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DCEU Era |OT2| Joker's Wild
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People want the universe to stay the same, but want to recast 90% of it. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
I don't think those two groups want the same thing. The people asking for recasts just want the Post Snyder films to be only nominally connected to the Snyderverse and just want to see WW and Aquaman team up with the new Batman. They want a cinematic universe just not necessarily one with the Snyder continuity. The people who want the universe to still clearly acknowledge the Snyder films don't really want recasting, except for Ezra maybe. I just want to see good DC films and maybe another JL movie. I'd prefer recasting Flash and Supes because Ezra is fucking everything up and I want a clear break with Snyder's Superman (besides Cavill not being that great and having no chemistry with Adams).
I really don't think that's Warner Bros concern anymore. Their movies are making bank when they are good. That's all they care about and I don't think they want the headache of having someone shepherd an entire universe where one misfire can bring down huge chunks.
They don't have to have every movie leading up to some endgame though, at least not at the moment. They can just have these movies set in the same universe with references to other movies like Shazam did and whenever some director want to use another hero in their movie they'll be able to because it's all set in the same universe. I think having every movie be its own separate thing is very limiting and boring.
No, a big ass universe.
If they continue having a good chance of hitting a billion with each film without a connected universe, there isn't a need.
You can't attract top tier talent to come fix your properties and tell them they need to worry about all this other shit on the side. I think the caliber of actor they are going for with The Batman should show they are trying to kick the tires on a Nolan 2.0 trilogy. Something that is commercially successful AND critically acclaimed without needing to be mindful of what Aquaman is doing.
I could be wrong, but I think the days of connected universes is over. Disney did it too damn good and everyone else did it horribly and they all got burnt. They understand the commitment it takes to lay the ground, continually hit that quality, and it's just too high. In order to do that, you basically need a whole separate subsidiary studio.
I'm not saying WB have to do it to be successful, they can hit a billion on every solo movie, I'm just saying why limit yourself when you have this massive universe to play with. Maybe in the future someone wants to make a proper JL movie, it would feel weird if the cast is different. But I guess we'll see, right now the DCEU is in a good place though with Aquaman, WW, Shazam, BoP, SS and now Black Adam. WB already have a lot in place even if they ignore the Snyder movies.
So Black Adam releases a few days after Avatar 2. I appreciate the balls on WB. Studios shouldn't just roll over and allow Disney to take over the Christmas slot. It's too valuable.
We shall see how it works out.
We shall see how it works out.
My only frame of reference for avatar in recent years is the flying ride at Disney that's pretty neat, the river one was 😐
I honestly have no idea how the new avatar is gonna be quality or box office wise. Could be huge but when I think about it I'm at a big ?
I feel like Avatar is remembered more for being a visual spectacle rather than its frankly uninspired plot. If Cameron can't bring the visuals again I don't know if people will still care. Never a good idea to bet against him, but neither is it a good idea to bet against the Rock.
Doesnt the next avatar have huge underwater spectacle? That will be huge draw. At least for me lol.
Star Wars and Jumanji proved their is enough room for two big hits in any case.
Star Wars and Jumanji proved their is enough room for two big hits in any case.
I dunno how prevalent it is. But i totally lost interest in avatar in the last decade. That said adam will probably get moved.
Hmmm I'm no comics buff and have no allegiance. This sounds awesome. What if he starts the arc of the dceu.
he has his solo movie ending with being recruited by the jl
joins the jl and does jl stuff
Next movie or same, ends up rebelling against the JL because of his opinion on killing and justice, ends up the enemy and fighting the league.
this is so easy lol. easy to have the rock as the centerpiece of your universe
I'm sur that The Rock secured a good budget for this movie, because Black Adam vs Hawkman in a historical setting is not gonna cost the same as Shazam in Toronto.
Shazam was too low budget, and it's part of the reason why it didn't make bank, it lacked spectacle. Even if I loved the movie and thought it was well made, the actions sequence were kind of a let down.
Shazam was too low budget, and it's part of the reason why it didn't make bank, it lacked spectacle. Even if I loved the movie and thought it was well made, the actions sequence were kind of a let down.
Joker has impressive legs.
Also, Titanic's run worldwide always amazes me.
As I said earlier in the thread, I'm unsure if Avatar really got that heat. We'll see.
I'll never understand it. If I don't like something, I generally don't post in those threads.
But my opinion is more important than everyone else's, they must know how much I don't like this thing. I need the attention.
Yeah, me too.
I'm just waiting for the flood of negative DC threads when the billion is official. Still remember the 5 threads posted the Sunday Joker's first weekend results were released.
Fuck, was that from the original opening?
EDIT - Oh, appears to be from the BvS warehouse scene.
EDIT - Oh, appears to be from the BvS warehouse scene.
EDIT - Also a new synopsis for BoP from their artwork challenge which confirms that the whole movie is told via Harley. Which means unreliable narrator.
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Good to see that the Joker did very well and I wonder if half of the upcoming DC films will end up being R rated. Birds of Prey is definitely going to be R rated and possibly The Suicide Squad as well. Flash is never getting made so that one doesn't matter but maybe they will announce Constantine 2 with Keanu returning.
So many possibilities and Joker will likely give WB the impulse to take more risks with unexplored or somewhat successful DC properties (Constantine made $230.9 million on a $100 million budget in 2005 and would likely do 3x as much right now if Keanu is in it).
So many possibilities and Joker will likely give WB the impulse to take more risks with unexplored or somewhat successful DC properties (Constantine made $230.9 million on a $100 million budget in 2005 and would likely do 3x as much right now if Keanu is in it).
I think it's more like the rock does an insane amount of work and it just had to be scheduled.
I mean Hobbs and Shaw was over the summer, now he has jumanji coming out, jungle cruise and some flick with gal gadot, dude also does television and wwe.
That's over kill. 3 is enough. People joke about comic book fatigue but that's a good way to get to that place. Wouldnt want DC doing more than 3.
I know people think marvel is invincible but they will eventually fail and they might bring the whole genre with them
I dont think fail is the right word. Their will always be popular comic book films. Has been for a long time. It just wont be at the peak we are currently in.
I am VERY curious if they just keep chugging along full stop or if we see a decline now that the thanos arc is over. Wouldn't be surprised with either
I would think there would be a decline but at this point I think you can't bet against them. I know a few who are tired but the general audience seems to getting bigger
Gonna be interesting for sure. Personally I think the MCU has peaked - they'll never be able to recapture that "magic" imo, but we'll see what happens.
I'm a lot more interested to see what DC does after the success of Joker.
Its the Valiant universe time to shine!
Bloodshot looks good for real doe.
Four. And that's probably the max. One a quarter.
We're probably going get a run of $600-800 films. Down from the high, but with room to build. DC should be in the same spot but slightly higher.
I forgot who said it but someone said that DC could have a higher ceiling for earning than marvel.
I think stuff like joker and aquaman proved that, I mean people were raving that rocket raccoon and guardians made so much money but I think aquaman being a joke for years and being a massively successful movie is the most impressive thing.
if only league was better than it was and structured and built toward a bit more.
I think stuff like joker and aquaman proved that, I mean people were raving that rocket raccoon and guardians made so much money but I think aquaman being a joke for years and being a massively successful movie is the most impressive thing.
if only league was better than it was and structured and built toward a bit more.
They do. Can you imagine a cinematic crisis on infinite earths with everybody from each movie and tv . Shit would make 3 billion
Eh, not sure I can agree with DC can go higher thing. The top grossing DC film hasnt even made half of the top grossing Marvel film.
But DC doesnt need to chase that. Just make good movies, the money will come, even if it ain't top grossing movie of all time money. And that's fine.
What Marvel accomplished is undeniable and will likely never be replicated, even by them themselves.
But DC doesnt need to chase that. Just make good movies, the money will come, even if it ain't top grossing movie of all time money. And that's fine.
What Marvel accomplished is undeniable and will likely never be replicated, even by them themselves.
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