"Weaponizing charity" is completely and utterly absurd as a notion.
A) He's donating 100% of his own revenue, not Epics who would still get their cut"Evil" is silly, but let's not be so profoundly naive as to pretend it's anything but a perfectly calculated PR move that they know Epic will never agree with (especially considering a) Epic would stand to lose money if "100% of revenue" was donated, and b) it would settle a precedent for other indie devs to do the same). Still, indie games need all the exposure they can get, this back and forth is quite amusing to watch, and it's sparking a lot of conversation about Epic's practices.
No. And EGS isn't forcing games to be EGS only. Valve assumes costs involved with Steamwork features that, once integrated, make games defacto exclusives. Devs save on cost in exchange for tying their game to Steam. EGS just writes checks instead. Either method echanges financial benefits for exclusivity.
A) He's donating 100% of his own revenue, not Epics who would still get their cut
B) A precedent where a small dev can get on EGS without an exclusivity deal! How is this a bad thing for anyone involved, including Epic?!
"Weaponizing charity" is completely and utterly absurd as a notion.
If we're not careful we'll be entering Charity MAD.and you know what FUCK the musicians who do charity performances
why they gotta hold the venue owners hostage with that shit
'oh but we need the money from the charity performance sales to have money to donate to charity hurr"
if ur gonna donate, just donate, leave others out of it with your militarized assault charity
I find it hard to praise theoretical philatropy conditional on impossible conditions, but I'll gladly donate $1000 to the charity of your choice if you manage to convince me of how admirable that is.
Shhh, to the EGS converts GOG isn't "significant" enough to talk about.I was wondering how this thread got so long, but I see it entered some insane territory. Anyway, people realise Darq is not currently exclusive to Steam, right? It's on gog right now, for example.
Perhaps the only positive development out of the whole EGS fiasco is that more publishers are announcing their games will also release on GOG after the exclusivity is up. Ashen and Sinking City are both GOG-bound now, and I'm actually hoping 505 will do the same for Control, since they don't seem to have a problem with GOG in general.
Do these musicians go to twitter and @ them asking if they are allowed to perform there expecting the audience and followers to cheer for them?and you know what FUCK the musicians who do charity performances
why they gotta hold the venue owners hostage with that shit
'oh but we need the money from the charity performance sales to have money to donate to charity hurr"
if ur gonna donate, just donate, leave others out of it with your militarized assault charity
The more games on GOG the better, it's nice to see those are all coming to GOG. I hope all the EGS exclusive games end up there eventually.Shhh, to the EGS converts GOG isn't "significant" enough to talk about.
Perhaps the only positive development out of the whole EGS fiasco is that more publishers are announcing their games will also release on GOG after the exclusivity is up. Ashen and Sinking City are both GOG-bound now, and I'm actually hoping 505 will do the same for Control, since they don't seem to have a problem with GOG in general.
Why make the deal with Epic ic you don't want the exclusivity? Seems kind of two faced.
"I don't understand anything that's going on and just want to shitpost and insult indie devs"Why make the deal with Epic ic you don't want the exclusivity? Seems kind of two faced.
Randomly hitting keys there?Why make the deal with Epic ic you don't want the exclusivity? Seems kind of two faced.
Pro billionaire. Anti developerWelp, we have our new talking point deflection. Weaponizing Charities. This is going to be an interesting one to see the through line for. Poor Billionaire Timmy. Being provoked by an independent developer.
(Props to the soulless PR people who came up with that. It's catchy. They earned their pay.)
The EGS would lose money if they sell a game and keep their 12% cut? Interesting.A corporation accepting a deal where they would only stand to lose money, from someone that's been publicly critical of them? I would definitely not bet my savings on that. :D
They'd still be taking their 12%........A corporation accepting a deal where they would only stand to lose money, from someone that's been publicly critical of them? I would definitely not bet my savings on that. :D
A corporation accepting a deal where they would only stand to lose money, from someone that's been publicly critical of them? I would definitely not bet my savings on that. :D
A corporation accepting a deal where they would only stand to lose money, from someone that's been publicly critical of them? I would definitely not bet my savings on that. :D
A corporation accepting a deal where they would only stand to lose money, from someone that's been publicly critical of them? I would definitely not bet my savings on that. :D
thankfully venue's dont ask for smaller bands to go exclusive to their locations for a year or kick rocks while letting some Headliners come and go as they please (Money is money after all, but only for SOME bands) and say its all for the good of the little indie bands they love so much who have it so hardDo these musicians go to twitter and @ them asking if they are allowed to perform there expecting the audience and followers to cheer for them?
Do these musicians go to twitter and @ them asking if they are allowed to perform there expecting the audience and followers to cheer for them?
The money that is promised to charity will come from the developer's revenue not Epic's.
Jesus, you guys don't really read what I post, right?
In simpler terms: weaponzing charity=BAD
Donating to charity wihtout using it as a weapon=GOOD.
Got it? Do you disagree with this? Is this okay because it hits a target you don't like? What does that say about you as a person?
that's just me doing that cuz im dumbYou guys should be using record labels in your comparisons, not venues
Wasn't this the the plot of Metal Gear Revengeance?Charity wasn't Just weaponized, it was stolen as a child from a 3rd world country and raised by radicals in a secret blacksite to gain psychic powers to be used against CAPITALISTS
Fair point, assuming that's what he meant (it would be nice if someone asked him to clarify). It would still open the possibility for any other dev to do the same (which, don't get me wrong, would be awesome, but I don't think Epic would count that as a win).
From his tweet:That's not really what "revenue" means. They may have actually meant "profit", or they might have not. It's entirely academic as they're not actually donating anything since it's not happening anyway.
I find it hard to praise theoretical philatropy conditional on impossible conditions, but I'll gladly donate $1000 to the charity of your choice if you manage to convince me of how admirable that is.
His EGS revenue doesn't include Epic's share of the sale, that's not part of "his" revenue, there really is no room to interrupt this as anything other than exactly this!