Yeah, was going to say it's an improvement over Suicide Squad.Sounded fine to me. A lot better than in Suicide Squad at least.
Oh for sureYeah, was going to say it's an improvement over Suicide Squad.
I think she's close enough to please most.
Problem is what the hell are they gonna do with Batman and Superman? Everything else at least fits the DCEU as we knew it, but 2/3's of the trinity are up in the air. Batman is reset, yet some of his characters live on through Suicide Squad and BoP. Superman is absent.It's fascinating, we're in a moment we haven't really been in since 2014 and maybe not even then
We have a slate of movies and it doesn't feel like many are... questionable
Like Birds of Prey and Wonder Woma 84 are def happening
No way The Batman and Aquaman don't hit their dates.
I have every faith that Shazam will be there when it says. Not sure how Black Adam will turn out, but it will be made.
There's The Flash....
Well most everything seems solid!
BoP is clearly not aimed at hardcore comic book fans, it's for Harley Quinn fans. If you don't like Harley that movie is not for you. The more I see of it the less interested I get but I do think it will be a success.And yet, I still don't feel the general audience consensus is that any of these movies are good or will be good. The amount of groans I heard last night about the BoP commercial were not shocking. Doesn't matter if Aquaman did a billy or WW will (probably) be good, DC movies can't shake the stink. It's so annoying.
For real
The "trio" is Aquaman, WW, and Shazam, with Flash maybe showing up if that can actually get made. Battison is its own thing, Batman doesn't need anyone else to be successful it just needs to not be dogshit. If the Witcher is a huge critical and commercial success maybe Cavill will break through the deadlock, otherwise like the Variety article said, 2023 (Superman's 85th anniversary) is probably when we'll get the new Supes.Problem is what the hell are they gonna do with Batman and Superman? Everything else at least fits the DCEU as we knew it, but 2/3's of the trio are up in the air. Batman is reset, yet some of his characters live on through Suicide Squad and BoP. Superman is absent.
I'm sure that's Reeves plan right now but down the line who knows?There is no larger connected universe that matters. Batman is going to be its own thing. I don't know why people continue to think that it will be folded into anything. The casting screams we're signing up for a small run of films and that's it.
Sounds exhausting.
I'm thinking less about box office and more of how they'll make sense of all this in the broader picture. I really doubt Battinson is completely separate from the DCEU. They probably want to reset Joker, yet they'd also want Margot's Harley involved at some point. 'The Batman' also probably doesn't want to contradict anything going on in Squad and BoP.The "trio" is Aquaman, WW, and Shazam, with Flash maybe showing up if that can actually get made. Battison is its own thing, Batman doesn't need anyone else to be successful it just needs to not be dogshit. If the Witcher is a huge critical and commercial success maybe Cavill will break through the deadlock, otherwise like the Variety article said, 2023 (Superman's 85th anniversary) is probably when we'll get the new Supes.
A JL movie is not happening until 2025 at the absolute earliest and probably not even in the next decade.
Problem is what the hell are they gonna do with Batman and Superman? Everything else at least fits the DCEU as we knew it, but 2/3's of the trinity are up in the air. Batman is reset, yet some of his characters live on through Suicide Squad and BoP. Superman is absent.
They'll say "fuck logic" and just have Harley show up lol. Suits don't give a shit about "continuity" that's for nerds. Of course that's only if Reeves wants Joker or Harley, I gotta assume his contract gives him full creative control.I'm thinking less about box office and more of how they'll make sense of all this in the broader picture. I really doubt Battinson is completely separate from the DCEU. They probably want to reset Joker, yet they'd also want Margot's Harley involved at some point. 'The Batman' also probably doesn't want to contradict anything going on in Squad and BoP.
I can't imagine thinking Batman is in a bad spot when we're getting a movie and an Arkham video game in the future. Superman is getting two animated movies and a TV show. The other JLers are still getting movies. Only character who is for real fucked is poor Cyborg, JL was the last breath for DC's push for him.Batman survived Clooney and Kilmer, Batman will survive Snyder as well.
I can't imagine thinking Batman is in a bad spot when we're getting a movie and an Arkham video game in the future. Superman is getting two animated movies and a TV show. The other JLers are still getting movies. Only character who is for real fucked is poor Cyborg, JL was the last breath for DC's push for him.
But he could've been cool if DC wasn't so obsessed with "Am I a man or a machine?" shit :( but really Ray is the one I feel most bad for. I hope the next time they try JL if they ever do they put Vixen on the team.
I like him in Doom PatrolI can't imagine thinking Batman is in a bad spot when we're getting a movie and an Arkham video game in the future. Superman is getting two animated movies and a TV show. The other JLers are still getting movies. Only character who is for real fucked is poor Cyborg, JL was the last breath for DC's push for him.
Hardcore nerd or not, people are genuinely concerned about that. The worse thing is that we're in a period of not knowing which direction they're going in. Two years ago, Reeves said his Bats was in the DCEU. If that's still true, then cool. If not, then please let us fucking know.Problem is what the hell are they gonna do with Batman and Superman? Everything else at least fits the DCEU as we knew it, but 2/3's of the trinity are up in the air. Batman is reset, yet some of his characters live on through Suicide Squad and BoP. Superman is absent.
I think Shazam 2 will 100% be affected by how Black Adam does. There's just no way they can release those movies 4 months apart and not tie in somehow. If they end BA with Adam showing up present day and it picks right up in Shazam 2, that'd be f'n awesome. And yeah, I'm down for that to be the first time we see Cavill back as Superman as well helping Billy out, but ultimately not being able to stay due to his weakness to magic. That gets the audience back in with the "new" Superman in a family fun movie.Hardcore nerd or not, people are genuinely concerned about that. The worse thing is that we're in a period of not knowing which direction they're going in. Two years ago, Reeves said his Bats was in the DCEU. If that's still true, then cool. If not, then please let us fucking know.
I kinda understand the Superman situation. I mean... just look at Batman. I don't think they want to go in that direction, whatever it is. They see how Cavill's three movies were received. And they don't want to stick to Snyder's vision of Superman's "journey". It really sounds troublesome. So I get that.
Overall though, it's as Penguin said, we're in a sweet spot right now.
I'm hyped as hell for:
Bird of Prey
WW84
Shazam 2
Black Adam
Aquaman 2
The Suicide Squad
All of those movies are gonna be fire. I love each and every one of those properties. The only one that won't light the BO on fire is Shazam 2. Still, I think their successes will force them to get Superman and Bats together.
I remember reading the director saying they wont meet up til the third movie. Idk if that's still true or if I made that all up.I think Shazam 2 will 100% be affected by how Black Adam does. There's just no way they can release those movies 4 months apart and not tie in somehow. If they end BA with Adam showing up present day and it picks right up in Shazam 2, that'd be f'n awesome. And yeah, I'm down for that to be the first time we see Cavill back as Superman as well helping Billy out, but ultimately not being able to stay due to his weakness to magic. That gets the audience back in with the "new" Superman in a family fun movie.
Would make sense, they gotta deal with that Mister Mind tease after all.I remember reading the director saying they wont meet up til the third movie. Idk if that's still true or if I made that all up.
I'd rather they save Mr Mind for the 3rd movie. Gives them time to set up a few more villains in the universe so Shazam can take them all on in his 3rd movie.Would make sense, they gotta deal with that Mister Mind tease after all.
And yet, I still don't feel the general audience consensus is that any of these movies are good or will be good. The amount of groans I heard last night about the BoP commercial were not shocking. Doesn't matter if Aquaman did a billy or WW will (probably) be good, DC movies can't shake the stink. It's so annoying.
Where are you lookingAnd yet, I still don't feel the general audience consensus is that any of these movies are good or will be good. The amount of groans I heard last night about the BoP commercial were not shocking. Doesn't matter if Aquaman did a billy or WW will (probably) be good, DC movies can't shake the stink. It's so annoying.