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Darksiders 3 patch brings two combat options: "Default" and "Classic" (more like previous Darksiders games)
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Huh. That seems like quite the big change to introduce post-launch for a single-player game. I haven't played any of these games (yet) but people must have preferred the classic combat?
I've just finished the game and loved it. I don't really see the need for the combat changes, but it's good that it's an option and not for everyone. This has the best combat in all of the Darksiders games. I'm not sure why anyone would want it to play like the others? The additional checkpoints is a nice addition though.
The way the Nephilim's Respite works is already perfect because it forces you to fight to refill it. Just going to Vulgrim and buying refills seems a bit lame.
I finished on normal difficulty around level 50 so having the cap raised that high must be due to coming DLC? That seems helluva high to me. Even 80 is crazy. Do you level up faster on a higher difficulty?
The way the Nephilim's Respite works is already perfect because it forces you to fight to refill it. Just going to Vulgrim and buying refills seems a bit lame.
I finished on normal difficulty around level 50 so having the cap raised that high must be due to coming DLC? That seems helluva high to me. Even 80 is crazy. Do you level up faster on a higher difficulty?
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Considering that I gave up on the game in the first big boss fight, this is a good thing for me.
Of course, I was never a Dark Souls guy, so it's probably my problem and not the game's fault.
Of course, I was never a Dark Souls guy, so it's probably my problem and not the game's fault.
that's....a weird thing to patch in
I remember people mentioning the combat as one of DS2's highlights
That does sound like a drastic change. I wonder if it makes the game incredibly easy if you can just dodge roll like that. I haven't played this one myself, but it can't be how the devs initially intended to be played so I wonder how game breaking it is.
The combat in this is very specific. Changing how it fundamentally works seems strange. I would've thought it would break it.
I just beat this two days ago. I loved the combat. It was definitely harder than 1 and 2, but in a good, challenging way. I don't think I could recommend classic to anyone. If you want Easy mode, just put it on Easy.
It just and option so I dont see any problems with this.
Its actually quite cool they did this.
Like I said in my previous comment, it's cool it's an option, but it could still break the game if you use it considering how the combat is currently structured.
In many sections the game can swarm you with mobs who can perpetually frame perfect stun lock you, which I would say is probably unintentional on the developer's part. It tries to be both Dark Souls and classic God of War at the same time and the combat and encounters don't really seem to be "balanced" or designed for either, so this seems like a great solution. Overall the game is actually really good.
Eh, it's no more broken than just picking easy difficulty or overlevelling by farming souls in an early area.
Damn, and here I was about to start it for the first time, will wait for impressions on what mode is the best choice to play the game (Never finished either DS1-DS2)
The dev team taking a Souls approach to combat when that's not what Darksiders fans were used to or necessarily wanted was perhaps an ill-thought choice. Trying to shoehorn in a more "classic" control option post launch could be really messy though if the rest of the game isn't adjusted for it.
Awesome! Started the game a couple days ago. 3 hours in probably and find the souls inspiration totally unfitting. Will change to classic asap.
I played a little with the classic controls today. As someone who already considered Darksiders 3 their GOTY, I think the changes actually do improve the combat. It's so much easier to dodge enemy attacks now. It just has a better feel to it, even though it does detract a little from the considered approach the game was originally going for.
I do think making consumables instant use was a step too far though. It should be a seperate option.
I do think making consumables instant use was a step too far though. It should be a seperate option.
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Hmm....might give it a try again after I'm done with The Surge. As someone who loved Darksiders 1 and 2, combat is one of my pet peeves with DS3, it wants to be dark souls-ish but lack of weapon variety and blocking just kills the flow of combat for me. Especially with games like Nioh and The Surge taking what's best of the Soulsbourne genre and making it their own.
I'm glad they are bringing back evade interrupts back cause it's one of the best parts of the Darksiders series combat.
I'm glad they are bringing back evade interrupts back cause it's one of the best parts of the Darksiders series combat.
In a way it's solving a problem with the combat. Using a healing item takes a Dark Souls amount of time while the pace of combat is very often much faster than that. Putting space between yourself and enemies is often ineffective because they move so fast and have attacks with a lot of range.
You're right to be suspicious of this big change not gelling with the rest of the design but honestly the overall design wasnt some impeccable success to begin with. The integration of souls elements was half assed and usually detrimental IMO.
I don't think these changes will compromise the game and may make it more fun for a good number of people.
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It's a shame that all the big patches are coming that late. I know that the game was released only a few weeks ago, but being a short-ish SP game means that most fans will complete it during the first days. I hope next time they simply delay the launch a few months.
I think this is a huge combat buff,animation cancelling,instant use of hp pots and arcane counter i frames. Whoever uses classic mode I think shouls up one step the difficulty
I'm gonna have to reinstall the game to check out the other things they changed but the combat options seem particularly unnecessary. there wasn't really anything wrong with the way it handled combat.
Im sort of interested now considering that I love Darksiders 1 and 2 but would rather eat an entire bag of tide pods than play another dark souls wannabe. Now I'm wondering how it meshes with a game balanced and structured around its 'default' combat. In theory it could be completely seamless.
For anyone interested, it looks like Amazon (US) has the PS4 version Collector's Edition for $100 USD. No discount on the Xbox version. Really tempting, here...
https://www.amazon.com/Darksiders-I...=1545766433&sr=8-4&keywords=darksiders+3&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Darksiders-I...=1545766433&sr=8-4&keywords=darksiders+3&th=1
Good patch, IMO.
Tired of everything trying to imitate Dark Souls and its combat.
The fact that it can just be patched out is clear indicator that they put it in with no meaningful consideration besides chasing a fad/making a bullet point on the box.
Tired of everything trying to imitate Dark Souls and its combat.
The fact that it can just be patched out is clear indicator that they put it in with no meaningful consideration besides chasing a fad/making a bullet point on the box.
So is this game.. Ready to be played yet? I had heard it was a technical nightmare on consoles. I do have an Xbox one X if that helps.
Game is good. I just finished it a couple of days ago. Similar yet different than the previous two entries. It has the best dialogue of the series though imo, but it's more of an action game now with less of a focus on dungeons and puzzles.
The level cap increase is interesting considering there isn't a
The level cap increase is interesting considering there isn't a
new game+ option, which is odd. I thought for sure there would be one.
