I haven't had a chance to see Cathy Yan's movie, but the talk about it has been great.
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I haven't had a chance to see Cathy Yan's movie, but the talk about it has been great.
Writing was awful. The conversation about Manta's Grandpop in the middle of the submarine piracy scene was some dreadful exposition; the line about tears in the ocean etc. Wan REALLY elevated the material along with the actors. I'm shocked that DC green lighted this script; in lesser hands this could have been Sqwad awful. In general though I thought it was great.
If Aquaman really does well, I'm thinking a lot of these stalled projects will finally move forward
In the theater now boys
I think anything that isn't in pre production is tbh
Aquaman is a crowd-pleaser. Wan is a really interesting director, I was really into the editing on the film and the CGI was very good. I feel it will make bank over the holidays because it has a nice blend of themes. I also like the music for Orm and Black Manta. So bad ass. Need to listen to the soundtrack.
The only thing I kind of dislike was that song (you'll know).
The only thing I kind of dislike was that song (you'll know).
Eh that's an odd way to think of it
Like clearly stalled projects like The Batman, Flash, 100 versions of Lobo, etc
But a film that was only announced earlier this year seems fine to not hear a ton about
Usually yeah but this is DC we're talking about lol
Anyway, I wonder what hits first, New Gods or Eternals?
I think New Gods is a case of WB knowing the importance of the property and wanting to take their time and get it absolutely right.
Ava is a busy woman and she approached WB about New Gods rather than the other way around. Given they just signed that huge deal with her, I'd say the project is gonna happen, but it's going to take time.
Again, I'm not sure what people are wanting here. It's like we hear about a project one week and if we don't get a director and casting the next week, it's instantly a "stalled project." Movies take time to get going. Be patient.
Again, I'm not sure what people are wanting here. It's like we hear about a project one week and if we don't get a director and casting the next week, it's instantly a "stalled project." Movies take time to get going. Be patient.
Eternals. MCU has plenty of empty slots near future to get filled.
New Gods has potential to be something truly unique If they don't turn it into a conventional blockbuster. It'd be really easy to make a New Gods as a Barda and Scott Free 'origin' story, the Granny Goodness and the Furies as the main antagonist with Darkseid as the looming figure over everything.
That's be neat, too, but it can be so much more.
They could seriously play the long game with Darkseid now. No matter what anyone says, BvS and JL still count in this universe and have planted some seeds for Darkseid and Apokolips. New Gods can give us full backstory of Darskeid and High Father and people will connect the dots when they see the Omega symbol and hear about Mother Boxes, etc. When we get the eventual JL2 with EVERYONE (including some New Gods like Orion) taking on Darkseid, it could feel more epic than Infinity War. But, it will take another 6-8 years to get there.
Aquaman was killer, it was less of a comic flick and more of a high fantasy adventure but that's what made it really work. The action was particularly excellent
Momoa did a great job leading the film as well. I always knew he had it in him, he just needed the right director to utilize his potential.
Momoa did a great job leading the film as well. I always knew he had it in him, he just needed the right director to utilize his potential.
Idk why everyone thought it would be. It's way too late to cash in on nostalgia like most of these Disney remakes/sequels, and the marketing has been so tame I doubt they grabbed too many people who weren't already interested. It could still have legs and it'll ultimately be successful, but people were acting like this was The Lion King or something.
Basically.
Folks really thought 30-somethings and their kids were going to see a sequel to a movie from the 60s over two superhero movies, Transformers, and The Grinch (for those theaters still playing it).
I think it was
1)It's Disney
2)It's a musical during Christmas time coming off of The Greatest Showman's AMAZING run last year
3)It's a known quantity, beloved by all who remember it.
4)And this is a larger one, coming into the holiday season it was family-friendly... I mean DC didn't have the best track record and Transformers is a bit of a boys club.
1)It's Disney
2)It's a musical during Christmas time coming off of The Greatest Showman's AMAZING run last year
3)It's a known quantity, beloved by all who remember it.
4)And this is a larger one, coming into the holiday season it was family-friendly... I mean DC didn't have the best track record and Transformers is a bit of a boys club.
I don't think DC's track record matters as much as people think. People point to Justice League, but that was the only real bomb and it's so-so marketing campaign and abysmal reviews/WOM didn't do it any favors. Wonder Woman did just fine not 6 months prior, and Suicide Squad's box office suggests more people liked it than internet chatter would have you believe.
The perception of DC does matter, but mostly in "fan" circles like the kind Era members would be a part of. The general audience mostly either just want to see cool shit, or literally cannot tell the difference.
The perception of DC does matter, but mostly in "fan" circles like the kind Era members would be a part of. The general audience mostly either just want to see cool shit, or literally cannot tell the difference.
True but WB is trying to rebuild the brand. You need only look at Bayformers to see that eventually "shit exploding" only takes you so far. Critical success at this stage helps silence those who mindlessly regurgitate RT scores as gospel.
Really enjoyed the movie, wish it delved deeper into certain areas but enjoyed it overall.
Also love that Ross gave me shit on these forums for saying it was going to hit between high 50's and high 60's and I cut the middle.... and the score stands smack dab in the middle.
Also love that Ross gave me shit on these forums for saying it was going to hit between high 50's and high 60's and I cut the middle.... and the score stands smack dab in the middle.
Right but I don't think they're at that point yet. At least not in terms of things affecting their box office between different movies. Like I said, Wonder Woman did fine carrying all the baggage from Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and Suicide Squad. More than fine, even.
With Transformers, things are a bit different because that's one series helmed by one director until the latest one. It's easier for audiences to make the connection that "Transformers = bad," and even then, it took damn near a decade for general audiences to finally be like "Nah, we good." DC is a little different for many people it all just meshes together as "superhero movies." Had things continued the way they were going, they would have hit that point eventually. With Aquaman doing well, they'll be fine if they can keep up the momentum.
Nah, but don't act dickish and antagonist for no reason and expect not to get checked.
Once I saw how CG heavy it was, I knew a matinee was the absolute best it'd get. They are not into the whole "big CG battle" stuff at all, and that's half this film's appeal.
But a "Some ol bullshit?" Got damn.
Those same critics probably don't have the same complaints when marvel studio movies do worse in those areas. Or even if they complain they still rate those movies positively. There is clearly a double standard.
It's not bad. Film's out, and more importantly Aquaman is only blockbuster for the holiday season.
Animated films perform differently, so Spider-Verse has a different audience. Poppins is family friendly, but the box office is looking soft. Bumblebee is good, but pay for the sins of past Transformers films. Mortal Engines has already flopped out.
Think of it like Venom. Even if the critical reception is rough, the film is good enough and there's nothing in its way. See also: Jumanji last year. I don't think you're getting a billy, but Aquaman will do just fine.
I think with it becoming WB's highest grossing film in China within it's second weekend, a sequel is a guarantee at this point
I'm not worried about Aquaman's profits, I'm worried that it getting a Rotten will cause more panic at WB HQ. I don't look forward to the usual suspects using its RT score to proclaim the DCEU is in crisis again.
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I fully appreciate the movie leaning into full on ridiculousness. I felt like the people that made the movie may as well have whispered in my ear at the start of the movie "this shit is straight up bananas, just roll with it."
Jason was honestly pretty good as aquaman. I was kinda worried going in but his arc was handled well. His "bro-ness" kinda works to the movies advantage as he grows more throughout the movie. becomes more kingly.
That classic Aquaman suit tho, Jesus Christ. It pops on screen. I can't believe it looks as good as it does.
Mera was excellent. Really good chemistry to bounce off Arthur. Their relationship felt a touch rushed but I enjoyed what was developed. She has a big moment in the Italy fight and the crowd went absolutely nuts lol. Interested to see how they show her in the sequel. A moment between Arthur and Mera towards the end was breathtakingly beautiful. Mera bonding with humanity and the flower scene were very endearing.
Orm was pretty good as the primary antagonist. Just hammy enough to work for the movie, but Wilson knew when to pull back. Black Manta was cool, but wanted more. His screen presence was super dope, excited to see more. The black manta suit tho, whew. James Wan deserves a special award just for that suit. When he shows up in later he looks weird as hell, just like the character should haha.
Whole supporting cast was good. Dafoe was great as always. Needed a little more Dolph sniffing out crime but I liked seeing him. Kidman was pretty touching as the mom. The dad was really good too.
The fights, world/creature design, music, vfx were really rad. I loved the look of atlantis, so beautiful. pure joyous spectacle.
Aquaman is over the top and crazy like an 80s action movie. Super enjoyable. I thought the quotes mentioning Indiana Jones and lotr vibes were gonna be bullshit, turns out that was right on the money. felt more like an old school adventure story more than anything else.
Don't skip this one in theaters, see it in imax. The trench sequence (and honestly a good portion of the third act) reach nutted but still sucking status.
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lmao
James really is the chosen Wan
I fully appreciate the movie leaning into full on ridiculousness. I felt like the people that made the movie may as well have whispered in my ear at the start of the movie "this shit is straight up bananas, just roll with it."
Jason was honestly pretty good as aquaman. I was kinda worried going in but his arc was handled well. His "bro-ness" kinda works to the movies advantage as he grows more throughout the movie. becomes more kingly.
That classic Aquaman suit tho, Jesus Christ. It pops on screen. I can't believe it looks as good as it does.
Mera was excellent. Really good chemistry to bounce off Arthur. Their relationship felt a touch rushed but I enjoyed what was developed. She has a big moment in the Italy fight and the crowd went absolutely nuts lol. Interested to see how they show her in the sequel. A moment between Arthur and Mera towards the end was breathtakingly beautiful. Mera bonding with humanity and the flower scene were very endearing.
Orm was pretty good as the primary antagonist. Just hammy enough to work for the movie, but Wilson knew when to pull back. Black Manta was cool, but wanted more. His screen presence was super dope, excited to see more. The black manta suit tho, whew. James Wan deserves a special award just for that suit. When he shows up in later he looks weird as hell, just like the character should haha.
Whole supporting cast was good. Dafoe was great as always. Needed a little more Dolph sniffing out crime but I liked seeing him. Kidman was pretty touching as the mom. The dad was really good too.
The fights, world/creature design, music, vfx were really rad. I loved the look of atlantis, so beautiful. pure joyous spectacle.
Aquaman is over the top and crazy like an 80s action movie. Super enjoyable. I thought the quotes mentioning Indiana Jones and lotr vibes were gonna be bullshit, turns out that was right on the money. felt more like an old school adventure story more than anything else.
Don't skip this one in theaters, see it in imax. The trench sequence (and honestly a good portion of the third act) reach nutted but still sucking status.
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Julie Andrews as giant kraken that has a heart to heart conversation with Arthur and during the gladiator battle a drumming octopus kicks things off
James really is the chosen Wan
Yeah it would be a massive shame if WB took the wrong messages.
Let Wan go crazy again with the sequel. The set ups there now - a focused script for the sequel and go full on CHEESE again.
I LOVED the Saturday morning cartoon feel of it all.
Can't wait to rewatch it.
Yup. Fantastic Beasts 2 is more of a problem.
Note: Aquaman isn't Justice League. Justice League was meant to be the tentpole release for the entire universe of films. Aquaman is a solo entry. Its budget is reportedly around $160-200 million, which is line with previous DCEU films. It's already sitting at $332 million without today's domestic release, so $700+ million is mostly a given, I'm feeling around $800 million.
It's getting a sequel. WB is very happy with it.
Speaking of crabsolute units, Jesus Christ look at those arms.
Watching the New Rockstars video about the mid credits stinger and they have some cam shots from it which show off some fun easter eggs
The newspaper that Manta throws his dagger into is from The Coast City Ledger
There's a paper to the right of that one (I think the New York Times) with something about the "Myth of Atlantis"
The paper below the times has a headline that says, "Wonder Woman and Aquaman dating?"
There's an article to the left of the Coast City front page with what appears to be something Superman related, but I can't make out everything... "Something something Superman frees wrecking crew something something something"
There's a paper to the right of that one (I think the New York Times) with something about the "Myth of Atlantis"
The paper below the times has a headline that says, "Wonder Woman and Aquaman dating?"
There's an article to the left of the Coast City front page with what appears to be something Superman related, but I can't make out everything... "Something something Superman frees wrecking crew something something something"
No, it was at 76% at one point, then just kept sinking (lulz).Wasn't it at like 85% for a while?
It's probably gonna get down to like 54%. Movie seems great yet it just keeps sinking. I dont get it.
It simply doesn't have marvel in its title. It's really that simple and Shazam will once and for all settle whatever doubt there might be. Wonder Woman being an outlier for obvious reasons.
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