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Dave Chappelle - 8:46 (George Floyd tribute?)
- Thread starter Spinluck
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My grandfather, as a boy, knew old men who'd been born slaves. It really isn't that far away. That's one degree of separation from me.
I think so, yeah. He talks about Beavercreek, which is a suburb of Dayton not too far from where he lives in Yellow Springs.
She's a grifting piece of garbage that doesn't actually care about metoo movement or the issues trans people are facing around the world.
Dave has blindspots and is not right for anything of that stuff, but he's right here.
Oh, absolutely. She ran a liberal website back in 2015 where she referred to Republicans as "batshit crazy". It didn't do well and eventually went away. Then she came back as a conservative that's willing to tell Republicans that they aren't racist and just straight denies reality (she denies that the Southern Strategy is real). She's really the best example of what a grifter is.
The Civil War ended 155 years ago. Two lifetimes. People like to think it happened so long ago when it we're still dealing with racism now.
Dave isn't as good as he once was, but he's as good once as he ever was. This is refreshing to see, especially raw like this, after how fucking awful his new specials have been. I was afraid he'd just joined the crew of old timer comedians bitching about how sensitive young folks are.
If you're on IG the Netflix Is a Joke account has the complete show subbed but cropped for mobile viewing.
"We saw ourselves, as you see yourself"
Powerful statement, fucking brilliant. Thank you for posting this, very painful to watch, Dave knocked it out of the park. Much love.
Powerful statement, fucking brilliant. Thank you for posting this, very painful to watch, Dave knocked it out of the park. Much love.
After him tripling down on transphobia, it is hard for me to ever consider watching anything by him again. His views on us are repugnant and he shouldn't have a platform. Honestly the praise he is getting is really upsetting, like none of that shit ever happened.
As somebody mentioned in the YouTube comments, Dave is hitting a point where his comedy is evolving much like George Carlin's did. He's becoming more and more articulate and passionate with each special, and I can't thank him enough for existing and speaking his mind to all of us with such ferocity and conviction.
Need a longer one. He's very shrewd when it comes to black issues in america. One of the few celebrities that I want to hear from.
She thinks her getting shit on is an acknowledgement of her power. Her "retort" is blindly deflective.
She has said she is able to laugh at herself and has power for making it into the special.
I don't think she gets it. She is not being "made fun of."
So...yeah. I'm very with you here and I'm wondering why, even if what he's saying here is on point, his transphobic bullshit isn't brought up.
this is an odd post coming from someone with a persona 5 avatar considering p studios history with lgbt people in there games.
I didn't like that stuff, I even made a youtube video, now deleted, calling out the worst stuff from P5. I found other things about the story resonant even if the series has had a few turds and missed opportunities like with the gay couple that hits on Ryuji or how Naoto's story resolved with them detransitioning. But we're talking about Dave Chappelle here.
I'm so angry that I'm literally just learning the actual reason for the Chris Dorner killings. Until this day, I only knew he was a "disgruntled former officer."
I had no idea his manifesto clearly pointed out that his actions were retaliation for the LAPD's failings to uphold justice. Wow.
I guess it didn't play well into the media narrative at the time.
I had no idea his manifesto clearly pointed out that his actions were retaliation for the LAPD's failings to uphold justice. Wow.
I guess it didn't play well into the media narrative at the time.
We've had multiple threads blasting Chappelle for his comments in his specials. It certainly isn't not "brought up".
your post says that dave chapelle should not have a platform. why should chapelle specifically not have a platform when both chapelle and p studio have shitty views on similar topics? i just find the lack of consistency coming from you odd
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People have said in the post 'some of his stuff is problematic, but thankfully it's solely about race here'
To that end, wouldn't this special and what it's addressing resonate? Or does it not for you? I'm not trying to make an accusation or diminish your feelings. I just want to understand better.
You don't know me.
Persona 4 helped teach me how to cope with depression, self-hatred, and also how to come out the closet
it was flawed on LGBT issues but it is what I needed at the time.
Dave Chappelle on the other hand, spent almost a third of two of his specials bashing us. It was also pretty recent too. I feel like you are being dismissive of my concerns and I bringing up the irrelevant detail of my avatar.
Before this spirals out of control. Terra, I don't think nsilvias is trying to imply anything about your character. Simply put, you made an exception for P5, because it's something you like. You should be able to understand why people make exception to not want to de-platform Chappelle, because his material is something others like, and find resonant.
Edit: And Chappelle has opened a dialogue for many black children to understand the horrors around them through comedy. So by the same merit, he is flawed, but his commentary back then, like it is now, is deemed necessary.
I was going to say the same. Just echoing this.
It can't be an all or nothing for Chappelle but not for Persona. Atlus hasn't shown a willingness to change either. You can accept that if you want, Terra but I don't think it's fair to make exceptions for them and not Dave. Chappelle helped a lot of minorities, like myself, understand such things without realizing it through comedy. Persona help you. Chappelle helped me.
this is basically what i was going to reply with but you said it better than i would.
Great special. Reminds me of this story that was making the rounds on Twitter last week. It sounds like a lot of this stuff has been on his mind for years.
Yeah, I had a hard time processing it when I learned my Great Grandmother, who was alive until I was maybe 9 or 10, was the daughter of slaves. It's hard to imagine that anyone you've known personally could have that close of a connection with the time.
This was a fantastic read, especially this bit when he had to educate a heckler during his bit and she came back stage apologizing:
Chappelle responds "you're ok. That's all we can ask. Know better, do better. I want to thank YOU for hearing me and listening. That's your role. And now you know. Now you're part of that critical mass we talked about and next time you hear a friend say some ignorant shit like you said, it's your job to correct them and share with them what you learned tonight. THEN, you're no longer part of the problem, you're part of the solution."