using...).
I'm really enjoying this!
For starters, it's kind of sad that it runs better than DOA5 on my PC (I get some slight stuttering on DOA5 no matter the settings, it's not a great port...). Fighting is fast, fluid, and fun as always, the game looks great, loading times are fantastic (it really puts to shame many other current fighters), and online is not terrible so bad.
For starters, it's kind of sad that it runs better than DOA5 on my PC (I get some slight stuttering on DOA5 no matter the settings, it's not a great port...). Fighting is fast, fluid, and fun as always, the game looks great, loading times are fantastic (it really puts to shame many other current fighters), and online is not terrible so bad.
Haven't played in a couple days so I don't know if they dropped it. I was getting around 900 gold for an online ranked fight. 1,000 cp costumes usually cost 20,000. Only ones that are higher are Christie's leather costumes. The red or white one costs 35k.
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Omfg nothing is more satisfying in DOA6 than someone beating you 3-2, then coming back with the download and winning 3-0 2x in a row
I just checked again and character specific command training does not give any gold, but the base training mode does and combo challenges give you some for every five trials you do.
Yes, male characters have two navels now, as nature intended. :)
Team Ninja needs to fix this stuff, for real.
Other 3D artists can notice the shoddy workmanship. For people in the know, this stuff is some pretty base level fuck up.
Other 3D artists can notice the shoddy workmanship. For people in the know, this stuff is some pretty base level fuck up.
Nearly every model is messed up in one way or another if look a little closer. They did a really sloppy job on character models this time around. They even managed to mess up before perfectly fine DOA5 models that they entirely or partly reused.
I've been telling everyone that for months and I have been complaining directly to Team Ninja about it. The ship has probably sailed. I have no hopes they will fix any of it.
Look at the weird pixelation patterns on Hayate's hair (I retouched them on the right side):
That being said, they did at least give the male characters completely different and way more detailed bodies this time. Here I directly compared Rig's DOA5 MMA model with his DOA6 deluxe wrestling model:
Yeah, I did remove the second navel. XD I know, it goes against objectively and fairly comparing the two models, but it just triggers OCD in me, I can't help it. :( It's just so messed up...
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Ah OK, well that's not too bad. I still need to try online (don't have Plus right now), but that's good to know.
Also, I hope they add Tag Battle in at some point, but I don't know if that's possible at this point or not.
Yeah, the very first time I played that stage it crashed my graphics card (RX 480 8GB). It seems there's an issue with the water on that stage. You need to create a profile for the game in the Radeon Settings app and set the Tessellation Mode to "Override Application Settings." Also, set Maximum Tessellation Level to "Off." Should resolve the issue.
Tag has been hinted as a possibility for the next gen version.
No way it's happening this gen based on what they've said.
Thanks, another tip I saw also said to set compute mode instead of graphics. I sent a bug report to AMD too
Yeah there's basically no neutral in DOA. Attack hitboxes are super unbalanced, so it's very difficult to interrupt someone who just starts mashing out a string from halfway across the screen. Depending on the character and the attack string used, sometimes you can crush or step, but in other fighters you'd just whiff punish and be on your way.
Also, since throws are unbreakable you can't just play defense. You always have to be ready to press jab or something, or be ready to fuzzy. It's like focusing on the ground game in Street Fighter, but still being ready to anti-air... only jump attacks are 7 frames instead of 60+. The mixup between run up throw and run up attack is also crazy strong... again because you can't break throws.
Risk/reward is also heavily skewed because you can't just jab check like you can in VF, Tekken or Soul Calibur. If you jab check and they counter, they can take 50% or more... because you jabbed.
From my experience, neutral in DOA boils down to dashing forward and back until someone commits to an attack of some sort. There's no safe way to approach or defend, so it's all one big guess. Playing online makes this even more difficult/frustrating because you basically can't react to anything and have to make even more of a guess due to how early you have to make a decision.
What fucking scumbags. Im glad most ppl don't give a shit about this game and evo denied them a spot if this really is the case.
I am angry >C and when a large portion of the game will be about dlc I think its valid to be upset.
Like they purposely chose to screw over pc players when xbox and Asia psn lets you buy the DLC individually.
Why is everyone saying you can't break throws? I break throws lots. That just means when an opponent goes to throw you and you shake out of it, right? At least it does in most fighting games.
It mean something different here?
It mean something different here?
But considering the discussion was specifically about the neutral game aren't neutral throws the relevant one to the topic at hand?
I believe they are talking about command throws, even in neutral
You've done a good job at summarizing my thoughts so far. I'm having more fun than I expected, but there is so much I just don't get about neutral here. The weird hitboxes and priority (at least it seems like some sort of attack priority?) especially are really driving me nuts after playing so much Tekken recently. It just feels off in comparison when trying to whiff punish or really try to play footsies. I've had so many situations where I go to hit a button after my enemy's string whiffs and I get hit instead. It feels a bit unnatural.
No, you can't break command throws, which is what he means. Something like Lisa's 214T or Nyotengu's 41236T.
this makes so little sense considering they just put out the core fighters version, they're literally locking themselves out of money from the people playing that version of the game
who the heck is gonna buy a $20 costume bundle if they only own 1-3 of the characters in it
whereas someone who plays the CF version and only plays a few characters might be inclined to buy most/all costumes for their character
bizarre choice
