If it does, Jenkins won't be behind the camera. Bookmark it.
And Gal has said she won't do a sequel without Patty. Plus, she's pregnant.
I blame no one but Warner.
I was never on the Snyder Cut bandwagon and once they gave it, it only made fans realize they could demand something and eventually, maybe get it.
I was happy with burying Justice League and moving on.
Folks want a cut of a movie that was disliked nearly 5 years ago.
And don't look at the fact that The Suicide Squad is done, The Batman has finished filming, The Flash has just begun, Black Adam and Shazam aren't too far behind.
They've lined up an Aquaman and Wonder Woman sequel. We're moving on full steam ahead.
? They do both...Hate is a strong word. It's acceptance of what happened happened and will happen again and no lessons will be learned.
Leadership comes and goes. Yet we'll keep backsliding into Superman 4 Quest for Peace and Batman & Robin.
And yes, there's a difference between having producer oversight, as is the case with Feige at Marvel and Kennedy at Lucasfilm, and having the business end make creative decisions. When you have a two hour mandate because the thinking is you can fit in more screenings per day, I dunno what to tell you.
It's great.
If Patty does Star Wars next, WW3 isn't seeing a set until sometime in early 2024. If they take their sweet ass time in post production again for whatever reason, you're looking at WW3 in like late 2025 or 2026. I just don't see Warner Bros waiting upwards of 5 years.And Gal has said she won't do a sequel without Patty. Plus, she's pregnant.
If Patty does Star Wars next, WW3 isn't seeing a set until sometime in early 2024. If they take their sweet ass time in post production again for whatever reason, you're looking at WW3 in like late 2025 or 2026. I just don't see Warner Bros waiting upwards of 5 years.
"'Wonder Woman 1984' broke records and exceeded our expectations across all of our key viewing and subscriber metrics in its first 24 hours on the service, and the interest and momentum we're seeing indicates this will likely continue well beyond the weekend," said Andy Forssell, head of WarnerMedia's direct-to-consumer business. "During these very difficult times, it was nice to give families the option of enjoying this uplifting film at home, where theater viewing wasn't an option."
Lots of people sign on to stuff that never happens. It probably happens as announced, but it wouldn't shock me if it didn't.They already signed.
‘Wonder Woman 3’ in the Works With Director Patty Jenkins
Diana Prince is officially heading back to the big screen for a third "Wonder Woman" movie.variety.com
And like, I said, they touted viewer numbers because they had them:
It wasn't good, but enough people watched it to make it worthwhile. If they were walking away, they could've done that then. They're not recasting WW. They'll just knuckle down on the script.
It's why I don't feel bad for WB. They chose to try to ride the tiger, and now the tiger is going to eat them. If they had simply moved on, refused to do the Snyder Cut and instead let MacQuarrie and Cavill soft reboot Superman while Reeves rebooted Pattinson than they wouldn't be in their current situation. But they didn't so now we get to enjoy toxic discourse surrounding DC movies forever. Least I've got my Superman TV show to fall back on.I blame no one but Warner.
I was never on the Snyder Cut bandwagon and once they gave it, it only made fans realize they could demand something and eventually, maybe get it.
I was happy with burying Justice League and moving on.
Folks want a cut of a movie that was disliked nearly 5 years ago.
And don't look at the fact that The Suicide Squad is done, The Batman has finished filming, The Flash has just begun, Black Adam and Shazam aren't too far behind.
They've lined up an Aquaman and Wonder Woman sequel. We're moving on full steam ahead.
I didn't? They should've approved their pitch instead of declining and ultimately letting Snyder make his Cut if they wanted to move on. Affleck moving on is lessened by Battison coming out. By dragging things out with Cavill and then releasing a movie that was positively received that featured Cavill, all WB has done is ensure the Snyder fanbase will dig in their heels and demand more, which is what they're doing.How do you frame Warners passing on McQuarrie doing Superman as a consequence to JL releasing... they passed on it years ago. Well before any of the JL stuff was in motion.
Uh no he's not lol. He wanted a non-biased third part investigator which he got. Investigation is over, yet he's now accusing the investigator of covering stuff up despite earlier saying he was happy with the job she was doing. It comes across as being petty with the outcome. His career at WB is over, no reason to hold back especially since he claims to not be under NDA anymore. For the record if Ray brings WB to its knees I wouldn't shed a single tear. Like you said it's a megacorp. But I want to move on and have a clean break and we can't have that if we're constantly going to be rehashing this argument. So let him name names and give details and if WB can't repudiate him, then they deserve whatever happens to them. That's the only way he'll get Emmerich, Hamada, Berg, and Johns fired anyway, WB has been firm otherwise in saying they're done investigating Ray's accusations.And frankly, Ray can talk about his experiences publicly when he's ready to. He's trying to resolve it in the system. Whether you believe him or side with the giant corporation is your prerogative.
I didn't? They should've approved their pitch instead of declining and ultimately letting Snyder make his Cut if they wanted to move on. Affleck moving on is lessened by Battison coming out. By dragging things out with Cavill and then releasing a movie that was positively received that featured Cavill, all WB has done is ensure the Snyder fanbase will dig in their heels and demand more, which is what they're doing.
Uh no he's not lol. He wanted a non-biased third part investigator which he got. Investigation is over, yet he's now accusing the investigator of covering stuff up despite earlier saying he was happy with the job she was doing. It comes across as being petty with the outcome. His career at WB is over, no reason to hold back especially since he claims to not be under NDA anymore. For the record if Ray brings WB to its knees I wouldn't shed a single tear. Like you said it's a megacorp. But I want to move on and have a clean break and we can't have that if we're constantly going to be rehashing this argument. So let him name names and give details and if WB can't repudiate him, then they deserve whatever happens to them. That's the only way he'll get Emmerich, Hamada, Berg, and Johns fired anyway, WB has been firm otherwise in saying they're done investigating Ray's accusations.
How did you get that...So you believe that WB is telling the truth and not trying to cover their fucking asses. Are you kidding me?
His career at WB is over, no reason to hold back especially since he claims to not be under NDA anymore. For the record if Ray brings WB to its knees I wouldn't shed a single tear. Like you said it's a megacorp. But I want to move on and have a clean break and we can't have that if we're constantly going to be rehashing this argument. So let him name names and give details and if WB can't repudiate him, then they deserve whatever happens to them. That's the only way he'll get Emmerich, Hamada, Berg, and Johns fired anyway, WB has been firm otherwise in saying they're done investigating Ray's accusations.
"Set a tone"?I read this that you cropped out. " Uh no he's not lol. He wanted a non-biased third part investigator which he got. Investigation is over, yet he's now accusing the investigator of covering stuff up despite earlier saying he was happy with the job she was doing. It comes across as being petty with the outcome " Set a tone where Ray was making stuff up because the freaking WB investigator said there was no bases to his claims.
"Set a tone"?
So no actual accusations in there, eh? You threw some pretty damning shit at another poster. Back it up.
EDIT: Look, I'm pretty lenient. Maybe it's the old mod in me talking, but if you got some shit to say about a poster directly, you better come correct, 100%.
Vordon said, "Hey, now's the time for it all to come out and let the cards lie." And you took that as some random ass shit because something. I get y'all waste your time engaging with the OT and that gets you in your feelings, but in here, in the community, maybe be fucking better about it.
I'm saying that if Ray doesn't believe the investigator did a good job, then the only option left to him is the nuclear one. He pushed for an independent unbiased third party investigator, and WB gave him one that came highly recommended. And he was pretty happy earlier. But now the investigation is over. Whatever they found wasn't enough to convict Emmerich, Hamada, Johns, and Berg and get them fired. So if Ray wants them fired, he needs to just outline everything that happened in specific detail because that's the only way he will get what he wants. WB will not be removing those people otherwise, they've been steadfast that it's over. If Ray says X did Y at Z time and WB can't refute it? Well then maybe some of those execs will get fired.So you believe that WB is telling the truth and not trying to cover their fucking asses. Are you kidding me? After everything we know about how shitty WB is why would you believe that the so called investigator is even telling the truth? WB execs arguing that they dont want an angry black man at the center of their movie is a very believable thing that shitty WB execs will do.
You think what that WB will throw Johns their golden boy under the bus? Rick Famuyiwa left too and after rumours of what his Flash movie as gonna be about. Johns most certainly had a hand in that shit and you're saying what?
Jesus this fucking place.
I don't think he's lying. That Whedon seems to have gotten the boot is proof there's solid evidence towards his claims. He also appears to have been right about Whedon fucking him over. But unless he's willing to just take Whedon being out of Hollywood for good as a win and move on, then it's time to out everyone.I have yet to see anyone explain to me what Ray would gain if he lied about all this.
I didn't? They should've approved their pitch instead of declining and ultimately letting Snyder make his Cut if they wanted to move on. Affleck moving on is lessened by Battison coming out. By dragging things out with Cavill and then releasing a movie that was positively received that featured Cavill, all WB has done is ensure the Snyder fanbase will dig in their heels and demand more, which is what they're doing.
Uh no he's not lol. He wanted a non-biased third part investigator which he got. Investigation is over, yet he's now accusing the investigator of covering stuff up despite earlier saying he was happy with the job she was doing. It comes across as being petty with the outcome. His career at WB is over, no reason to hold back especially since he claims to not be under NDA anymore. For the record if Ray brings WB to its knees I wouldn't shed a single tear. Like you said it's a megacorp. But I want to move on and have a clean break and we can't have that if we're constantly going to be rehashing this argument. So let him name names and give details and if WB can't repudiate him, then they deserve whatever happens to them. That's the only way he'll get Emmerich, Hamada, Berg, and Johns fired anyway, WB has been firm otherwise in saying they're done investigating Ray's accusations.
So if Ray isn't under an NDA anymore, his "more now" can be everything right?
Agreed. I get why its there from Zack's perspective, but the new scenes aren't needed at all.This is just my opinion, I think it would've been a stronger movie if everything shot in 2020 was taken out. I get the intention behind it. Essentially treating it like we were back in 2017 or something, this is what it would've been. If you look at the storyboards, the stuff filmed in 2020 is there. But as a standalone, you stop at the shirt rip and it's great.
Agreed. I get why its there from Zack's perspective, but the new scenes aren't needed at all.
Don't get me wrong, I like the scenes, I just don't see the purpose given the current context. Release them as extras instead of actually having them in the film itself.I love the new scenes, but also get where you're coming from. Zack absolutely loaded the gun adding those scenes (particularly the Knightmare scene) and it seems we now won't get a payoff. It's disappointing but a year ago I assumed we'd never see the film at all. I'll take what we've got.
IGNI'm dumb and can't find the link again. There was a video interviewing two of the VFX fellas and talking a little. Outside of general interest in the craft, something they shared about the history lesson (do we need spoilers?)
Originally Darkseid killing the ancient Green Lantern was the same performance capture as Steppenwolf in theatrical. Knowing this was gonna be R, they worked in Darkseid slicing off his hand, along with the touch of trying to grab the ring.
Everything with Harry Lennix was filmed in Zack's driveway. I think the scene with Affleck at the lake house and cut John Stewart, too. Only the little Knightmare moment was "official."
This is just my opinion, I think it would've been a stronger movie if everything shot in 2020 was taken out. I get the intention behind it. Essentially treating it like we were back in 2017 or something, this is what it would've been. If you look at the storyboards, the stuff filmed in 2020 is there. But as a standalone, you stop at the shirt rip and it's great.
Didn't Lord and Miller leave months into the production of Solo because Kennedy didn't agree on the direction of the film? Wasn't massive reshoots ordered for Rogue One which didn't involve the original director. Didn't Edgar Wright, Patty Jenkins, Whedon(ugh!), Ava Duvernay, and other turn down Marvel because they couldn't come to an agreement on creative decisions. The only reason Tsujihara was making the "creative decisions" was because their was no separate DC Films division.Not really. It's a different situation when the then CEO Tsujihara was making creative decisions.
Whatever the other drama is with Hamada, he's a producer experienced in helping facilitate the creative process while keeping it practical with the talent. Which is a resume ass sentence, yeah.
Didn't Lord and Miller leave months into the production of Solo because Kennedy didn't agree on the direction of the film? Wasn't massive reshoots ordered for Rogue One which didn't involve the original director. Didn't Edgar Wright, Patty Jenkins, Whedon(ugh!), Ava Duvernay, and other turn down Marvel because they couldn't come to an agreement on creative decisions. The only reason Tsujihara was making the "creative decisions" was because their was no separate DC Films division.