Ahhh that analogy kills me. It's too good.
Although I'd play with the numbers a bit. More like 85% vs 50%.
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Although I'd play with the numbers a bit. More like 85% vs 50%.
It's impressive how they put this together, but Hollywood has gotten too gamey with all the CG. Notice it in movies that aren't even cape flicks, like the last couple Fast movies or the recent Tomb Raider.
The whole point of seeing these things in live action is to get that element of reality. The more they go away from practical effects, the more they might as well be animated films. While pretty cool, this Aquaman sequence clearly looks like something straight out of an Uncharted game. In fact, I find myself more impressed by how game developers like Naughty Dog script sequences like this with their own set of complications that come from being an interactive, realtime video game... and without the aid of pre-rendered CG.
Nolan made some shit fight scenes, but I always appreciated his reliance on practical effects.
I look at Snyder's style as a sweet spot for superpowered characters. He uses a lot of green screen, but often tries to make things look as a real as possible.
Figured throw this in here, if any of you have DC Universe.
It's so refreshing to get a DC profile on someone who isn't Batman or Superman or the League as a whole
https://www.dcuniverse.com/videos/dc-spotlight-aquaman/178
It's so refreshing to get a DC profile on someone who isn't Batman or Superman or the League as a whole
https://www.dcuniverse.com/videos/dc-spotlight-aquaman/178
Bay's a hack with a very specific niche. There are numerous action directors who run rings around him in fight scenes and spectacle.
Keep going back to Aquaman's score. Just love everything about it. Hope Rupert Gregson-Williams stays in the DC universe
I honestly never understood why people thought that. Outside of the general Disney love and the belief how Disney can do no wrong (when recently that's shown to not be true) the blind faith in Mary Poppins of all things always confused me. The original came out in 1964. It's a film many today saw as a kid growing up. They might have enjoyed it or not. Most very likely don't even remember anything about the story save for the chorus to "Spoon full of sugar". It's also a musical which is rare these days. Prior to this film even being announced how many people came across people talking about the original in even passing over the years.
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I always thought Mary Poppins was going to do well - both critically and commercially - but people were talking about it like it was gonna be this Infinity War-esque juggernaut and I just didn't get it.
Yes, Disney family movie and "Greatest Showman" and whatnot. Again, the signs were there that it was going to do well. However, go back and watch the trailers and marketing materials for it again. What was there that modern audiences were really supposed to go crazy over to the point that it was going steamroll everything else? Disney was banking way too hard on people's nostalgia for a movie that came out when their grandparents were kids.
The concept of Mary Poppins just doesn't play as well today as it might have even 20 years ago. There's not much about a magical British nanny that's going to grab most people these days, especially when the movie looks to be playing it mostly straight with no real twist on the concept.
Yes, Disney family movie and "Greatest Showman" and whatnot. Again, the signs were there that it was going to do well. However, go back and watch the trailers and marketing materials for it again. What was there that modern audiences were really supposed to go crazy over to the point that it was going steamroll everything else? Disney was banking way too hard on people's nostalgia for a movie that came out when their grandparents were kids.
The concept of Mary Poppins just doesn't play as well today as it might have even 20 years ago. There's not much about a magical British nanny that's going to grab most people these days, especially when the movie looks to be playing it mostly straight with no real twist on the concept.
I'm not a big fan of car chase action sequences, but I can appreciate the practical effects for sure. The recent Fast & Furious films on the other hand has too many CG cars to my liking, while Transformers does not in its car chase scenes. He makes it look like actual cars in most shots which takes me out of the film.
I'm not saying Bay is a bad action director. He can make things look exciting. It's just when you dissect a film like Armageddon, the third act is just on a set that's made to look like an asteroid. Nothing really happens. Before that you have exploding space stations, destruction porn of several cities and basically wanking of the US military. And I like Armageddon. Just not particularly for the action. James Cameron and John McTiernan make action scenes look integral to the story. That's why they're a tier above Bay, even when it comes to practical effects.
Snyder is the first director that made superhero movies look like actual superhumans fighting each other. When you look at some of the action scenes in Marvel's first phase moves, it's honestly embarrassing. Iron Man might actually be the one that aged best because of how short and simple most of its action scenes were shot. Man of Steel has aged a bit in its CGI, but overall it's still stunning to look at. That's all I want from superhero movies.
James Wan might be on the same tier honestly. That Sicily scene is pure kino. Love those long shots from Arthur to Mera and then Mera to Arthur again. Blending action and scenery porn together. That madman. Give the man an oscar.
Speaking of small action moments in these movies, two things I loved in BvS: the shot of Superman (revived by the sun) flying down to knock Doomsday. You see (and hear) the sonic boom and trail in the distance, then the impact. The other is Batman seeing Wonder Woman going at it with Doomsday. It really sells the scale of their abilities.
Conversely, Justice League felt so small. Across MoS, BvS, WW, and Aquaman we saw these action scenes stretch across large environments. JL, even the one across Chernobyl, felt like they were in a small room. Snyder did quite a few of those action scenes, so it was weird how much they felt like Joss' shoddy action from the Avengers duo. Infinity War was such an upgrade over those two.
Conversely, Justice League felt so small. Across MoS, BvS, WW, and Aquaman we saw these action scenes stretch across large environments. JL, even the one across Chernobyl, felt like they were in a small room. Snyder did quite a few of those action scenes, so it was weird how much they felt like Joss' shoddy action from the Avengers duo. Infinity War was such an upgrade over those two.
Joss most likely trimmed the action scenes down for the two hour mandate. There's no way the final products action scenes is what Snyder intended
I didn't agree with most of his point, but I do agree with Zatt that DCEU, especially the Cult of Snyder, can be a very scary bunch.
Not even sure why you would harass someone for not liking Aquaman. I saw the movie, I'm a fan but I can see a lot of the other view points on why people didn't dig it as much.
And also wanna note that Wan makes a point that is often overlooked, and I know a problem in the comic book industry, don't tag folks if you're gonna slam their work. It only makes you look like a giant dick. You can hate it all you want, but no need to draw their attention to it.
I think it depends on who your audience is and how much negative comments fall into your own sight.
Wan has done two things Snyder could never do. Denounce harassment and make a $1 billion superhero movie.
I'm not hater against Snyder, but that cult of his is a scary bunch. I also feel that was who Zatt was referring to in his point but he incorrectly lumped people here in with that which was wrong.
Cult of Snyder is annoying but lets not pretend Zatt didn't have some bs agenda lumping everyone in. He was arguing in bad faith and he knows it.
Sometimes Snyder takes things too far like I loved that Lois knew the guy in the wheel chair wasn't planning on the bombing because he bought fresh fruit. But on the other hand, Snyder you absolute madman you just bombed the fuck out of a courthhouse full of normal people!
I loved the scene and how he took it that far but I can see why it shouldn't have been in a movie they want kids to see.
It's almost too good for the people who just want quips and fights in deserted areas lol. I love Snyder and I I can see his faults but fuck it man, I'm glad there's a big ass blockbuster that's 3 hours long that's his pure vision.
I'm not part of the cult btw. Snyder cut I can take it or leave it.
I loved the scene and how he took it that far but I can see why it shouldn't have been in a movie they want kids to see.
It's almost too good for the people who just want quips and fights in deserted areas lol. I love Snyder and I I can see his faults but fuck it man, I'm glad there's a big ass blockbuster that's 3 hours long that's his pure vision.
I'm not part of the cult btw. Snyder cut I can take it or leave it.
I don't think aquaman would've worked so well if not for momoa, it was some genius level casting. I was watching some random ass action flick starring momoa called "braven" and I was like alright this is before the all the money and nah it was from 2018! Like damn dude, you're not supposed to do these until your bruce willis old.
I'm also glad that DC's biggest heroes right now are a woman and a POC.
I'm also glad that DC's biggest heroes right now are a woman and a POC.
Technically not, but still, why bring him up? Snyder is long gone now and he got harassed to hell and back. Let it go.
Anyways, I like Snyder's movies a lot. I'm in tune with his taste. I checked out Excalibur a couple of years ago cuz Snyder was so high on it and I was blown away. His shit just works for me for whatever reason.
yeah but even if they were longer or better, the scale of the movie would still seem smaller than MoS, BvS, and now Aquaman.
Oh yeah I definitely agree. I honestly think the development schedule was the problem they should've given justice league at least 3 years to be filmed. They could've taken their time to get the script right and come up with some more interesting set pieces. JL didnt even get 2 years to be completed to me that's insane for a big ensemble film
You gotta be a miserable motherfucker to go online and harass people over a movie. That's whether you like it or dislike it.
Somewhere between the DC v Marvel bullshit and everyone wanting to play armchair movie producer, people forgot that this stuff is supposed to be fun.
Somewhere between the DC v Marvel bullshit and everyone wanting to play armchair movie producer, people forgot that this stuff is supposed to be fun.
Definitely agree. I've grown more and more sour on the film over time. It's at the bottom of my list as far as DCEU movies go. Just so disappointing.
Wb just got too greedy. They would have made more money if they just took their time to ensure the film was a hit. Coming off the two previous films it just wasn't epic
Let Snyder chill man.
Dude gets a lot of unnecessary heat.
Links between films will be superficial for a while.
Dude gets a lot of unnecessary heat.
I feel each movie will be solely influenced by each individual creative team behind said movie.
Links between films will be superficial for a while.
If he wants it.
At this point, I'm sure WB is looking at Wan like, "Whatever you wanna do, breh." Dude has been box office gold for a while now. If he decides he wants to helm the next Justice League movie, they'll let him. If he decides he just wants to focus on Aquaman, they'll let him. If he wants to try another character, they'll let him. If he decides he's one and done on this superhero thing, they'll give him a blank check for whatever he wants to do next.
Man's charting his own course at this point.
The big thing to take away from the comparison is Wan is trying to nip that shit in the bud, while Snyder hasn't. And much of the shitty parts of this fandom come from the zealots that instead of telling them calm down, he posts more shit that's basically "look at all the cool shit in MY cut" and then they are riled up again.
The harassment he suffered and continues to suffer is bullshit, but he certainly doesn't do anything to stop the reverse.
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I do agree with this though. Snyder's gone and there's no need to be taking shits at him except you're just one of those people.
Pretty much. And that's fine... WB needs to do something well with these properties. But BoP seems to be the exception. As well as Suicide Squade 2... technically.
Honestly, I'd like to see more cameos where they feel natural like they would in the comics. If you're in Bludhaven, why not see Nightwing?
I mean Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings and the Monster verse are still right there...
I thought the Flash cameo in Suicide Squad was the kind of thing they should do for now. Like, duh Captain Boomerang was captured by The Flash and it was nice that we got to see it.
Like how cool would it have been if the framing device for Wonder Woman 1984 was her telling the story of her adventures in the 80s to Lois Lane or Clark Kent for the Daily Planet? Or if in the Flash movie he has to stop by Star Labs and get some file or something from Cyborg? No building up to some big event; just small little cameos that remind you these characters are in the same world but also don't interfere with the individual movie's story.
Like how cool would it have been if the framing device for Wonder Woman 1984 was her telling the story of her adventures in the 80s to Lois Lane or Clark Kent for the Daily Planet? Or if in the Flash movie he has to stop by Star Labs and get some file or something from Cyborg? No building up to some big event; just small little cameos that remind you these characters are in the same world but also don't interfere with the individual movie's story.
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Yeah. I'm down for that. Like I said, the cameos would feel natural and not forced or bombastic.
But Superman has a new movie coming out in just a few weeks!
Can't find the reddit thread but there's apparently been a Shazam screening
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies...knight-trilogy/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Not sure how reliable
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies...knight-trilogy/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Not sure how reliable
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Sounds like bullshit
https://old.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/aat9di/i_saw_an_early_screening_for_shazam_and_its/
https://old.reddit.com/user/donna201299/comments/
They deleted the "review"
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