Y'all do this Everytime... it's been the top of the charts everywhere except Us(it's number two). Benji has said it's been tracking well(Several several times)
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Days Gone Spoilers Come for You Thread
- Thread starter Loudninja
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Y'all? Okay, it seems if anyone has a different opinion than rainbows and butterflies about the game is a troll, We will see, i hope I'm wrong, looking forward to a sequel on better hardware.
It has nothing to do with rainbows or butterflies the info is right there for you
I feel like this game treats a relationship between a man and a woman in the most respectful way? Or at least it feels like it. Both of them shown in the flashbacks are flawed as hell, and neither of them are perfect. The game even handles the "supposed" Wife in The Fridge trope better throughout the game, cause the player can go to the rock and just talk to "Sarah" - Hell they handled it better than God of War (2018) where I kinda don't even remember anything about Kratos' wife, or why he loved her other than... kid?. Then the reunion happens in Days Gone, and it is actually shown realistically, rather than the Hollywood trope of everybody being happy seeing each other.
Then Chelmut college scene happens with Sarah basically shown having severe PTSD. Most games have these weird idealistic way of looking at relationships, but in Days Gone it was handled masterfully. Some really powerful scenes with Sarah and Deek though. The Chelmut college scene made me choke up, and before that where Sarah goes: "Why are you even still here" wrecked me emotionally.
The one thing that kinda annoyed me is how they pulled the "Old White Man with Bible quotes" doing weird military fascist things (European here, so I guess this is viewed as something plausible?). Kouri at that point should have relieved Matt from duty with a couple of soldiers, and said to him, you are unfit for duty, people keep leaving because of you.
Then Chelmut college scene happens with Sarah basically shown having severe PTSD. Most games have these weird idealistic way of looking at relationships, but in Days Gone it was handled masterfully. Some really powerful scenes with Sarah and Deek though. The Chelmut college scene made me choke up, and before that where Sarah goes: "Why are you even still here" wrecked me emotionally.
The one thing that kinda annoyed me is how they pulled the "Old White Man with Bible quotes" doing weird military fascist things (European here, so I guess this is viewed as something plausible?). Kouri at that point should have relieved Matt from duty with a couple of soldiers, and said to him, you are unfit for duty, people keep leaving because of you.
nah not nikki, the gun merchant npc in lost lake, everytime i talked to her she was clearly super into deacon lol.
Was really disappointed when Boozer turned out to be alive after the explosion, this game takes a lot of inspiration from TLoU and RDR so they should have continued with it and killed Boozer and even Rikki and the nurse, this is a post-apocalyptic world we need to see characters dying left and right.
And it's weird that when you complete the story, the camps suddenly don't need your help anymore! They focused too much on Iron Mike's camp that they ignored the other camps and their leaders after reaching half of the story, I sure as hell don't wanna see Tucker again if there's ever a sequel, she should be dead as well.
Decent story overall, just didn't like Bend saving all these characters for a sequel.
And it's weird that when you complete the story, the camps suddenly don't need your help anymore! They focused too much on Iron Mike's camp that they ignored the other camps and their leaders after reaching half of the story, I sure as hell don't wanna see Tucker again if there's ever a sequel, she should be dead as well.
Decent story overall, just didn't like Bend saving all these characters for a sequel.
I felt like Rikki was one of the best characters and I wish Deacon was with her instead. It would have made the romantic story more interesting for him to be with Rikki and then find his wife.
So are the freakers are evolving into more sentient beings?
So are the freakers are evolving into more sentient beings?
my guess is that the nero people have some way, temporary cure or drugs to keep the benefits of the mutation without the turning braindead/feral/shit yourself part.
And we will fight them in a sequel where they consider themselves to be the ubermensch race or some shit.
Maybe they even kidnap persons of interest which they deem worthy or useful and turn them into one of them so they can control them (stay with us or turn feral blackmail), sarah could be a target.
And we will fight them in a sequel where they consider themselves to be the ubermensch race or some shit.
Maybe they even kidnap persons of interest which they deem worthy or useful and turn them into one of them so they can control them (stay with us or turn feral blackmail), sarah could be a target.
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I thought it was kinda interesting in that they showed he didn't actually appear to know the bible very well. I'm not sure if he was a fraud, or was suffering from dementia. It wasn't really played like your typical end-times preacher shit. And he was genuinely accomplishing a lot.
Either way I think the doctor who died was his lover, and that precipitated his psychotic break.
I loved how Deacon, after reuniting with Sarah - can't fucking deal with it. His image of his perfect wife Sarah got shattered with her wife becoming a hardened badass after 2 years, and seeing her being able to shoot another human in the face was a shock to him, which came around back to him - because it let him see what he's become.
I thought the same, the difference in his reaction to the doctor and Sarah going out into the shit plus him saying he was going to grieve privately for the doctor was telling.
That secret ending though, hyped as fuck for a sequel and looks like this is selling well enough for us to get one. This game was way better written, with a way better story than I was expecting. The characters were the best part of the story, but the story beats were pretty good too.
One of the post credit missions reveals Rikki and Addy were sleeping together and the casual way they reveal it was as if it was known all along.
I never got that vibe.
I never got that vibe.
Addy was like , constantly jealous and insecure about their relationship throughout the entire game.
Addy's a great character, design, personality, voice acting wise.
Really, I'm surprised at most characters in this game.
Really, I'm surprised at most characters in this game.
huh
is this a missable event?
their relationship was revealed numerous times in my run.
Maybe I wasn't paying attention. I just thought Addy liked/wanted Rikki but Rikki wanted Deacon.
what I like of Days Gone's characterisation:
I like that Deacon is a character that genuinely struggles with his ludonarrative disonnance in a way that affects himself and other people.
When he's alone, he's ansty, unhinged and bloodthirsty. He has zero remorse in murdering his enemies. When he's with others, he's "normal", well - as normal as most people can be.
But later in the climax of the second act, we see Deacon's bloodthirsty side spill out once it was revealed that Carlos was an old friend of his, and he has zero qualms going off to commit mass murder of hundreds of Rippers, and that action of his - which he has zero regret or remorse for - makes other people very uncomfortable of him in that moment.
And throughout the game - we see this reflected in smaller ways. He's constantly dishonest with Boozer about his lingering motives to move on from Sarah, Boozer constantly calls out how Deacon is regularly a daredevil who jumps head first into situations that is likely to get him killed.
From there, we can see now - Deacon's continuous struggles, why he finds it difficult to plant his roots, why he has difficulty being honest about his problems. He lives his life, as if wanting to burn out - because he has nothing to live for. His best friend grounds him to a semblance of reality, but if not for Boozer, Deacon would literally be a crazyman.
And that is not a part of him that other people were able to touch or affect directly. Boozer can see it, and call him out on it when he sees how he acts when talking about Sarah, but it's not like Deacon becomes any different.
And once the game has you reunited with Sarah, that becomes even more pronounced. Deacon has been living in some sort of delusion-land, reminiscing of Sarah non-stop. But seeing Sarah, hardened by the militia life - made him really uncomfortable. He has difficulty coming terms with it.
When Sarah was able to mercilessly kill another human in front of him, he was shell-shocked. His wife has become a different person, but at the same time it's still his wife at his core, and learning that her plan was to save the Freakers instead of kill them, while abrupt, brought a different meaning for him.
And while I don't think it was the best execution there - I feel like that was a strong impetus for Deacon to suddenly look inside himself, and want to change. To have something to live for.
Ultimately, I think Deacon was a really strong character. It's not the best execution - I feel like his outlaw MC aspect wasn't really as highlighted as strongly as it could be, I feel like his shift from becoming a somewhat selfish, unhinged person but good at heart person to his more paragon-ish side at the final arc wasn't the smoothest transition feasible, and I would've liked more interactions with Captain Kouri/Doctor/etc etc for him to find more of his humanity within Camp 4/5...
But damn, I'm pretty impressed overall. And he's not the only well-written character in the game. Iron Mike, Captain Kouri, Skizzo, Addy, Rikki, O'brian, etc. It had a really strong cast and had their arcs been tighter and less bogged down by a lot of missions that spread out their character arcs too loosely, their portrayal would be recognised more.
I like that Deacon is a character that genuinely struggles with his ludonarrative disonnance in a way that affects himself and other people.
When he's alone, he's ansty, unhinged and bloodthirsty. He has zero remorse in murdering his enemies. When he's with others, he's "normal", well - as normal as most people can be.
But later in the climax of the second act, we see Deacon's bloodthirsty side spill out once it was revealed that Carlos was an old friend of his, and he has zero qualms going off to commit mass murder of hundreds of Rippers, and that action of his - which he has zero regret or remorse for - makes other people very uncomfortable of him in that moment.
And throughout the game - we see this reflected in smaller ways. He's constantly dishonest with Boozer about his lingering motives to move on from Sarah, Boozer constantly calls out how Deacon is regularly a daredevil who jumps head first into situations that is likely to get him killed.
From there, we can see now - Deacon's continuous struggles, why he finds it difficult to plant his roots, why he has difficulty being honest about his problems. He lives his life, as if wanting to burn out - because he has nothing to live for. His best friend grounds him to a semblance of reality, but if not for Boozer, Deacon would literally be a crazyman.
And that is not a part of him that other people were able to touch or affect directly. Boozer can see it, and call him out on it when he sees how he acts when talking about Sarah, but it's not like Deacon becomes any different.
And once the game has you reunited with Sarah, that becomes even more pronounced. Deacon has been living in some sort of delusion-land, reminiscing of Sarah non-stop. But seeing Sarah, hardened by the militia life - made him really uncomfortable. He has difficulty coming terms with it.
When Sarah was able to mercilessly kill another human in front of him, he was shell-shocked. His wife has become a different person, but at the same time it's still his wife at his core, and learning that her plan was to save the Freakers instead of kill them, while abrupt, brought a different meaning for him.
And while I don't think it was the best execution there - I feel like that was a strong impetus for Deacon to suddenly look inside himself, and want to change. To have something to live for.
Ultimately, I think Deacon was a really strong character. It's not the best execution - I feel like his outlaw MC aspect wasn't really as highlighted as strongly as it could be, I feel like his shift from becoming a somewhat selfish, unhinged person but good at heart person to his more paragon-ish side at the final arc wasn't the smoothest transition feasible, and I would've liked more interactions with Captain Kouri/Doctor/etc etc for him to find more of his humanity within Camp 4/5...
But damn, I'm pretty impressed overall. And he's not the only well-written character in the game. Iron Mike, Captain Kouri, Skizzo, Addy, Rikki, O'brian, etc. It had a really strong cast and had their arcs been tighter and less bogged down by a lot of missions that spread out their character arcs too loosely, their portrayal would be recognised more.
They were in a relationship, but it was implied to be in a flux depending on when it is.
I think Rikki said about how 'nothing's solid/concrete' these days. And we can see it with how they seem to be like in an argument every 4th time they interacted. From the interactions, I think we can see that Rikki seems to find Addy a tad bit too much of a control/worry-freak, and isn't as open minded about relationships compared to Rikki. Whereas Addy in general is just too stiff, and is worried about their relationship not holding on, since Addy is a lesbian but Rikki is bisexual.
They revealed their relationship much earlier and was pretty clear about it.
Addy could see Riki and Deke getting closer and with her own anxiety about not being good enough as their doctor started getting jealous and snapping at Riki.
The scene with Rikki and Deacon almost boning was actually hotter than the scene with Sarah and Deacon boning.
Watching credits roll, loved the ending. Have a few complaints when it comes to pacing, load times, technical issues. But man I haven't been this invested in characters in quite some time. So many times where I was distraught, happy, sad.
I felt such a gut punch when you finally find Sarah and she's basically indifferent, or so it seems, I just wanted to hug Deacon.
I have faith Bend will iron out all the technical issues and have a better gameplan for the sequel, especially since it'll be running on new hardware. Can't wait to see the continuation of this story!
I felt such a gut punch when you finally find Sarah and she's basically indifferent, or so it seems, I just wanted to hug Deacon.
I have faith Bend will iron out all the technical issues and have a better gameplan for the sequel, especially since it'll be running on new hardware. Can't wait to see the continuation of this story!
It's a flawed game, too long for it's own good.
But damn, it had one of the most realistic and heartfelt human interactions I've seen in a while. It's never over the top, it just feels natural.
Rikki, Boozer, Iron Mike, Skizzo, Deacon, Sarah. They all felt like real people instead of plot device. Like I could see them being real people, something I don't usually do with video game characters. And I'm really glad Boozer didn't die, best bro.
I still ship Deacon and Rikki, tho.
They have more chemistry then him and Sarah had. Well, after he found her back.
The two of them became really different people and we could see them trying their best to still be together but.. I don't know, it felt very awkward in the end.
Does anyone else feel the same ?
But damn, it had one of the most realistic and heartfelt human interactions I've seen in a while. It's never over the top, it just feels natural.
Rikki, Boozer, Iron Mike, Skizzo, Deacon, Sarah. They all felt like real people instead of plot device. Like I could see them being real people, something I don't usually do with video game characters. And I'm really glad Boozer didn't die, best bro.
I still ship Deacon and Rikki, tho.
They have more chemistry then him and Sarah had. Well, after he found her back.
The two of them became really different people and we could see them trying their best to still be together but.. I don't know, it felt very awkward in the end.
Does anyone else feel the same ?
I definitely feel there could be more development on future installments on how Sarah became a survivor and how it affects Deacon's relationship with her.
I love me some Rikki.
Haven't finished the game but kinda know where it's going from where I'm at. Just wanted to say I wish decision making was still in the game. Would've left Leon to the freakers and wouldn't have let Taylor go unpunished. My Deacon would've been heartless.
Just got to this part
Holy wow
I was guessing a sequel would just up the ante with hordes and types of freak but... If it goes into full blown mutants as characters (villains even) and tactically active/intelligent supernatural enemies... Whoa
No way. The way the game spends the entire 50 hour run time hammering home that people are people and freaks are freaks makes it a total surprise when he takes off that mask. It goes from pretty realistic Walking Dead territory to full blown Resident Evil in a heartbeat, after like 60 hours of run time.
It's a little bit suspicious he always has the mask on, but then we are fully post outbreak with an even more highly mutated virus out there, so it's not that surprising he'd keep it on after the initial night
There are some other great bits where people almost get to the heart of how messed up deacon is but he very cunningly slides past the topic
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I just got my platinum!! Really enjoyed it overall, but there's one thing I've been thinking about - how do people get infected? Can you turn like in other popular "zombie" fiction? I know how it started to spread, but do people still get infected or was is it just the ones who were initially infected that are out there? Don't know if it was ever brought up in an audio recording or not.
I really liked that part. Deacon definitely had in mind some sort of Hollywoodesque reunion where Sarah would run to his arms and they'd escape together asap, but the we discover that she had other priorities.
I liked the way they handled Sarah's arc. At first they led us to believe that she wants to stay at the camp because she's a gentle soul, but it turns out that she wants to find a cure out of remorse.
I don't know, I feel like Sarah being distant most of the time while we are in the militia is due to Sarah's remorse. Like, she really wants to be with Deek, but the fact that this apocalypse happened was in part thanks to her research (and that she could have done something to prevent the outbreak) just won't let her run away.
She's been carrying a hell of a burden for a couple of years, so she's definitely changed. I think we got to see part of the old Sarah once she shared her story with Deacon (and then everything went to hell thanks to the colonel and the shithead Skizzo, so we didn't get to see many interactions between Deek and Sarah afte that).
Finished the game earlier today. Really great game that I enjoyed a lot. Some stuff here and there were a bit weird and you can feel that they changed the scope of the game a lot during the development. My biggest wish for next game is that they plan everything from the start to make everything fit tightly together.
Now as for the story, I really enjoyed it despite the janky way it was structured. Deacon and Boozer and the entire Lost Lake camp were really cool characters.
Now for the biggest thing we learned at the end. Freakers becoming smarter had me hyped for the next game. It was truly a crazy cliffhanger to end the game on. It also made me rethink Deacon's feats durring the game.
What Deacon did durring the game is simply super human. Him taking on hundreds of hordes and guys alone makes me think he is infected and might turn in the future. I have a feeling those Nero injectors are injectors made to turn people into the "smarter and superior" freakers which is why O'Brien and most Nero officers have turned into these freakers.
Hope the wait for DG2 isn't long!
Now as for the story, I really enjoyed it despite the janky way it was structured. Deacon and Boozer and the entire Lost Lake camp were really cool characters.
Now for the biggest thing we learned at the end. Freakers becoming smarter had me hyped for the next game. It was truly a crazy cliffhanger to end the game on. It also made me rethink Deacon's feats durring the game.
What Deacon did durring the game is simply super human. Him taking on hundreds of hordes and guys alone makes me think he is infected and might turn in the future. I have a feeling those Nero injectors are injectors made to turn people into the "smarter and superior" freakers which is why O'Brien and most Nero officers have turned into these freakers.
Hope the wait for DG2 isn't long!
yep. it was so odd seeing them act like strangers, but like most things in the game, the writing is smarter than you think and it starts to make sense when you think about it for a bit and as the characters begin to grow organically.
its shocking to see the gamespot reviewer complain about the writing in her review for like 15 minutes because to me, the story is the best thing the game has going for it. they even contextualized the ride me like your bike line in a very funny way, and yet the reviewer ignored that altogether and used that as an example to talk about how poor the writing it. i find that very disinengeous.
holy shit. i never thought about it like that. thats a kojima level twist. i seriously loved the ending with O'brien. so hype. Deacon's reaction was great too. The actor and writers did a great job with his reactions. Initially, there is something off about him and especially how he reacts to things, but it starts to make sense as you get to know the character.
if nothing else, i think it was what gave him the idea for the rape story he fed the colonel...
agreed. aside from the hordes, the freakers were, for the most part, just kinda lumped in with all the other wildlife that you'd encounter while cruising. much less focus on them, & much more focus on human enemies, than i'd expected, for sure...
agreed! lisa's easily the best character in the game. wouldn't mind at all her being the lead in days gone 2 - she sorta reminded me a little of (walking dead) clem :) ...
So watch exactly was that final ending cutscene implying. Like I get O'Brian was infected and obviously still intelligent but had he been that way the entire game? Was it recent? We hear the family member of one of the guys who gets killed freaking out over it so are there entire infected communities? Mostly I wonder why because Deacon could be venturing into I Am Legend territory where he's been murdering potentially intelligent freakers and is basically the boogeyman for them.
Nah thats when he saw the "dog with chain" tattoo on the back of deacon he later told to the colonel.
I am thinking we will see some kind of superior race kind of shit in the next game. The higher ups would be turning everyone they can into superior freakers or something for some kind of agenda. My theory is they got infected by using those Nero injectors without knowing what they really were aside from enhancing their abilities. Deacon is probably on his way to becoming the same kind of freaker as O'Brian due to using those injectors.
It makes perfect sense why he would be the kind of person to take on hundreds of people and hordes solo. Other characters do comment on how mental Deacon is when he goes against hordes or camps alone so I am sure these kinds of feats are simply unheard of and super human for most people. If you remember when Captain Kouri was amazed at what he was witnessing when he saw Deacon taking out the camp or the horde alone, it makes sense because they are militia and they have never seen something like this.
There will be so many crazy shit in the next game that I cannot wait to play it.
Doing post game stuff.
Obrien is infected?!!!!!? I did not see that coming at all.
And what he was saying about "them" coming! Hype for DG2!
Obrien is infected?!!!!!? I did not see that coming at all.
And what he was saying about "them" coming! Hype for DG2!
When Deacon and Sarah return to the lab and she signs in, it tells her it has been 750 days since her last visit but I was 820+ Days Gone by then. Caught my attention and was never addressed again, although I'm not sure if when the game first starts that's the number--and due to a limitation of dialogue recording that's just what they used.
I wouldn't mind DLC where we get to play as the colonel or captain Kouri. It seems like both went through some shit (I mean, the colonel obviously went through a lot of shit to end up like that) before we get to meet them.
Nero stuff is definitely stuff for a sequel, it's just way too big to leave it as DLC.
Nero stuff is definitely stuff for a sequel, it's just way too big to leave it as DLC.
Well everyone is going to have different days when they get to that point
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I am guessing NERO has some type of plan with their Freaker Powers.
Yeah me too it made alot of sense for her personality.
I dont really agreed with that second point he did feel remorse about all of it going by all of it you see how fast they stop cheering .Or when he was taking out those ripper sermons how eh kelp;pt apologizing to Jessie in how he had a part in how he turn out.
Even stuff in the storylines tab was saying how he did not feel good about it.
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