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DCEU Era |OT2| Joker's Wild
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I would've been happy with Antman numbers. I was legit concerned for the movie after the dud that was JL.
I'm glad the movie is making bank. Momoa deserves every bit of fortune coming his way.
Yup, saw some folks already calling it a terrible film. Reminds me when Wonder Woman showed its legs. Gotta move the goalposts when something doesn't flop.
I think captain marvel and Shazam are gonna both do antman numbers.
That's why I don't expect much. Captain marvel looks bland as hell and Shazam really needs that hype new trailer.
Shazam imo is perfectly fine doing Antman numbers. general audiences aren't that hip to the character, but if it turns out good it could really be a nice popcorn flick. Anything over 500 million WW for Shazam is good imo.
Those numbers however wouldn't bode well for Captain Marvel imo. Her movie is going to lead directly into endgame and she's supposed to be a big deal in that.
Those numbers however wouldn't bode well for Captain Marvel imo. Her movie is going to lead directly into endgame and she's supposed to be a big deal in that.
Do not doubt my words.
What? Fans pick 'Avengers,' 'Captain Marvel' as 2019's most anticipated films in Fandango poll
Note: Joker is #10 on this list. Audiences know it exists and want to see it. Shazam is not there, but it has a good amount of space in-between Captain Marvel and Avengers: Endgame. It's only real competition is Hellboy, and Shazam has the lead in terms of audience interest. I'm not sure it'll break out, but $500 million feels about right.
Was about to post something like this, general audiences have never seen a hero quite like Shazam. I predicts it's going to do gangbusters.
Fortunately, its budget should be much lower than the typical superhero film.
Shazam has the potential to be the next big thing in CBMs definitely. It's first trailer was charming as hell and got a lot of attention. Small things like it referencing Batman and Superman had people excited.
Captain Marvel - the trailers really killed my excitement for. I'm sure it will make bank though.
I'm guessing Shazam opens to 52 mil and finishes with 535 mil
Captain Marvel is a tough one for me to predict. WW opened to 103 and had crazy legs, but she's way more well known than Carol. However, CM is riding high on that Marvel juice and is a lead up to Avengers... I hope CM opens to like 110, but my gut says it falls short to like 85 and ends up around 650-675.
Captain Marvel is a tough one for me to predict. WW opened to 103 and had crazy legs, but she's way more well known than Carol. However, CM is riding high on that Marvel juice and is a lead up to Avengers... I hope CM opens to like 110, but my gut says it falls short to like 85 and ends up around 650-675.
I'll go on record as saying the "Shazam breakouts" are overpredictions. In terms of standalone CBMs, a Fandango poll had it behind Dark Phoenix, which I think is going to underperform X-Men Apocalypse.
I think audiences will treat Shazam as a comedy with some action, as opposed to an action film with some comedy. That lowers the audience potential, similar to how Spider-Verse had lowered expectations because it was animated. Looking at the 2017 or 2018 worldwide charts, you have comedies like Pitch Perfect 3, Daddy's Home 2, The Hitman's Bodyguard, Game Night, or Blockers with the top-end at $185 million. Throw a more light-hearted family feel—something that been relegated to animated films these days—and It could surprise a bit. I think that and the DC Universe ties will push it higher, but only into the $400-500 million range at best.
Mark my words. Joker is the breakout, even if it hits that R rating.
I think audiences will treat Shazam as a comedy with some action, as opposed to an action film with some comedy. That lowers the audience potential, similar to how Spider-Verse had lowered expectations because it was animated. Looking at the 2017 or 2018 worldwide charts, you have comedies like Pitch Perfect 3, Daddy's Home 2, The Hitman's Bodyguard, Game Night, or Blockers with the top-end at $185 million. Throw a more light-hearted family feel—something that been relegated to animated films these days—and It could surprise a bit. I think that and the DC Universe ties will push it higher, but only into the $400-500 million range at best.
Mark my words. Joker is the breakout, even if it hits that R rating.
People do indeed love the Joker.
Joaquin in costume got a lot of hype on social media, also.
I'm hoping the next Shazam trailer builds up hyper considerably. The first dropped soon after filming had wrapped, so perhaps too soon to really show any action.
Joaquin in costume got a lot of hype on social media, also.
I'm hoping the next Shazam trailer builds up hyper considerably. The first dropped soon after filming had wrapped, so perhaps too soon to really show any action.
Shazam will be the breakout hit. I was right with Aquamane, and I will be right again.
I feel Joker will do okay. Might not be a breakout but it will pull respectable numbers. And that's coming from someone who is actually looking forward too it.
I feel Joker will do okay. Might not be a breakout but it will pull respectable numbers. And that's coming from someone who is actually looking forward too it.
I'm still a bit cold on Shazam. Waiting on that second (first?) trailer.
The one released at SDCC was def. super early. The description of the second trailer sounded like there's spectacle and such.
The one released at SDCC was def. super early. The description of the second trailer sounded like there's spectacle and such.
I'm hyped for the money shot closing the trailer which people have described.
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Shazam's gonna be fucking tight.
But sweet Jesus, I haven't really been paying attention, shocked that Aquaman's gonna cross Wan billion. Always thought it'd be successful and glad to see DC with a win for once, but good God... never saw this coming. Especially with Bumblebee, Mary Poppins, etc. No idea how this happened tbh.
But sweet Jesus, I haven't really been paying attention, shocked that Aquaman's gonna cross Wan billion. Always thought it'd be successful and glad to see DC with a win for once, but good God... never saw this coming. Especially with Bumblebee, Mary Poppins, etc. No idea how this happened tbh.
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It's Wonder Woman all over again, right down to going up against a Disney movie and a Transformers movie.
I mean it's kinda what people were saying and no one on this board listens, if you get a good director a DC movie will do well. And Wan is one of the most talented directors and producers out there. He basically made F&F breakout even more than it already did and created the only other successful cinematic universe after MCU. I mean the Conjuring universe has 1.2 billion at box office and that's from horror movies who's combined budget was maybe the same as for Aquaman.
Jenkins was more of an unknown when it comes to box office success but I'm guessing Wonder Woman was the first mainstream appeal film she got to tackle. DC films going forward seems to be in good hands. They're doing what they essentially said before they would do: have a filmmaker first approach. I mean at this stage Suicide Squad by Gunn is gonna be huge simply thanks to the brand association plus great director who can do crowdpleasers.
The only thing DC needs to figure out is what to do with Superman and how they'll want to do a Justice League 2, because it's definitely coming after these numbers from Aquaman. Batman they already have figured out because it's basically what Reeves says. I wouldn't be surprised if Fantastic Beasts gets a longer preproduction given what happened with the last film and Erza Miller films Flash this spring.
One missed opportunity is moving Wonder Woman to 2020. Imagine in 12 months time of you had a combo of Aquaman, Shazam and Wonder Woman and we were just in the final phase of BoP marketing. DCEU would be rehabilitated completely.
It was a mistake to delay flash in favor of fantastic beasts.
I mean I love Harry Potter that was my childhood and all that but theyre gonna delay flash because they lacked confidence and vision.
WB fucks around too much, aquaman and Wonder Woman should push them to be bold in the choices they make. They own a brand that has characters with decades of rich history and they show no appreciation for it, JK Rowling has been phoning it for years and they're going all in on her.
I mean I love Harry Potter that was my childhood and all that but theyre gonna delay flash because they lacked confidence and vision.
WB fucks around too much, aquaman and Wonder Woman should push them to be bold in the choices they make. They own a brand that has characters with decades of rich history and they show no appreciation for it, JK Rowling has been phoning it for years and they're going all in on her.
Hell people are still angry about Wonder Women's success. I'm glad DC are finding their footing and getting good results. Bolds positive vibes coming into Shazam.
Tbf, the first Fantastic Beast put up great numbers and Flash kept looking directors. Also, it's the only other franchise they have. They gonna keep moving forward with it until they make no money off of it!
And saying WB shows DC no appreciation is just laughable lol
I honestly can't believe that people are trying to change the narrative to it's a bad movie.
Another one would that makes me roll my eyes is that captain marvel is gonna show the world a real female super hero. Like wtf is that? How stupid would it be if started saying wait till cyborg gets a movie to show the world a real black super hero😭. It's so dumb my god.
Yo I was just coming to say this. People are bitter as hell this movie is doing so well.
Not surprised though. Folks downplay Wonder Woman's success the same way. It's weird.
It's pretty easy to sus out why some peeps here are angry. Big lol at that dude that said WW wasnt' a good female superhero movie. WW is by far one of the best super hero movies of all time male and female. It was so freaking good. AT the end of the day, it just salt on salt really.
Fantastic beasts is sorta junky and I don't really like it, so bias is there lol.
Hand it to marvel that they make some crazy decisions like antman and guardians, appreciation not that they're not thankful they own Superman but not pushing forward with a man of steel 2, they up and basically cancelled cyborg after announcing it and shit like delaying the flash. Studio meddling with squad and JL, appreciation wasn't the right word and it was like they had no confidence in the properties when rocket raccoon and groot are icons.
I forgot who posted it or what thread but it was about comic book movie romances and what seemed genuine and real and gadot and Trevor nailed it so hard. Most romances seem like they're phoning it in.
Why would that surprise you? Folks do the same to Black Panther, or any number of popular films/games/comics/etc.
That and the rise from No Man's Land are the parts WW really nailed.
I just didn't like black panthers 3rd act, parts of it were powerful tho no doubt. Still a good movie.
Michael b Jordan is so great, I wish they keep him around he's to good to just fly off the handle and die. But if he is staying dead, I hope he can be a lantern.
The shine comes off everything eventually once the hype dies down. What's frustrating is the overexaggerating of flaws in an effort to call everything "overrated" or make claims about what deserves to be successful.
Wonder Woman resonated with people. So did Black Panther. So did Aquaman. We can go round and round in circles to prove whether or not they are "objectively" good, but at the end of the day, that doesn't really matter. People like them, and voted with their coins. That's all that matters.
Wonder Woman resonated with people. So did Black Panther. So did Aquaman. We can go round and round in circles to prove whether or not they are "objectively" good, but at the end of the day, that doesn't really matter. People like them, and voted with their coins. That's all that matters.
If Shazam is good then DC is definitely on a roll here. BoP is supposed to have a modest budget correct? I feel that movie will do it's job. The cast for that movie is good.
Hmmm, just thinking about BoP and how they're going to portray their skills. Since they're human, I wonder if the stunt/vfx team will look at how Batman moved in BvS and JL to match the feel? I want badass fighting and above normal human speed/jumping ala the warehouse scene.
Batman mostly fought with overwhelming force. There's going to be a lot more grace in the portrayal I feel.
I mean more in line like how he was able to scutter away when he was hiding in the corner when the cop sees him or him getting away from Doomsday, or doing the drop down pull up in the security cam footage at Lex's facility. For sure the women will have a bit more gracefullness to their fighting style and probably more acrobatics, but I just want to see some impossible moves so it appears we're in the same universe for elite human heroes.
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