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DCEU Era |OT2| Joker's Wild
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The Killing Joke's a little more than just that.
But the point is that ever since it was announced Warner and Phillips sold it as an 80's Scorcese movie homage, a "real, adult movie Hollywood doesn't make anymore" and when you do that I'm gonna go with some big expecteations.
I don't think it matters anymore. Most people already know whether or not they're gonna watch the film, and the opening weekend projections are looking great :)
Also Aquaman wasn't "certified fresh" either, and nobody cared lol
Lot of directors probably feel the same way. Phoenix probably wouldn't have been caught dead in a comic book movie other than an experiment like this. Don't care as long as they back it up with a good movie.
How so?
I'm getting tired of DC films nearly always being controversial for one reason or another. Maybe its a result of marvel and disney making the most bland films imaginable but this is just very tiring.
Also I think another thing that pushed a lot of critics over the edge was Joker wining the venice award. It just massively pissed them off.
I feel like the need to prove that their making "real films" has hurt the dceu. The films that ironically feel more like real films are the ones that just go for it and don't feel like they need to be above the source material.
Best bet is just not to take them seriously. In today's game, most of them are just asshats no more qualified to critique a film than you or me.
Controversial and divisive films are often the best ones over time anyway.
There's room for either approach and more.
I'm grateful WB hasn't gone full Disney in uniforming everything. Still being 'director-driven' on occasion.
Yeah I get what you're saying. Unfortunately, "safe" is what sells these days. I'm just glad that WB is still taking risks and not just following a bland template. Give me more director-driven films and I'll be a happy fan :)
I'd love a connected universe akin to the animated stuff, but at the same time, it'd never escape the comparisons to the MCU and it'd severely restrict what the filmmaker would be capable of (imo). So I've come to accept that standalone films are just fine, plus maybe the occasional cameo like with Shazam.
Also, regarding the Golden Lion, that's exactly why you shouldn't care what the critics think lol. Regardless of RT or MC score, I doubt any other CBM will ever get close to such a prestigious award again lol. Joker is gonna be great!
I'll be honest, at this point I'd rather have uniform DC house style if meant the toys can play together without so many issues
If Joker is controversial for "promoting incel violence" as drummed up by journalists, I bet Birds of Prey is going to be controversial for "promoting misandrist violence".
DC just can't escape controversy.
DC just can't escape controversy.
I know Lupita and Tessa but not the others... But yeah, Logan has the look.
And they shouldn't try to.
Remember how even Suicide Squad was edited to exclude Joker's abusive side.
You know the answer to this. Search your feelings.
Like they said in Blackish Hollywood only chooses 1 dark skin actress.
I'm preemptively excited about what the Best Buy exclusive steelbook for Birds Of Prey is going to look like.
Yeah, that thing is a hodgepodge of colors and characters.
Birds of Prey reactions always inevitably include the "DCEU is bad" lines. Which is weird because I'm sure at this point, the recent DC movies have been more films people have liked than not. Feels more like a meme at this point that nerds are not letting go of. Just enjoy the movies.
That metacritic score dropped fast now it's 58 and the rotten tomatoes score is 69% but still certified fresh. Anyways I'm still excited to see it. That thread about terrio talking about The Last Jedi is ridiculous. Certain users love calling him out for bvs and JL which isn't right. I'll defend bvs till the end of time and I think his screenplay wasn't bad and the dialogue was great. Him and Snyder made an interesting movie in my opinion. Also you can't blame him for the JL script because that rewritten to no end
Snyder shat the bed so hard that, even if they know the sheets have been washed at least 2 times (for Joker it's not even the same bed !), they still think they can smell a stench.
I'm just a bit disappointed that they seem focused on Harley... She has no power, she's crazy, jokes, and can hit things with a bat. That's it for me... And they have all the DC characters at their disposal, waiting for someone to be a little adventurous.
Even planning a new Batman trilogy (and try to go back to safety) looks weak. Maybe it'll change if New Gods is a hit.
Man Superman Returns is way better (and weirder) then I remember it being way back when I saw it in theaters
Production design and cinematography are beautiful.
Production design and cinematography are beautiful.
I mean, talk about boring.
Cinematography, sound design, and OST were all good. Casting was decent too. But those can't save a movie...
Guys guys
I estimated $100m opening weekend. If it reaches that someone ship me some cookies please.
Donald, I know you're watching. We haven't forgotten you. See you soon my friend.
I estimated $100m opening weekend. If it reaches that someone ship me some cookies please.
Donald, I know you're watching. We haven't forgotten you. See you soon my friend.
I was let-down by Joker after all the hype. Meh. Going to go see the Harley Quinn exhibit by Comic Con today.
I told y'all.
Believe in me, who believes in Joker.
I don't think I'll like the film, but I also think it'll do great box office. Worst-case it drops hard next weekend, since it might not be a film folks see over and over again.
That seems likely. My friend likened it to disturbing indie horror movies or other films with a similar feeling of dread in them. Excellent but hard to watch or revisit. He brought up hereditary as a point of comparison so I get it lol, I still haven't seen that again since the theatrical release and I loved it.
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