DCEU Era |OT2| Joker's Wild

BlackGoku03 · Dec 17, 2019

jrush64 said:
lol Star Wars. I loved TLJ but I feel like people overcompensate the way they defend the movie and Rian.

I initially stayed out of the TLJ threads but lately I said f it and gave my opinion.

It's just a meh film for me. Great production values and excellent photography and sound. Just a joy to look at and listen to. But there's a laundry list of poorly executed ideas that may have sounded good on paper but not in action. Rose, Finn, and Poe were completely wasted because of a contrived plot. It's the same plot contrivance that BvS had when Superman could have just explained the situation instead of being roped into fighting.

Penguin · Dec 17, 2019

MHWilliams said:
Joker is not getting for Best Picture. Director is a maybe, but remember there are only five slots. Actor is likely as well, but it's a strong year. But hey, anything could happen.

I think it gets best picture nom

Unless restricted to 5 again

I never remember the rules

Wouldn't be my pick to win

MHWilliams · Dec 17, 2019

Penguin said:
I think it gets best picture nom

Unless restricted to 5 again

I never remember the rules

Wouldn't be my pick to win

Best Picture is up to 10, but they rarely use all ten. Last year was eight, 2018 and 2017 were nine, 2016 was eight.

Irishman
Marriage Story
Parasite
Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a time in Hollywood
The Farewell
Ford v Ferrari
Two Popes

Joker could sneak it after that, but there's also Little Women, 1917, Uncut Gems, Dolemite is my Name, and maybe Rocketman. Golden Globes split the awards between drama and musical/comedy, but the full list is: Irishman, Joker, Marriage Story, Two Popes, 1917, Dolemite, Jojo Rabbit, Knives Out, Once Upon, and Rocketman.

Best case, it's the Black Panther of this year: the film they add to show they're with the times.

J_Viper · Dec 17, 2019

Yeah I'm cool with Joaquin getting his due, but I don't think film itself is on the same level of the year's best

Deleted member 4353 · Dec 17, 2019

Man tomorrow is gonna be a hell of a day when Star Wars reviews hit. I am so there for it. Has nothing to do with DC and im not that into Star Wars so It should be fun.

Firemind · Dec 17, 2019

I'll be very surprised if Parasite gets a best picture nomination. Foreign film maybe.

NinjaDBL · Dec 17, 2019

If Roma could get an Best Picture Oscar nom, so can Parasite.

Also wolf...kinda glad I don't care too much for Star Wars.

Ashhong · Dec 17, 2019

MHWilliams said:
Best Picture is up to 10, but they rarely use all ten. Last year was eight, 2018 and 2017 were nine, 2016 was eight.

Irishman
Marriage Story
Parasite
Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a time in Hollywood
The Farewell
Ford v Ferrari
Two Popes

Joker could sneak it after that, but there's also Little Women, 1917, Uncut Gems, Dolemite is my Name, and maybe Rocketman. Golden Globes split the awards between drama and musical/comedy, but the full list is: Irishman, Joker, Marriage Story, Two Popes, 1917, Dolemite, Jojo Rabbit, Knives Out, Once Upon, and Rocketman.

Best case, it's the Black Panther of this year: the film they add to show they're with the times.

Go Parasite! Has there been a foreign film nominated as best picture before? Also JoJo Rabbit is best picture worthy? Man..maybe I need to rewatch it. I fell asleep after the first half

edit: I see this was discussed just above me lol..

BlackGoku03 · Dec 17, 2019

Firemind said:
I'll be very surprised if Parasite gets a best picture nomination. Foreign film maybe.

It's good enough for both imo but I'd be surprised too.

There were a lot of good movies this year.

J_Viper · Dec 17, 2019

The man who saved Star Wars

Penguin · Dec 17, 2019

MHWilliams said:
Best Picture is up to 10, but they rarely use all ten. Last year was eight, 2018 and 2017 were nine, 2016 was eight.

Irishman
Marriage Story
Parasite
Jojo Rabbit
Once Upon a time in Hollywood
The Farewell
Ford v Ferrari
Two Popes

Joker could sneak it after that, but there's also Little Women, 1917, Uncut Gems, Dolemite is my Name, and maybe Rocketman. Golden Globes split the awards between drama and musical/comedy, but the full list is: Irishman, Joker, Marriage Story, Two Popes, 1917, Dolemite, Jojo Rabbit, Knives Out, Once Upon, and Rocketman.

Best case, it's the Black Panther of this year: the film they add to show they're with the times.

Yeah I'm thinking it gets the Black Panther slot, of no chance in hell, but it builds SOME mainstream interest.

But it's a solid list, and honestly on your list... if I'm gonna fight for one it's Dolemite is My Name.

Cpt-GargameL · Dec 17, 2019

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/bird...arley-quinn-gets-an-official-r-rating-a172275

MHWilliams · Dec 18, 2019

Penguin said:
Yeah I'm thinking it gets the Black Panther slot, of no chance in hell, but it builds SOME mainstream interest.

But it's a solid list, and honestly on your list... if I'm gonna fight for one it's Dolemite is My Name.

Dolemite is fuzzy because Netflix is putting its campaign weight behind Irishman and Marriage Story, but Eddie Murphy's return might get Hollywood to stand up and take notice.

Cpt-GargameL said:
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/bird...arley-quinn-gets-an-official-r-rating-a172275

Not unexpected, but very nice.

bigstef71 · Dec 18, 2019

J_Viper said:
The man who saved Star Wars

I don't think he's ever going to work on another blockbuster franchise again. I really wanted JJ & him to nail the ending. I'll form my own opinion after I see it Wednesday.

Deleted member 4353 · Dec 18, 2019

bigstef71 said:
I don't think he's ever going to work on another blockbuster franchise again. I really wanted JJ & him to nail the ending. I'll form my own opinion after I see it Wednesday.

You know, I honestly had a feeling when i heard he was working with JJ on this movie. Turns out I was right lol. I'll probably end up loving the movie because I generally disagree with movie critics.

I feel like most critics will trash the movie as some sort of retribution for TLJ and the unnecessary hate it received.

bigstef71 · Dec 18, 2019

jrush64 said:
You know, I honestly had a feeling when i heard he was working with JJ on this movie. Turns out I was right lol. I'll probably end up loving the movie because I generally disagree with movie critics.

I feel like most critics will trash the movie as some sort of retribution for TLJ and the unnecessary hate it received.

See and that's bs that they're judging this movie harshly to feel vindicated about the tlj. That definitely shows bias to me. Man I hate how much weight is put into rotten tomatoes. Its ruined the film industry for me personally.

Deleted member 4353 · Dec 18, 2019

bigstef71 said:
See and that's bs that they're judging this movie harshly to feel vindicated about the tlj. That definitely shows bias to me. Man I hate how much weight is put into rotten tomatoes. Its ruined the film industry for me personally.

Agreed man. RT is a problem now and I feel like BvS reception and the toxicity had a thing to do with how big the site got.

Bash TROS so that you can feel vindicated about TLJ. Can't believe I'm actually defending a Star Wars movie. One thing I've always hated is praising something so that you can use that to bash something else and that happens so much nowadays.

Kenzodielocke · Dec 18, 2019

Don't bring this in here, thanks!

Baccus · Dec 18, 2019

J_Viper said:
The man who saved Star Wars

From what I gather this might have been another editing victim. The runtime is apparently too short for what they're trying to tell.

Or he really needs to write simpler stuff next.

Dierce · Dec 18, 2019

Chris Terrio was indeed a false god. Snyder redeemed!

#ReleaseThePreTerrioCutOfBvS

bigstef71 · Dec 18, 2019

Dierce said:
Chris Terrio was indeed a false god. Snyder redeemed!

#ReleaseThePreTerrioCutOfBvS

#TheGoyerCut

bigstef71 · Dec 18, 2019

jrush64 said:
Agreed man. RT is a problem now and I feel like BvS reception and the toxicity had a thing to do with how big the site got.

Bash TROS so that you can feel vindicated about TLJ. Can't believe I'm actually defending a Star Wars movie. One thing I've always hated is praising something so that you can use that to bash something else and that happens so much nowadays.

Honestly I would say even with the dark knight rises it seemed like internet nerds put so much weight into it and then there was man of steel the year after I remember people freaking out. Actually with the dark knight rises they got rid of letting you comment under each individual reviewer because they got death threats. So basically it started because of dc lol.Honestly the best review metric is metacritic and I wish more people used that instead of RT.

Smokey_Run · Dec 18, 2019

bigstef71 said:
Honestly I would say even with the dark knight rises it seemed like internet nerds put so much weight into it and then there was man of steel the year after I remember people freaking out. Actually with the dark knight rises they got rid of letting you comment under each individual reviewer because they got death threats. So basically it started because of dc lol.Honestly the best review metric is metacritic and I wish more people used that instead of RT.

Metacritic means embracing the full 1-10 scale and it's just not going to happen in a place that gravitates towards blockbuster films because it quickly means accepting something in the 50-80 range instead of the 85-94 range (which doesn't offer the same kind of validation). As I've said countless times RT is pointless because you can theoretically make a 3/5 movie, have a vast majority of the critics input it as a fresh review, and end up with a film in the 85-94 range.

BadAss2961 · Dec 18, 2019

RT culture is trash but so is Disney.

Let them fight.

Kaswa101 · Dec 18, 2019

BadAss2961 said:
RT culture is trash but so is Disney.

Let them fight.

Truth.

J_Viper · Dec 18, 2019

Terrio must be a sleeper agent sent to take down major film projects.

Who sent him? Sony?

Galactic Specter · Dec 18, 2019

BadAss2961 said:
RT culture is trash but so is Disney.

Let them fight.

Dysun · Dec 18, 2019

Love to see Man of Steel and BvS get thrown into the review fracas quite often
It gives me a hearty chuckle each time

BlackGoku03 · Dec 18, 2019

Dysun said:
Love to see Man of Steel and BvS get thrown into the review fracas quite often
It gives me a hearty chuckle each time

I noticed that and me too.

Firemind · Dec 18, 2019

And people want JJ Abrams to take over Superman? lol

Shingi_70 · Dec 18, 2019

Firemind said:
And people want JJ Abrams to take over Superman? lol

I don't people do, but WB probably does

BlackGoku03 · Dec 18, 2019

Firemind said:
And people want JJ Abrams to take over Superman? lol

I'd like him to do what he does best: start a franchise off.

But maybe having someone who can see it all the way through is better.

Ashhong · Dec 18, 2019

BlackGoku03 said:
I'd like him to do what he does best: start a franchise off.

But maybe having someone who can see it all the way through is better.

True that. J.J. did great with MI3, which basically started this whole MI resurgence, ST09, Lost, and SW imo. But then again, I like his later stuff too like Into Darkness so what do I know.

Dysun · Dec 18, 2019

I just want more Superman, and not this perpetual limbo

PanSexual_Peacock · Dec 18, 2019

I'm really not a fan of JJ at all so preferably, I'd like to keep him away from Superman. Maybe WB can give the reigns to a promising up-and-coming director we wouldn't have expected. Similar to how Nolan took on Batman.

J_Viper · Dec 18, 2019

Henry should direct MoS2 himself

Kaswa101 · Dec 18, 2019

I love JJ so I'd be fine with him handling Superman. TROS was doomed no matter who directed it, imo.

Chained Prometheus · Dec 19, 2019

Kaswa101 said:
I love JJ so I'd be fine with him handling Superman. TROS was doomed no matter who directed it, imo.

Yeah, there were too many factors getting in the way for TROS to ever really have a chance at working for the masses.

I still think JJ has it in him to make a stellar Superman film.

PanSexual_Peacock said:
I'm really not a fan of JJ at all so preferably, I'd like to keep him away from Superman. Maybe WB can give the reigns to a promising up-and-coming director we wouldn't have expected. Similar to how Nolan took on Batman.

This would also be cool to see, but I doubt that will happen.

GringoSuave89 · Dec 19, 2019

Dianey/Lucasdilm wanted a trilogy asap, with all different writers and directors for each film and no real planning. Shit was always doomed.

Smokey_Run · Dec 19, 2019

J.J. is all nostalgia and no substance. People would fall for it all over again with the first film and then when he has to develop something with the sequel it would all fall apart.

I believe they could do better, but he's gonna do something DC and given his history with Superman, it will likely be that.

Chained Prometheus · Dec 19, 2019

Smokey_Run said:
J.J. is all nostalgia and no substance. People would fall for it all over again with the first film and then when he has to develop something with the sequel it would all fall apart.

I believe they could do better, but he's gonna do something DC and given his history with Superman, it will likely be that.

Well, no, I think it really depends on the content he's working with. Remember that the old script for Superman: Flyby was criticized for being very experimental and nutty with the source material, though I'd expect whatever possible Superman film he'd make today would feel more traditional than that.

My question is whether or not JJ would be interested in working with Henry on the film or not.

Vinimaw · Dec 19, 2019

Movie is great and people have a tendency to overreact for everything.
Give me a JJ Abrams Superman with Chris Terrio.

Firemind · Dec 19, 2019

I like how people think the studio is to blame now instead of the director. The irony.

Vordan · Dec 19, 2019

Kaswa101 said:
I love JJ so I'd be fine with him handling Superman. TROS was doomed no matter who directed it, imo.

Basically how I feel. TLJ really left nothing for him to do, unless you just had the FO win and take over.

Vinimaw said:
Movie is great and people have a tendency to overreact for everything.
Give me a JJ Abrams Superman with Chris Terrio.

No to Terrio, Superman was the second worst part of BvS, with Lex being the worst. He can't write the character well at all. Honestly Terrio should stick to "grounded" stories, he's flopped trying to become a big blockbuster movie guy.

Firemind said:
I like how people think the studio is to blame now instead of the director. The irony.

They are. Disney wanted to pump these movies out quickly reducing the amount of time directors got to make them. KK just let Abrams and Johnson do whatever they want and it turned into a pissing match. The Story Group is a total joke that's only job is to rubber stamp whatever these people put out. Filoni and Favreau should be in charge, Feige is going to turn Star Wars into the same cookie cutter MCU template they've used for every movie since Iron Man.

It's no different from how WB bears a lot of the blame for how the DCEU turned out.

Wingfan19 · Dec 19, 2019

Whew... saw that Cavill topic in the OT and got worried for as second. Then just realized he's a big fucking dork, looooool.

MHWilliams · Dec 19, 2019

I told y'all that it wasn't about DC specifically. It's about the story. The rise or fall. Now you will see Star Wars have to pick itself up.

Boxy Brown · Dec 19, 2019

Wonder if Tenet's is just a one off or Nolan giving WB their next franchise.

Ooopsklo · Dec 19, 2019

I hope they keep cavill he seems awesome

Vordan · Dec 19, 2019

Ross62 said:
Wonder if Tenet's is just a one off or Nolan giving WB their next franchise.

Has Nolan done a sequel to one of his own films that wasn't an adaption like Batman? He's pretty much a franchise himself, since his name alone is usually enough to get people interested in a movie.

Smokey_Run · Dec 19, 2019

Yeah, Nolan is the franchise.

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